Maruti Suzuki Swift : Tyre & wheel upgrade thread

Nikhilb2008 · 26th March 2010, 17:46

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Originally Posted by rikhav

Hi Sachin
Thanks for the explanation. Nikhil only suggested XM1
But the sidewall is very important aspect to consider due to bad Mumbai roads. Ride comfort is important but not at a the cost of a weak sidewall

XM1+ has a stiff sidewall. It isnt as soft as some people make it out to be. Dont worry about it.

yzfrj · 26th March 2010, 18:18

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Originally Posted by Nikhilb2008

XM1+ has a stiff sidewall. It isnt as soft as some people make it out to be. Dont worry about it.

That is interesting. I thought they had soft sidewalls as the ride is better.
Tourenza's on my dad's swift seems way harder compared to my bro's Dezire's XM1 +

Was tempted to go to XM1 + as the ride is really good.
Grip IMO is not that great.

sachinj12 · 26th March 2010, 18:22

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Originally Posted by Perez

hey sachin, could you tell us where you got the tyres from. would like to source some for my swift as well

Got it from JC road. Just do some scouting in JC road, you will probably find a good deal. Why not go to Nikhil's shop?

Nikhilb2008 · 26th March 2010, 18:23

The key word is :SEEMS.

The rubber used by Michelin is softer to touch. Also, the sidewalls of the XM1+ are definitely softer than the ER60. That doesnt mean it's prone to damage. I've seen more A Drives and Apollo Aceleres with damaged sidewalls than XM1+s.

arjunrudra · 26th March 2010, 22:46

Nikhil , What about the mileage . Do the XM1+ really squeeze out that extra mileage compared tot he other tyres ?

Nikhilb2008 · 26th March 2010, 22:50

Yes. In ideal conditions, yes. But even in city running, it does improve the mileage slightly.

It's mainly due to the silica used which makes the tyre lighter. and since it's lighter, it means less rolling resistance.

arun.sidhes · 28th March 2010, 19:48

Hi GUYS,

I have checked out the last moment of price for 185/70/14.

Jk Tyre-3250
Michelin XM1- 3850
Bridgestone- 3600.
Same question I have many time, tomorrow I am going for change the tyre.Please let me know which one can i go for? My thought is JK tyre, because of price is very less.why we need to spend another 1500 to 2000 rupees for XM1 & bridgestone?
Please adivse me

sachinj12 · 28th March 2010, 21:53

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Originally Posted by arun.sidhes

Hi GUYS,

I have checked out the last moment of price for 185/70/14.

Jk Tyre-3250
Michelin XM1- 3850
Bridgestone- 3600.
Same question I have many time, tomorrow I am going for change the tyre.Please let me know which one can i go for? My thought is JK tyre, because of price is very less.why we need to spend another 1500 to 2000 rupees for XM1 & bridgestone?
Please adivse me

If you have read through various reviews of our fellow members and the review on the main page; you will by now, have understood that JK are so-so quality. Hence most of us either buy Bridgestone/Yokohama and those who don't mind shelling those extra bucks go for Michelin. You will be surprised by the differnce a few hundred bucks per tyre make. IF you feel Michelin/BS is expensive, buy Yoko's. They are really good. Have no regrets swapping my JK's for Yokohama A-drives.

kpzen · 28th March 2010, 22:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by arun.sidhes

Hi GUYS,

I have checked out the last moment of price for 185/70/14.

Jk Tyre-3250
Michelin XM1- 3850
Bridgestone- 3600.
Same question I have many time, tomorrow I am going for change the tyre.Please let me know which one can i go for? My thought is JK tyre, because of price is very less.why we need to spend another 1500 to 2000 rupees for XM1 & bridgestone?
Please adivse me

If u are on a budget, check out Apollo Aceleres and Yokohama A drives.
Both these are well priced and VFM.

rikhav · 29th March 2010, 07:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by arun.sidhes

Hi GUYS,

I have checked out the last moment of price for 185/70/14.

Jk Tyre-3250
Michelin XM1- 3850
Bridgestone- 3600.
Same question I have many time, tomorrow I am going for change the tyre.Please let me know which one can i go for? My thought is JK tyre, because of price is very less.why we need to spend another 1500 to 2000 rupees for XM1 & bridgestone?
Please adivse me

When I inquired 2 days before i was given a price of Rs. 3230/- per tyre for Continental. So you can check out those as well.
For sure would be better then Bridgestone and JK

thefuturist · 1st April 2010, 01:36

Hi gurus,

I have almost made up my mind to go for a tyre upgrade for my Swift VXi (with 35K odd kms on the odo) after coming across a few horror stories on the stock JK Tornadoes that do the duty on the VXi. I occassionally hit triple digit speeds on my long drives and the tyres are showing signs of age with some squealing around the corners.

The main reason why I have shied away from a tyre upgrade so far is that I don't intend to keep the car beyond 2011. Now my question is if the price of a new set of rubber (Yoko A-series possibly) would be justified for my case, or am I better off with a new set of the stock fitment since the Tornados give me a decent mileage and serve my purpose pretty well? Or should I steel my nerves and continue with my old set of tyres till I sell of the car? How long are the stock tyres supposed to last in any case?

Would appreciate all your inputs.

Thanks all and drive safe.

Nikhilb2008 · 1st April 2010, 08:51

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Originally Posted by soumyadeep

Thanks all and drive safe.

Only we should drive safe? You dont want to drive safe?

If you WANT to drive safe, you wouldnt even be asking the question

Quote:

Or should I steel my nerves and continue with my old set of tyres till I sell of the car?

Simply go in for the A drives. 2011 is a long time away.

thefuturist · 1st April 2010, 19:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nikhilb2008

Only we should drive safe? You dont want to drive safe?

If you WANT to drive safe, you wouldnt even be asking the question

Simply go in for the A drives. 2011 is a long time away.

Hmmm... I get the point

Pretty bluntly put though

So the Yoko A drive it is then. Won't be changing the stock rims, so I believe 185/70 R14 would be the right fit? And any idea on the life of the A drives? I'd be more than happy if they can see me through another 35K kms.

sachinj12 · 1st April 2010, 21:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by soumyadeep

Hmmm... I get the point

Pretty bluntly put though

Won't be changing the stock rims, so I believe 185/70 R14 would be the right fit? And any idea on the life of the A drives? I'd be more than happy if they can see me through another 35K kms.

Yes perfect fit for the 14 incher. They do last beyond 35k mark, provided driving is normal without any stunts.

On a different note, when I look at my car from a distance, I still feel the 185/70 R14 as puny. Nikhil, what other possible upsizes can be made on the 14" ? I believe 15" would fill the wheel arches completely, 14" looks so small on the car.

Nikhilb2008 · 1st April 2010, 22:27

Well, you can go in for 195/65 R14 or 205/60 R14. But both of these need 14 x 6j alloy wheels.

26th March 2010, 18:23	#979
Nikhilb2008 Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 5,196 Thanked: 10,139 Times	The key word is :SEEMS. The rubber used by Michelin is softer to touch. Also, the sidewalls of the XM1+ are definitely softer than the ER60. That doesnt mean it's prone to damage. I've seen more A Drives and Apollo Aceleres with damaged sidewalls than XM1+s.
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26th March 2010, 22:46	#980
arjunrudra Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Gurgaon/Chennai Posts: 1,577 Thanked: 197 Times View My Garage	Nikhil , What about the mileage . Do the XM1+ really squeeze out that extra mileage compared tot he other tyres ?
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26th March 2010, 22:50	#981
Nikhilb2008 Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 5,196 Thanked: 10,139 Times	Yes. In ideal conditions, yes. But even in city running, it does improve the mileage slightly. It's mainly due to the silica used which makes the tyre lighter. and since it's lighter, it means less rolling resistance.
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28th March 2010, 19:48	#982
arun.sidhes BHPian Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Chennai Posts: 64 Thanked: 0 Times	Hi GUYS, I have checked out the last moment of price for 185/70/14. Jk Tyre-3250 Michelin XM1- 3850 Bridgestone- 3600. Same question I have many time, tomorrow I am going for change the tyre.Please let me know which one can i go for? My thought is JK tyre, because of price is very less.why we need to spend another 1500 to 2000 rupees for XM1 & bridgestone? Please adivse me
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1st April 2010, 01:36	#986
thefuturist BHPian Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Bangalore Posts: 57 Thanked: 110 Times	Hi gurus, I have almost made up my mind to go for a tyre upgrade for my Swift VXi (with 35K odd kms on the odo) after coming across a few horror stories on the stock JK Tornadoes that do the duty on the VXi. I occassionally hit triple digit speeds on my long drives and the tyres are showing signs of age with some squealing around the corners. The main reason why I have shied away from a tyre upgrade so far is that I don't intend to keep the car beyond 2011. Now my question is if the price of a new set of rubber (Yoko A-series possibly) would be justified for my case, or am I better off with a new set of the stock fitment since the Tornados give me a decent mileage and serve my purpose pretty well? Or should I steel my nerves and continue with my old set of tyres till I sell of the car? How long are the stock tyres supposed to last in any case? Would appreciate all your inputs. Thanks all and drive safe.
	() Thanks

1st April 2010, 22:27	#990
Nikhilb2008 Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 5,196 Thanked: 10,139 Times	Well, you can go in for 195/65 R14 or 205/60 R14. But both of these need 14 x 6j alloy wheels.
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