The Definitive comparision: Punto 1.3 MJD VS I 20 1.4 CRDi VS Ritz 1.3 DDiS

harry10 · 21st July 2009, 14:54

Excellent review.
When you started it yesterday i was online but was waiting for it to finish.
I wont comment on ratings or final verdict.
Everyone can purchase what suits them better in terms of mind,heart and money.
Cheers!

ajaysurfs · 21st July 2009, 14:58

Excellent comparative report. More than sufficient for an average Joe!

Smooth Sailing · 21st July 2009, 15:03

Sid, this is a fantabulously compiled and presented review. One can only imagine the amount of effort and time you would have spent in penning it down. Hats of to you! NOW the decision making becomes all the more easier for ME

when it comes to a TOSS UP between the Fiat Grande Punto E Pk and the i20 Asta! Really sid, thanks a TON.

d_payne · 21st July 2009, 15:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by live2drive

Very informative comparison.

Payne, this comparison is between diesel hatches, so Jazz does not qualify here. And if at all Jazz is launched in diesel, it would be priced close to 10L OTR.

I meant the Jazz would win in a lot of battles, not this comparo necessarily. I was highlighting the fact that the Jazz is a great product in isolation but noone reviews anything in isolation, there is always a price-tag involved since it is a purchase at the end of the day. The Jazz seemed an appropriate example since it is lambasted by everyone as being over-priced.

I did not mean the Jazz needs to be in this comparo.

Cheers!
Payne

wildon · 21st July 2009, 15:20

I couldn't agree with the verdict as each section having its rating and i20 leads overall, and the final verdict "Punto" how come? Then whats the use of giving points to each section !

Its like saying , The Total marks is 50 and you have 5 section in that, each section carries 10 marks and you have scored 10 marks on each section, but the final result - "You have failed in the exam"

Technocrat · 21st July 2009, 15:30

That's one Exhaustive & an Excellent Review Sid. Marked this thread 5 *

pmbabu · 21st July 2009, 15:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by wildon

I couldn't agree with the verdict as each section having its rating and i20 leads overall, and the final verdict "Punto" how come? Then whats the use of giving points to each section !

Its like saying , The Total marks is 50 and you have 5 section in that, each section carries 10 marks and you have scored 10 marks on each section, but the final result - "You have failed in the exam"

You see, the final verdict is the only reason this review hasn't crossed several pages yet. Pun intended guys ;-)

The review itself is a humongous effort and kudos to Sid!

sandeepmdas · 21st July 2009, 15:40

Fantastic effort there Sid...

Maybe you should have put the waiting period etc also into consideration.

The pix were terrific so much so I noticed trivial things like Punto's fuel lid is in the driver's side and the Speedo is left-aligned within the cluster. Its Tacho has no redline(!), whereas the Ritz redlines at 5K.

amoghchaphalkar · 21st July 2009, 15:50

Sid !!

Hats off to you. I am not commenting here because you declared Punto the winner and I own one.

I am saluting your efforts, dedication and enthusiasm to compile and share with us a report of such high quality.

Keep up the good work.

Amogh

coolboy007 · 21st July 2009, 16:51

Sid,

I think that i20 and Punto diesel are tied up if one is not better than the other. Both cars are so good. Kudos man, awesome review. Great, so much of time and hardwork which goes into writing such big reviews,
"Bas Apne dil ki Suno

", keep writing such reviews.

If i were to go for Petrol hatch, then definitely Punto 1.4 but if Diesel, i20 Crdi will make life tougher whether to go for Punto 1.3 or i20 1.4

sriramv.iyer · 21st July 2009, 17:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by phamilyman

You should've compared Punto EP+P

ie EPack + Pete's.

THAT would've won it comfortably

Jokes apart. Simply awesome

You can Pete a 1.4 CRDi too! (if not immediately, few months down the line :-) )

Ajay_J · 21st July 2009, 18:05

Fiat Grande Punto
What works:

best build quality

What needs work:

low rent interior plastics with poorly designed storage spaces
interior parts falling off

Hey Sid
Great work. Though I found one contradiction here. Can best build quality go hand in hand with parts falling off and low quality interiors ?
I observed that swift is perceived by many as "poorly build" due to some minor rattles coming from window assembly/dash board.

nkrishnap · 21st July 2009, 18:56

Fantastic Review there Sid!

Price plays a part in the car buyer's decision making.

However the above statement does not hold good against the straight H. No offenses to anyone, I somehow get the predictions wrong with respect to straight H when it comes to sales with respect to the pricing. Huh. Strictly my opinion.

NFS2024 · 21st July 2009, 20:04

If price is considered as a secondary factor in this comparison, then i20 should be the winner. Not sure what the logic here is for proclaiming GP as the winner.

sidindica · 21st July 2009, 20:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ram_NP

I am tempted to know, which one of these you will choose personally, if price is not a factor.

of course, any 1 of these two.

21st July 2009, 14:54	#46
harry10 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Faridabad/Delhi Posts: 2,713 Thanked: 3,627 Times View My Garage	Excellent review. When you started it yesterday i was online but was waiting for it to finish. I wont comment on ratings or final verdict. Everyone can purchase what suits them better in terms of mind,heart and money. Cheers!
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21st July 2009, 14:58	#47
ajaysurfs BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 52 Thanked: Once	Excellent comparative report. More than sufficient for an average Joe!
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21st July 2009, 15:03	#48
Smooth Sailing BHPian Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Chennai Posts: 39 Thanked: Once	Sid, this is a fantabulously compiled and presented review. One can only imagine the amount of effort and time you would have spent in penning it down. Hats of to you! NOW the decision making becomes all the more easier for ME when it comes to a TOSS UP between the Fiat Grande Punto E Pk and the i20 Asta! Really sid, thanks a TON.
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21st July 2009, 15:20	#50
wildon BANNED Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 2,440 Thanked: 1,235 Times View My Garage	I couldn't agree with the verdict as each section having its rating and i20 leads overall, and the final verdict "Punto" how come? Then whats the use of giving points to each section ! Its like saying , The Total marks is 50 and you have 5 section in that, each section carries 10 marks and you have scored 10 marks on each section, but the final result - "You have failed in the exam" Last edited by wildon : 21st July 2009 at 15:26.
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21st July 2009, 15:30	#51
Technocrat Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: GTA Posts: 14,813 Thanked: 2,700 Times	That's one Exhaustive & an Excellent Review Sid. Marked this thread 5 *
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21st July 2009, 15:40	#53
sandeepmdas Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Varkala Posts: 1,539 Thanked: 2,492 Times	Fantastic effort there Sid... Maybe you should have put the waiting period etc also into consideration. The pix were terrific so much so I noticed trivial things like Punto's fuel lid is in the driver's side and the Speedo is left-aligned within the cluster. Its Tacho has no redline(!), whereas the Ritz redlines at 5K. Last edited by sandeepmdas : 21st July 2009 at 15:42.
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21st July 2009, 15:50	#54
amoghchaphalkar BHPian Join Date: May 2009 Location: Pune Posts: 636 Thanked: 703 Times	Sid !! Hats off to you. I am not commenting here because you declared Punto the winner and I own one. I am saluting your efforts, dedication and enthusiasm to compile and share with us a report of such high quality. Keep up the good work. Amogh
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21st July 2009, 16:51	#55
coolboy007 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: New Delhi Posts: 1,852 Thanked: 2,137 Times	Sid, I think that i20 and Punto diesel are tied up if one is not better than the other. Both cars are so good. Kudos man, awesome review. Great, so much of time and hardwork which goes into writing such big reviews, "Bas Apne dil ki Suno", keep writing such reviews. If i were to go for Petrol hatch, then definitely Punto 1.4 but if Diesel, i20 Crdi will make life tougher whether to go for Punto 1.3 or i20 1.4
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21st July 2009, 18:05	#57
Ajay_J BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 360 Thanked: 0 Times	Fiat Grande Punto What works: best build quality What needs work: low rent interior plastics with poorly designed storage spaces interior parts falling off Hey Sid Great work. Though I found one contradiction here. Can best build quality go hand in hand with parts falling off and low quality interiors ? I observed that swift is perceived by many as "poorly build" due to some minor rattles coming from window assembly/dash board.
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21st July 2009, 18:56	#58
nkrishnap Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 3,983 Thanked: 7,407 Times View My Garage	Fantastic Review there Sid! Price plays a part in the car buyer's decision making. However the above statement does not hold good against the straight H. No offenses to anyone, I somehow get the predictions wrong with respect to straight H when it comes to sales with respect to the pricing. Huh. Strictly my opinion.
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21st July 2009, 20:04	#59
NFS2024 BHPian Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Bangalore Posts: 840 Thanked: 444 Times	If price is considered as a secondary factor in this comparison, then i20 should be the winner. Not sure what the logic here is for proclaiming GP as the winner.
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