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Old 11th June 2007, 03:36   #16
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Hey Uttam,

Great to see the thread...must be an awesome feeling to have earned your own brand new car. (Probably a better feeling than a used one you were considering earlier...)

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I do wish the alloys looked better, however when i asked whether i could change them the guy at shaman told me that fiat has some problem with the size of the 4th nut (or something like that) and that if you change the alloys, that 4th nut never fits properly and that's risky if you ever drive at high speeds - dunno how much of this is true, but what the hey... the stock alloys grow on you.
The size of the 4th nut...hmm..
Well, if i am it interpreting correctly the guy is right, although he has conveyed his message in a strange way.
The thing is that fiats have a fairly unique PCD of 98mm, whereas a LOT of other cars have a 100mm PCD. This means that most of the alloys in the market are 100mm and they can fit onto the fiats, but they will NOT be a perfect fit.
See this thread on the same problem.
However, if you did get 98mm pcd wheels there would not be a problem with the "4th nut"

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Even I hope for the same.One thing though, that car did not have a disconnected odo or speedo, and that car had done 700 odd kms when I test drove it.Plus it had a few scratches here and there.Not that its difficult to doctor the odometer before delivery, but lets just hope that isn't the case.
@Uttamc, did you notice the black TD car while taking delivery of your car from Shaman auto?
Hahaha... i can see him losing sleep already.

Looking forward to some good day pics....i have never really seen a palio stile besides the pics you showed me earlier!

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Old 11th June 2007, 07:42   #17
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Try and find out if they have the old black TD car.

Running in period is mentioned on pg 112 of your service manual under the heading oil consumption. It stretches to about 5000km if you have good roads to occasionally rip your car after 1000km. In my case the running in period was about 9800km after which the car became ultra smooth and fuel efficiency in bumper to bumper traffic with AC on all the time rose to 9.8 to 10.4km/liter.
Bye and wear your seat belts.
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Old 11th June 2007, 10:10   #18
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congrats man. you now own the best hatche in the country. Just take care of the runningin period. I know its quite difficult but its good to take care of her during her initial days. And dont worry about the Fuel indicator. It usually falls real fast for the first half and would then become more slower. You would get a minimum of 10km in city with full AC GUARANTEED.

Enjoy your car and drive safe.
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Yup guys, i test drove the same black one before i bought this - and the test drive car was still in the showroom when i got delivery of mine. It had done about 1200 then...

I did think my car had done a lil too much on the odo when i got it, had done 108 km!!!! But no scratches or anything. So i doubt they'd have given it out for test drives (never underestimate the power of denial).

In other news i got an ICE hooked up yday - a pioneer in dash cd / mp3 head unit with 5 inch 2 way blaupunkts in front and 6 X 9 blaupunkts at the back. Really good quality sound now!!
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Will give FE figures after a few days. I run the car on HP's Power. I still gotta decide on a fuel - i think i may switch to IOC Xtramile as the manual says i gotta use over 88 octane .....
Dude IOC Xtramile is DIESEL, make sure you go for IOC Premium...
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Welcome to the world of HOT Hatches....only 1 in India and that's the Stile1.6 Sport!

Hi!

Wlecome to the world of FIAT Cars...Enjoy the HOT HATCH!

I have an Adventure and I get invariably between 9-9.5 with 100% a/c on in Mumbai city. So, sensible driving (Actually difficult with the hot hatch), should get you about 10kmpl with 100% a/c on! You shouldn't be sad at all if you get more than 9....Let me give you a comparison, all in Mumbai city with 100% a/c (This is post feedback from the owners). You car has a kerb weight of 1060kgs and a power of 100BHP @ 5500 RPM

1. Hyundai Accent 1.5 gives you around 8.5 - 9.5 ( Kerb Weight 1014kgs, Max power 95BHP @ 5500 RPM)
2. The new Verna gives you around 9 (Kerb Weight 1152kgs, Max power 103BHP @ 5500 RPM)
3. The Baleno 1.5 (93 BHP) power gave 10-11
4. The Ford 1.6 gave 8-9 and the IKON Flair with 778kg of Kerb weight and 70BHP @ 5500 RPM gives between 9-10 kmpl
5. Honda City VTEC gives 10-11 (Kerb Weight 1065kgs, Max Power 100BHP @ 5800 RPM)
6. The Hyundai Getz 1.3 prime gives between 9.5 -11 (Kerb Weight 1033 kgs, Max power 83BHP @ 5500 RPM)
7. The Ford Fiesta 1.6 gives 9 -10 (Kerb Weight 1130kg, Max power 101 BHP @ 6500 RPM)

So, why the comparison??? I don't understand! Hence, don't bother and enjoy the beauty!
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Dude IOC Xtramile is DIESEL, make sure you go for IOC Premium...
OOps, my bad. I meant the petrol one.
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Congratulations. The first Stile 1.6 on the forum I guess? Take care of her and she will take care of you. Also, dude, posting a review without photos is a criminal offense. Especially if we are talking of a hot hatch.
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Indeed the first Stile 1.6 review!! Congratulations!!

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you do a very comfortable 90 in 5th gear at 2000 rpm.
That is rather a loooong gearing. Would you please check and confirm this? One of the fun part old Palio 1.6 was the shorter gearing. Have things changed?
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Indeed the first Stile 1.6 review!! Congratulations!!



That is rather a loooong gearing. Would you please check and confirm this? One of the fun part old Palio 1.6 was the shorter gearing. Have things changed?
Yeah, i did check this again after posting it first - it was 80 at 2000 rpm in 5th gear, i got carried away
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Congratulations. The first Stile 1.6 on the forum I guess? Take care of her and she will take care of you. Also, dude, posting a review without photos is a criminal offense. Especially if we are talking of a hot hatch.

Okay guys, here are the first few pics - they were taken at night and since it was a sunday, the car wasn't washed - do look out for day pics tomorrow.





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Hey....post some more photos, taken in the day time. Suggested postures of the black beauty are

1. Side View
2. Back view (We want to see how it looks with the spoilers)
3. Daytime front view
4. Interiors (Dash board)
5. Seats

Please....post these photos!
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Very nice I must say. She looks really good.
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Since this is my first attempt at a review, im sure you guys would have a lot of questions that are left unanswered, so please go ahead and start asking.
With pleasure!

What was the on-road price? Any offers thrown in by the dealer?
Any sort of waiting period?
Since you have mentioned that you upgraded from a WagonR, how is the ride comfort?

Congrats on the new car! Wish i could upgrade from the wagonR too...
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With pleasure!

What was the on-road price? Any offers thrown in by the dealer?
Any sort of waiting period?
Since you have mentioned that you upgraded from a WagonR, how is the ride comfort?

Congrats on the new car! Wish i could upgrade from the wagonR too...

Well, im lost with the on road price now - cuz i got financing. So basically, i paid 1.08 lakhs up front and got financing of 4.03 lakhs at 11.25% reducing. The rate of interest was basically where i did most of my negotiation, the down payment was registration, insurance etc. The down payment also included a loan processing fee etc, which is why its slightly over the total price of the car.

They started off with 14.5 % for the loan, and after many quotes from diff companies etc, it came down a relatively large amount.

Accessories thrown in were just mud flaps and "special" rubber matting (i am yet to figure out what's so special about it).

The comparison with WagonR is quite apparent. The first thing you notice is a lot more power and the way this car hugs the road! With a wagonr, as it's a tallboy had a tendency to throw you around while cornering, that is virtually missing in this car. The suspension is a lot stiffer as well (that along with the fact that the car has 14 inch wheels) results in a far smoother drive.

Interiors.... well the car doesn't have that much headroom, but a lot more side space. 3 people would be far comfier in the back here (i haven't tried it as yet - the seats just seem larger). THe boot space is virtually non-existant in this car LOL!

Overall drive quality... well, I drove the car for about 8 hours yesterday (don't ask why) and i wasn't tired one bit... maybe cuz she's still new, maybe cuz its just fantastic over long drives - maybe both... only time till tell.

Finally, i booked the car the previous Monday (27th May) and got it on friday 8th June. So that's about 2 days from giving your first cheque to getting the car. I did notice that Shaman guys behave like idiots n slow down after they get their first cheque, but a little bit of sarcasm and letting them know that you haven't paid them the complete amount seems to get your point across.. and helps speed things up.

The only pain in the A$$ was during delivery - i was there for 3 hours - extremely inefficient and not to mention they went n changed my name on all the paperwork - gave me a middle name that doesn't belong to anyone in my family!!?!?!?!?!

Anyway, they're reworking all the papers n car registration n giving it to me in a couple of days. I suppose this is the downer for fiat, but hey, the car still rocks and i dont have to spend all my life with Shaman (i hope).

If any of you guys want a good deal from Shaman, please don't hesitate to contact me as i've learnt a couple of tricks now.

I also saw an ad for the Palio at 4% interest in todays paper (DNA or Bombaytimes). However i don't think this will be 4% reducing... no harm in checking it out anyway.
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