[Warwithwheels]

Originally Posted by neofromcapone

.....Just wish the car had some more ground clearance

What's the tire pressure you maintain? Keeping 38 in the rear and 34 in the front helps a lot.

[Sheel]

Originally Posted by neofromcapone

But every time a bumper appears, my reflex is to slow down and worry about scraping the car.

See if this thread helps you.
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/techni...ing-belly.html
I am yet to scrape the Car on a breaker, though have in pot-holes under load.

[pious_devil]

Originally Posted by Warwithwheels

What's the tire pressure you maintain? Keeping 38 in the rear and 34 in the front helps a lot.

On unladen I maintain 32, while if loaded I keep it at 36 in front and 41 at the rear as recommended. With this setting I am yet to scrap the belly not only in Bangalore but also even in the Mysore Bangalore highway which is notorious for speed breakers which aren't so visible during night driving... Though mine is May'2012 model with new suspension settings I guess .

[Mik]

Today i took the test drive of the Ford Figo (both petrol and diesel) along with 10 other vehicles! (12 hours on the road in different parts of Gurgaon - incredible sunday it was )
I am sold on the addictive handling of the Figo and have almost decided on buying it. Just have a few questions
1. What would be the average mileage of the Petrol version.
2. I thought the petrol was a tad underpowered compared to the diesel. Can the figo petrol cruise at something like 120 all day without straining.Also, what would be the top speed.
3. Lastly, any advice on what makes sense - diesel or petrol.
This is going to be with me for something like 5 years. I am a biker primarily and car is just a weekend thing for me. Did only 16k on my estilo over the last 2 years. The petrol titanium is 5.2 on road and the diesel is 6.6.
My requirement , in that order.
Fun To Drive
Acceleration
Mileage
Cost of ownership.

[KiloAlpha]

Originally Posted by Mik

1. What would be the average mileage of the Petrol version.
2. I thought the petrol was a tad underpowered compared to the diesel. Can the figo petrol cruise at something like 120 all day without straining.Also, what would be the top speed.
3. Lastly, any advice on what makes sense - diesel or petrol.
This is going to be with me for something like 5 years. I am a biker primarily and car is just a weekend thing for me. Did only 16k on my estilo over the last 2 years. The petrol titanium is 5.2 on road and the diesel is 6.6.
My requirement , in that order.
Fun To Drive
Acceleration
Mileage
Cost of ownership.

1. I have owned a petrol Figo from the past 2 years. In the city, it has given me around 11-12 consistently.
2. I can affirm to the fact that Figo petrol is indeed "underpowered". However, it can cruise all day long at 100-120kmph. More importantly, it makes the driver feel comfortable cruising 120kmph.
3. If your running is anything over 800km per month, buy diesel.

Petrol Figo will give you Fun to Drive. No acceleration. So-so mileage. Average cost of ownership.

[jayded]

Originally Posted by Mik

1. What would be the average mileage of the Petrol version.
2. I thought the petrol was a tad underpowered compared to the diesel. Can the figo petrol cruise at something like 120 all day without straining.Also, what would be the top speed.
3. Lastly, any advice on what makes sense - diesel or petrol.
This is going to be with me for something like 5 years. I am a biker primarily and car is just a weekend thing for me. Did only 16k on my estilo over the last 2 years. The petrol titanium is 5.2 on road and the diesel is 6.6.
My requirement , in that order.
Fun To Drive
Acceleration
Mileage
Cost of ownership.

My opinions
1) Figo petrol version is not actually known for it's fuel efficiency, you can expect 10-12 kmpl with AC in city.
2) I drove a Figo P for a week and was not impressed compared to the TDCi that I own, the engine had to be revved to extract power and the overtaking manoeuvres had to be much more calculated than in the TDCi where you can just throttle and zip past the vehicle. The chassis begs for some more power. Top speed should be around 160 kmph on a level stretch.
3) The Petrol vs. Diesel war should be fought right inside your head since you are the best judge. Just do the maths and see which one fits your bill. Petrol prices are bound northwards anyways and diesel prices might also rise albeit slower than petrol.

Lastly just suggesting based on your priority list:
Fun To Drive: Figo TDCi
Acceleration: Figo TDCi
Mileage: Figo TDCi
Cost of ownership: Figo P

[Mik]

Thanks for the detailed responses.
I came away from the showroom thinking that the petrol is a VFM buy. Now, things seem to be tilting towards the TDCI . The price diff is around 1.4 lakhs!
The Fiesta 1.6 Lxi was approximately 5.8 on road. This prompted me to TD it too. While the power and the orgasmic hum of the 1.6 was beautiful, i somehow felt that it wasnt exactly that well settled. Subconsciously i was comparing it with the Baleno i guess.
On topic: My usage doesnt really warrant a diesel. However, like in case of the micra, the diesel is more FTD.

[Parthasarathig]

Originally Posted by Mik

Thanks for the detailed responses.
I came away from the showroom thinking that the petrol is a VFM buy. Now, things seem to be tilting towards the TDCI . The price diff is around 1.4 lakhs!

On topic: My usage doesnt really warrant a diesel. However, like in case of the micra, the diesel is more FTD.

Even if you buy the diesel your running isnt that much that you can reap the benefits of cheaper diesel per litre of petrol. And you will probably sell off that car in a few years i guess when you decide to upgrade. So hardly makes sense getting a diesel. The added torque may give you some edge while overtaking. But it hardly matters.

I cant see your location as im using the phone app. But ive been using the petrol since October 2010 in Bangalore and have done 15000+kms with around 10,000 kms being covered in the last year itself. Ive not felt the petrol to be underpowered enough to make me slow on the roads. If you make interstate trips on weekends or travel over 300kms in a day per trip then diesel is justified. If you use it only to travel within the city for 10 20kms per day max then I feel the 1.4lakh premium on diesel is just wasted.
Plus the diesel has a higher cost of maintenance per service than the petrol version.
If you are comfortable with
A. 1.4lakh premium
B. High service cost
C. Diesel clatter
Then buy the diesel. Else you should buy the petrol.

Most of the cars in the showroom are hardly well maintained and ripped by customers from their very first day. Id suggest you TD a well maintained petrol. And you can cruise all day in triple digit speeds too. 100 to 120 it can cruise with efficient mileage(ive got upto 17.37kmpl). After that revs increase and your mileage figures are tossed out the window(as low as 10kmpl). You can comfortably do speeds in excess of 160kmph speedo indicated. But cruising at 100 to 120 feels much more comfortable and safer on our Indian roads. The figo feels planted and corners hard too on the twisties.

Besides the petrol is fun at red light drag races. Quick to launch of the line by the time the turbo of the diesel starts to rotate. If you shift quick you can easily beat the diesel hatch or sedan next to you unless its a civic or higher end car.

Cheers. !!

[M5_fan]

Originally Posted by Mik

Today i took the test drive of the Ford Figo (both petrol and diesel) along with 10 other vehicles! (12 hours on the road in different parts of Gurgaon - incredible sunday it was )
I am sold on the addictive handling of the Figo and have almost decided on buying it. Just have a few questions
1. What would be the average mileage of the Petrol version.
2. I thought the petrol was a tad underpowered compared to the diesel. Can the figo petrol cruise at something like 120 all day without straining.Also, what would be the top speed.
3. Lastly, any advice on what makes sense - diesel or petrol.
This is going to be with me for something like 5 years. I am a biker primarily and car is just a weekend thing for me. Did only 16k on my estilo over the last 2 years. The petrol titanium is 5.2 on road and the diesel is 6.6.
My requirement , in that order.
Fun To Drive
Acceleration
Mileage
Cost of ownership.

The figo petrol is more fun to drive, it has decent mileage of around 12 kmph, acceleration is pretty good but not jaw dropping like in a fiesta 1.6, cost of ownership is very less and in fact it is industry best (for both petrol and diesel).

I would say that you save the money and go for the petrol car. Average service costs is around 2200 for the petrol and around 2800 for the diesel.

[Sheel]

Originally Posted by jayded

2) I drove a Figo P for a week and was not impressed compared to the TDCi that I own, the engine had to be revved to extract power and the overtaking manoeuvres had to be much more calculated than in the TDCi where you can just throttle and zip past the vehicle.

That is turbo spooling making life easy for you.

Has its share of +ves and -ves. You can't red-line a TDCi, but very well can an engine with direct injection. Precisely why most Super Cars with hallowed badges still rule out turbos. Though out on road, turbo rules and I personally would prefer to drive a diesel on our roads rather than a petrol. You got to rev it to get it moving. Occupants always feel, you are driving fast & trying to race someone...

Originally Posted by Mik

The Fiesta 1.6 Lxi was approximately 5.8 on road. This prompted me to TD it too. While the power and the orgasmic hum of the 1.6 was beautiful,

Buy the Fiesta 1.6 if you can. The FE figs won't be that much off from Figo 1.2 and you will get a lot more fun.

Maybe the TD Car had super-inflated tires.

Originally Posted by M5_fan

The figo petrol is more fun to drive,

Than its diesel counterpart? Sorry, but I do not agree

it has decent mileage of around 12 kmph,

I am sure you meant 12kmpl

[M5_fan]

Originally Posted by Sheel

Buy the Fiesta 1.6 if you can. The FE figs won't be that much off from Figo 1.2 and you will get a lot more fun.

Maybe the TD Car had super-inflated tires.

Than its diesel counterpart? Sorry, but I do not agree

I am sure you meant 12kmpl

I agree the fiesta 1.6 is great. I happen to own one.

The figo 1.2 is more fun to drive than the 1.4 tdci as you can rev it higher, it is also fairly linear down the rev range, the car feels lighter and there is much less understeer than the tdci.

I drove them back to back on a makeshift tight test track at an event in a gurgaon hotel.

Yes the FE of figo petrol is not much different than a fiesta 1.6. So it makes sense to buy a 1.6 fiesta if one can stretch their budget.

[Mik]

Originally Posted by M5_fan

I agree the fiesta 1.6 is great. I happen to own one.

The figo 1.2 is more fun to drive than the 1.4 tdci as you can rev it higher, it is also fairly linear down the rev range, the car feels lighter and there is much less understeer than the tdci.

I drove them back to back on a makeshift tight test track at an event in a gurgaon hotel.

Yes the FE of figo petrol is not much different than a fiesta 1.6. So it makes sense to buy a 1.6 fiesta if one can stretch their budget.

In my budget - only the Lxi is available and its barebones. Fine by me but wifey is an unwilling participant :(
She has a thing for the christmas tree arrangement of tail lights in the Figo - her reason for liking the Figo
On a serious note - ABS is my only must-have requirement and the Fiesta 1.6 Lxi doesn't have it. I think i will go for an exhaustive TD again for both the petrol and diesel Figo. My break even point seems to be 9k km/year over 5 years.
Factors considered -
Initial price difference (1.4 lakhs + approx 30k for interest for my loan)
Slightly higher service cost. (2800 vs 2200)
Maintenance (giving 10k diff over 5 years for the figo diesel)
Resale after 5 yrs (I am taking a difference of 1.1 lakhs after 5 years - based on the Swift VDI/VXI trend on carwale)
and mileage ofcourse (11/15 on Petrol and 15/18 on the diesel)
I have presumed that if i buy the diesel - i will take the car out more (approximately 1.5k km more per year)

Analysis paralysis- here i come.

[tharian]

Originally Posted by Mik

The Fiesta 1.6 Lxi was approximately 5.8 on road. This prompted me to TD it too. While the power and the orgasmic hum of the 1.6 was beautiful, i somehow felt that it wasnt exactly that well settled. Subconsciously i was comparing it with the Baleno i guess.
On topic: My usage doesnt really warrant a diesel. However, like in case of the micra, the diesel is more FTD.

If the 1.6 is just 60k above the top end Figo, that would be a better buy purely based on the huge power difference and then space. But again, one is the top end and one is the low end version which you will need to decide on.
If I were you, I would go for the 1.6 lxi and fit accessories what is required for me later.
The 1.2 is a fun car to drive but like everyone mentioned, sadly underpowered. You can cruise at 120kmh , however at those speeds with a/c, the engine is spinning around 3300 rpm which eats into the mileage.
When you can get the same mileage and same speeds at much lowes revvs on a 1.6, and a reasonable budget increase, it makes more sense.(atleast for me)

Just happened to see your last post after posting mine.
The Christmas tree tail lamps- sadly out of the 5 slots on one side, only 3 have bulbs. So it actually doesnt look like one unless you retro fit bulbs which is quite easy.
Since the 1.6 is out of contention, among the 1.2 and 1,4 Figo, purely depends on how much you are going to use the car.
Like you, I mainly use my bikes to work and other places and use the car(1.2 Figo) only for weekends and rainy days which makes total sense to me.

On a +ve note, I have done many long distances and run close to 18k kms in 2 years and enjoyed every bit of. No issues with the car, no complaints and fun to drive and a good looker in my book. Except of course for the underpowered engine for which I have added steroids and made it much better with CAI and FFE fitted.
Yes, I may have used it more if it were a diesel , but I would have regretted it since I am biker and would have missed biking around and also missed revving the 1.2 which is any day fun.
Hope I did not confuse you more!

[gemithomas]

Originally Posted by rohing

Looks like it is time for you to get a tuning box . If only they were not so expensive - sigh!

I found one that was not so expensive. The remap would be done at your place at a reasonable price.

Welcome to Tune-O-Tronics the mobile ecu remapping service, ecu tuning, remaps, performance, economy, fuel, cars.

PM me if you are interested and in case you need any help

Originally Posted by jayded

Seems like you went the remap/box way. Mind sharing the details. Any improvement in top end performance and top speeds?

The car pulls much more smoothly and does not easily run out of breath. I can reach the 100 mark much more easily and could stay there without much effort, I particularly wanted better overtaking capabilities and i have got that now.

[KiloAlpha]

Originally Posted by Mik

Analysis paralysis- here i come.

I would suggest you buy the diesel. The Ford 1.4 TDCi unit is well regarded and respected in the marketplace. 5 years down the line, it will hold its value. The market has given a thumbs-down to the petrol Figo, so resale value will be hit very hard.