Maruti Suzuki Swift : Tyre & wheel upgrade thread

adityarath · 4th October 2010, 21:57

Guys planning to replace all four tyres on my 2005 Swift Zxi - which one - conti / yoko / michi / bs ???

please suggest - daily run of nearly 100 kms all across the mumbai ...

Nikhilb2008 · 7th October 2010, 17:47

Go for whichever you like. There is not much to choose between them.

deepakchiniwal · 7th October 2010, 18:21

Hi Nikhil,

Nice to see you back on the forum.
I have a Dzire VDi, looking to change the tyres, since last few months wanted to change, lack of funds has dragged it further and looks like it should happen sooner now. I am stuck between
Conti CPC2, XM1+, A Drives and Apollo Accelere

My preference would be Comfort, good breaking and long lasting.
Can you suggest which one and merits over others in 185/70/14 profile.

Read through few complaints on Side wall being soft on A Drives and XM1+.

My drive is mostly in Bangalore and occasional trips (1-2 in two months) on good/bad/worse roads.

Checked few shops and got a quote of 4050 per tire (3310 is the manufacturing date). Is this reasonable or can the offer get better @ your shop

Appreciate your time!

noopster · 7th October 2010, 19:05

@deepak, My 185/70 R14 A-drives cost me 14,000 for set of 4 in Mumbai (dealer quoted 3560 each). Michelin XM1+ were 4200 each (quoted price didn't negotiate). The A-drives are pretty good, a little prone to tramlining, but if you don't mind paying the extra, go for the Michelins. They are supposed to be the best!

nitinkhemani · 20th October 2010, 16:07

Hello Team,

I'm aware that I'm initiating a new thread for a topic which has already been discussed multiple times over, I just have one small query to be clarified.

Swift Dzire VDi comes with Stock 165/80R14 tires, want to upgrade them as I get delivery of the vehicle & am planning to get one of the two options mentioned below:

Michelin XM1+ 185/70R14
Though this has been recommended as the ideal upgrade, as per one of the online tire size calculators this option reduces the overall diameter of the tire by 5 mm or 0.81%

Michelin XM1+ 195/70R14
This on the other hand this option increases the overall diameter by 9 mm or 1.45%, I guess this would also increase the ground clearance by a few mm?

The query I have is, would the 195/70/R14 tire fit the stock steel rim on the dzire & is it recommended as my usage is going to be equal amounts of city / highway runs? I'm looking at a more comfortable ride with good road grip & handling with limited / no loss in FE.

Kindly suggest.

Thanks,

Nitin

gauravdgr8 · 20th October 2010, 16:33

Friends..have to change tires on my u-va.i did see bridgestone b250 and mrf zec2. Both have t rating. 3200 and 2500 resp. Size 155/80 13. What other tyres should i look for? Travel is mostly city and occasional long drives.

noopster · 20th October 2010, 17:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by nitinkhemani

Swift Dzire VDi comes with Stock 165/80R14 tires, want to upgrade them as I get delivery of the vehicle & am planning to get one of the two options mentioned below:

Michelin XM1+ 185/70R14

Michelin XM1+ 195/70R14

I did a lot of research on this and ended up choosing the 185/70R14s over the 195/60R15s since it was cheaper and I wasn't sure if 15 inchers would affect the ride quality. Not sure about 195/70R14- in fact I never came across that size when researching.

You really can't go wrong with the 185/70R14s. A lot of us here have gone that way and are happy.

nitinkhemani · 20th October 2010, 23:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by noopster

I did a lot of research on this and ended up choosing the 185/70R14s over the 195/60R15s since it was cheaper and I wasn't sure if 15 inchers would affect the ride quality. Not sure about 195/70R14- in fact I never came across that size when researching.

You really can't go wrong with the 185/70R14s. A lot of us here have gone that way and are happy.

I agree that 185/70R14 is the recommended upgrade for the stock tires, but my objective is to gain a slightly higher clearance as well as a good road grip, hence i'm considering the 195/70R14 option. Also, I believe the co-efficient for tire upgrade is taken as 2.5% +/-, please correct if I'm wrong.

As for the size, you shall find it on Michelin India portal.

deepakchiniwal · 21st October 2010, 11:21

@nitinkhemani, I drive a Dzire VDi in Bangalore and I just went in for an Upgrade from the stock JK's 165/80/R14 to Michelin XM1+ 185/70/R14. After driving around with the stock for 20000 Kms, I must confess that the Michelin 185/70/R14 does wonder to the vehicle. I am just repenting why did I not upgrade on Day 1 after I got the vehicle.
Think no twice, 185/70/14 is the right size you should go in for.

gauravdgr8 · 23rd October 2010, 20:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by gauravdgr8

Friends..have to change tires on my u-va.i did see bridgestone b250 and mrf zec2. Both have t rating. 3200 and 2500 resp. Size 155/80 13. What other tyres should i look for? Travel is mostly city and occasional long drives.

So went to check Goodyear DuraPlus at the SR Nagar outlet. Quoted 3k per tyre. My stock tyres are MRF ZVTS. During a recent Raipur-Hyd trip had a puncture wherein the tyre became shape out. I was amazed and morever the car on low speed (20-30) was vibrating a bit. The Goodyear guy said that we will have to change all five tyres with Duraplus and this issue will go away. It sounded a bit illogical so went to MRF MV Tyre World at Ameerpet. Told him the same vibration thingy. Mechanic Reddy got the car up on said that tyre rotation has not been done and therefore some parts on the sidewall grip have become uneven on the inside. He said that we will rotate the tyre, change the sides do the Wheel Alignment, Balancing, change the stepny tyre. He said that this should resolve the vibration as the tyres are good for next 10K kms. Did all of that, got a new MRF ZEC on the stepny and now the car is running all fine.

Seems like seeing a CG registered car, the Goodyear guy wanted to make some quick bucks. Bad Bad Bad.

The mechanic said that drive the car for 500-600 kms and let me know if you face any issues. So tomorrow Nanded is on the agenda. Leaving Hyd at 5 am.

Will update the trip details once back.

hyper-VTEC · 24th October 2010, 12:31

i need to change the tyres for my 30K Kms run, 2007 Swift soon. Tyre size is 195/60/R15.

I am confused between Michelin PPC, CPC2 or something else.

I heard (read) that Michelins are softer and may get damaged easily by the bad Bangalore roads. CPC2 are relatively better and a bit less expensive as well (5300 vs 4700 per piece).

How is Good Year Assurance?

Requirements (in order of importance)
-Comfort/Road Noise
-VFM

Also i am in a sort of limited budget, so would changing only 4 tyres now make sense? I would keep the best of the remaining as stepney.

Please assist.

Nikhilb2008 · 24th October 2010, 15:44

Changing 4 is a good option.

I would suggest you go in for the CPC2 but be prepared for a slightly harder ride than the Michelins. they are more durable though.

However, given that comfort and road noise are your first priorities and VFM is lower down the order, go in for the Michelin Primacy LC.

hyper-VTEC · 25th October 2010, 15:39

thanks Nikhil. You definitely have one more customer added to your list of satisfied customers. Would ping you before i arrange for cash and come to Madhu's.

Any idea on Good Year Assurance. The ride and price?

nitinkhemani · 26th October 2010, 02:40

anyone heard about the Goodyear DuraPlus, how do they perform, handle, etc? I got 165/80R14 as stock on my Dzire today!

sam_sant2005 · 21st November 2010, 08:03

My swift has done 9000 kms by now and Im looking for an upgrade in Blr. Can anynoe tell me what price I can expect for the current set of 5 ? Any suggestions for the tye dealer in and around South Blr?

Also b/w GIII , Mich XM1 and Yoko A Drive which is better in 185/70 R14 for the stock swift rims. I don't intend to buy alloys as of now though I would be doing it as an add on later.

If possible plz share prices of the above new tyres too.

Thanks.

4th October 2010, 21:57	#1096
adityarath Newbie Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Kolkata Posts: 7 Thanked: 4 Times	Guys planning to replace all four tyres on my 2005 Swift Zxi - which one - conti / yoko / michi / bs ??? please suggest - daily run of nearly 100 kms all across the mumbai ...
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7th October 2010, 17:47	#1097
Nikhilb2008 Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 5,196 Thanked: 10,140 Times	Go for whichever you like. There is not much to choose between them.
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7th October 2010, 18:21	#1098
deepakchiniwal BHPian Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Melbourne Posts: 353 Thanked: 28 Times	Hi Nikhil, Nice to see you back on the forum. I have a Dzire VDi, looking to change the tyres, since last few months wanted to change, lack of funds has dragged it further and looks like it should happen sooner now. I am stuck between Conti CPC2, XM1+, A Drives and Apollo Accelere My preference would be Comfort, good breaking and long lasting. Can you suggest which one and merits over others in 185/70/14 profile. Read through few complaints on Side wall being soft on A Drives and XM1+. My drive is mostly in Bangalore and occasional trips (1-2 in two months) on good/bad/worse roads. Checked few shops and got a quote of 4050 per tire (3310 is the manufacturing date). Is this reasonable or can the offer get better @ your shop Appreciate your time! Last edited by deepakchiniwal : 7th October 2010 at 18:27.
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7th October 2010, 19:05	#1099
noopster Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Pune Posts: 9,238 Thanked: 12,904 Times View My Garage	@deepak, My 185/70 R14 A-drives cost me 14,000 for set of 4 in Mumbai (dealer quoted 3560 each). Michelin XM1+ were 4200 each (quoted price didn't negotiate). The A-drives are pretty good, a little prone to tramlining, but if you don't mind paying the extra, go for the Michelins. They are supposed to be the best!
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20th October 2010, 16:07	#1100
nitinkhemani Newbie Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: mumbai Posts: 4 Thanked: 0 Times	Swift Dzire VDi : Tire Upsize recommendation requested Hello Team, I'm aware that I'm initiating a new thread for a topic which has already been discussed multiple times over, I just have one small query to be clarified. Swift Dzire VDi comes with Stock 165/80R14 tires, want to upgrade them as I get delivery of the vehicle & am planning to get one of the two options mentioned below: Michelin XM1+ 185/70R14 Though this has been recommended as the ideal upgrade, as per one of the online tire size calculators this option reduces the overall diameter of the tire by 5 mm or 0.81% Michelin XM1+ 195/70R14 This on the other hand this option increases the overall diameter by 9 mm or 1.45%, I guess this would also increase the ground clearance by a few mm? The query I have is, would the 195/70/R14 tire fit the stock steel rim on the dzire & is it recommended as my usage is going to be equal amounts of city / highway runs? I'm looking at a more comfortable ride with good road grip & handling with limited / no loss in FE. Kindly suggest. Thanks, Nitin
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20th October 2010, 16:33	#1101
gauravdgr8 BHPian Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: CG/CH Posts: 778 Thanked: 1,296 Times View My Garage	Friends..have to change tires on my u-va.i did see bridgestone b250 and mrf zec2. Both have t rating. 3200 and 2500 resp. Size 155/80 13. What other tyres should i look for? Travel is mostly city and occasional long drives.
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21st October 2010, 11:21	#1104
deepakchiniwal BHPian Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Melbourne Posts: 353 Thanked: 28 Times	@nitinkhemani, I drive a Dzire VDi in Bangalore and I just went in for an Upgrade from the stock JK's 165/80/R14 to Michelin XM1+ 185/70/R14. After driving around with the stock for 20000 Kms, I must confess that the Michelin 185/70/R14 does wonder to the vehicle. I am just repenting why did I not upgrade on Day 1 after I got the vehicle. Think no twice, 185/70/14 is the right size you should go in for.
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24th October 2010, 12:31	#1106
hyper-VTEC BHPian Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Bengal...ooroo Posts: 648 Thanked: 243 Times View My Garage	i need to change the tyres for my 30K Kms run, 2007 Swift soon. Tyre size is 195/60/R15. I am confused between Michelin PPC, CPC2 or something else. I heard (read) that Michelins are softer and may get damaged easily by the bad Bangalore roads. CPC2 are relatively better and a bit less expensive as well (5300 vs 4700 per piece). How is Good Year Assurance? Requirements (in order of importance) -Comfort/Road Noise -VFM Also i am in a sort of limited budget, so would changing only 4 tyres now make sense? I would keep the best of the remaining as stepney. Please assist.
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24th October 2010, 15:44	#1107
Nikhilb2008 Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 5,196 Thanked: 10,140 Times	Changing 4 is a good option. I would suggest you go in for the CPC2 but be prepared for a slightly harder ride than the Michelins. they are more durable though. However, given that comfort and road noise are your first priorities and VFM is lower down the order, go in for the Michelin Primacy LC.
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25th October 2010, 15:39	#1108
hyper-VTEC BHPian Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Bengal...ooroo Posts: 648 Thanked: 243 Times View My Garage	thanks Nikhil. You definitely have one more customer added to your list of satisfied customers. Would ping you before i arrange for cash and come to Madhu's. Any idea on Good Year Assurance. The ride and price?
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26th October 2010, 02:40	#1109
nitinkhemani Newbie Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: mumbai Posts: 4 Thanked: 0 Times	anyone heard about the Goodyear DuraPlus, how do they perform, handle, etc? I got 165/80R14 as stock on my Dzire today!
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21st November 2010, 08:03	#1110
sam_sant2005 BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Bangalore Posts: 531 Thanked: 274 Times	My swift has done 9000 kms by now and Im looking for an upgrade in Blr. Can anynoe tell me what price I can expect for the current set of 5 ? Any suggestions for the tye dealer in and around South Blr? Also b/w GIII , Mich XM1 and Yoko A Drive which is better in 185/70 R14 for the stock swift rims. I don't intend to buy alloys as of now though I would be doing it as an add on later. If possible plz share prices of the above new tyres too. Thanks. Last edited by sam_sant2005 : 21st November 2010 at 08:04.
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