[Ranendra]

Hi Nikhil,

Finally going for the tyre change next week for my Dec 2007 Swift VDi

Seriously considering 195/70 R14 on my OEM steel rims.

Question 1: Would 195/70 R14 fit into the OEM rims. Any problems that I might face later? How much would a wider steel rim cost that fits 195/70 R14?

Question 2: Would I face any problems with 195/70 R14 size on Swift? Like hitting the wheel arches or stability issues?

If this is out of question, then I shall finally settle for 185/70 R14.

Have shortlisted two tyres:

1. Michelin Energy XM1+
2. Goodyear Assurance

Feedback on Assurance is not very bad and love the unconditional 3 years warranty.

Your advices please.

Ranendra

[joshguy]

guys i have a doubt,i am planning to change the stock 175/80/R14 to an bigger one ie 185,but 185 comes only with a side wall of 70 so will it not affect the ground clearance of the vehicle by 10 mm?

Can we get 185/80 R14?

As of now my tyres have done 34700kms and can do another 5 k i guess.

which tyre will be good and VFM? Good year ,bridgestone , Michellin or Apollo???

I am planning to sell my car by 50k kms so thinking of investing less in a good year or apollo

please suggest

[Akshay1234]

joshguy - I suggest you get 195/70 r14 Apollo Accelere. 185/70 r14 is a wrong upsize and 195/75 would be perfect but I dont think its available. Apollos since you arent planning on keeping the vehicle for too long, and the tyres are good VFM.

[humyum]

Originally Posted by joshguy

guys i have a doubt,i am planning to change the stock 175/80/R14 to an bigger one ie 185,but 185 comes only with a side wall of 70 so will it not affect the ground clearance of the vehicle by 10 mm?

Can we get 185/80 R14?

As of now my tyres have done 34700kms and can do another 5 k i guess.

which tyre will be good and VFM? Good year ,bridgestone , Michellin or Apollo???

I am planning to sell my car by 50k kms so thinking of investing less in a good year or apollo

please suggest

Stock size is 165/80/R14 btw, and the ZXI and ZDI size is 185/70/R14. Yes ground clearance does go down a tiny bit, but does not make a difference at all in everyday driving. You cannot get 185/80/R14 as its a wrong upsize and will foul with the wheel well and also cause handling issues, speedo errors etc etc

Originally Posted by Ranendra

Hi Nikhil,

Finally going for the tyre change next week for my Dec 2007 Swift VDi

Seriously considering 195/70 R14 on my OEM steel rims.

Question 1: Would 195/70 R14 fit into the OEM rims. Any problems that I might face later? How much would a wider steel rim cost that fits 195/70 R14?

Question 2: Would I face any problems with 195/70 R14 size on Swift? Like hitting the wheel arches or stability issues?

If this is out of question, then I shall finally settle for 185/70 R14.

Have shortlisted two tyres:

1. Michelin Energy XM1+
2. Goodyear Assurance

Feedback on Assurance is not very bad and love the unconditional 3 years warranty.

Your advices please.

Ranendra

The maximum you can fit into a Swift Rim is 185 width, anything more and I ll bulge out. I suggest you stick to 185's if you are going to use it on the stock rims or buy alloys and go for 195's. Btw the right upsize is 195/65/R14 or 185/70/R14

Originally Posted by akshay1234

joshguy - I suggest you get 195/70 r14 Apollo Accelere. 185/70 r14 is a wrong upsize and 195/75 would be perfect but I dont think its available. Apollos since you arent planning on keeping the vehicle for too long, and the tyres are good VFM.

Bro, 185/70/R14 is the right upsize. Its used in ZXI and ZDI. 195/70/R14 is a wrong upsize and so is 195/75/R14 ( I know you dont get this size). The Right upsize for R14's and 195's is 195/65/R14

[joshguy]

Originally Posted by akshay1234

joshguy - I suggest you get 195/70 r14 Apollo Accelere. 185/70 r14 is a wrong upsize and 195/75 would be perfect but I dont think its available. Apollos since you arent planning on keeping the vehicle for too long, and the tyres are good VFM.

Stock size is 165/80/R14 btw, and the ZXI and ZDI size is 185/70/R14. Yes ground clearance does go down a tiny bit, but does not make a difference at all in everyday driving. You cannot get 185/80/R14 as its a wrong upsize and will foul with the wheel well and also cause handling issues, speedo errors etc etc

Thank you !

BTW will Bridgestone and goodyear be same price as apollo? what will be the difference between michellin and these tyres?

Am looking at wider tyre only for the sake of better braking

[Ranendra]

Hi Guys,

Finally dumped my stock JK Tornados (167/80 R14) after 67K KMS and fitted Michelin XM1+ 180/70 R14.

Initial feedback:

1. Very comfortable. Feels like someone has laid out a thick rubber sheet on the roads

2. Steering is much lighter but has adequate feedback

3. Car rolls much freely in neutral

4. Noise is almost gone (Unfortunately could'nt change the rear right tyre. One of the screw's thread is damaged and the tyre is held by only 3 screws now. The tire shop suggested that I put on the Michelin only after fixing the thread. So am running with 3 Michelins, 1 JK and Michelin is in the stepney)

5. Cornered in the expressway @ 70 kmph and car seemed to be planted

6. Body noise and clatters seems to have decreased due to the soft rubber.

Have never felt that the car was so smooth even when I took the delivery of the new car.

Thanks to all for suggesting Michelin XM1+.

Got them for Rs 4000 each and had Rs 560 extra for alignment and balancing.


Ranendra

[joshguy]

Ranendra the michellin cost 4k per tyre here in chennai too,any idea on the cost for same size tyres in apollo,bridgestone MRF and goodyear?

[Ranendra]

Ranendra the michellin cost 4k per tyre here in chennai too,any idea on the cost for same size tyres in apollo,bridgestone MRF and goodyear?

Hi Joshguy,

I was not much interested with Apollo and MRF hence did not take any quote from the dealer.

I took quote for the following 185/70 R14 here in Kolkata:
1. Yokohama A Drive - Rs 3550
2. Goodyear Duraplus - Rs 3650
3. Bridgestone Turanza ER60 - Rs 3700

BTW, did repair the two broken nuts today and fitted the 4th Michelin XM1+. Drove back to the tyre shop to do alignment. Got tempted by Nitrogen and filled up 4 tyres with N2 (still Rs 50/tyre with 3 months free topup). They sucked out the air from the tyre and then filled Nitrogen. I just dont believe that it changed the handling and comfort of the car.

Noticeable difference between State 1: 4 Michelin XM1+ with normal air and State 2: 4 Michelin XM1+ with Nitrogen. Car is Swift Diesel that has been meticulously maintained and has done 67K KMS.

State 1:
1. Steering was very light
2. Grip was better than stock JK
3. Ride comfort was good and I could feel a cushioning below me

State 2:
1. Steering has become a bit heavy
2. It is extremely Grippy
3. Ride conform is EXCELLENT now. Cant believe that just N2 can make such difference. The shop's approach is a bad patch of road and when I drove in, I felt the bricks and the stones that were laid out. After filling N2, when I came out, the same road seemed like a tarmac. Could not feel the brick laid road. The small gravels gave me a steering feedback, but was very silently taken by the tyres.

So, I have become a fan of Nitrogen in my 50km drive back home. Got so interested that I was intentionally taking the car through all sorts of bad patches in the road.

But mind it I am maintaining 36 psi in front and 33 psi at the rear as written in my B-pillar.

Hope this info helps.

Regards
Ran

[Ranendra]

Guys,

Did around 500 kms on the care after changing to the Michelin XM1+ last week.

Around 250 kms was on NH2 from Kolkata to Barddhaman (my ancestral hometown). Roads are great here.

Have filled the tyres with Nitrogen (36psi front and 33 psi rear)

My observations:
1. Car feels planted even on the highways
2. FE was around 22 kmpl. GREAT!
3. Took the car to max 130 kmph the car was composed and straight (the alignment done by the tyre seller was better than the one did by the MASS)
4. Ride down the highway felt like we were floating on the air
5. With 36 psi in the front I was still getting the feedback from the road
6. Low speed drive with 5 adults was very comfortable
7. Small stone chips, gravel could not be felt
8. Steering feels heavy
9. Due to less noise from the tyres I have started feeling that the engine is roaring bit higher. Just had the car serviced at 67K KMS last week and had got the engine oil changed to Mobil 1 and engine decarbonised.

I am very happy with XM1+ and would definitely suggest that anyone looking for comfortable and silent ride can opt for this tyre.

Have driven Swift with JK Tornado, JK Vectra and Bridgestone Turanza ER60 before. I would rate that this one is much better.

Ranendra

[Dnot]

Hi All, I am thinking for changing the stock tyres on my Swift VDI (29k kms) to 185/70 R14 using the current steel rims. How big would the drop in mileage be? On my stock tyres, I currently get 18+ km/litre.

[DieselFan]

Originally Posted by Dnot

Hi All, I am thinking for changing the stock tyres on my Swift VDI (29k kms) to 185/70 R14 using the current steel rims. How big would the drop in mileage be? On my stock tyres, I currently get 18+ km/litre.

I have a 185/70 R14 and the drop was insignificant (Maybe 0.5kmpl). I think the drop was because of the performance tyres that I put in BS Potenza GIIIs. If you pick up comfort tyres then the drop will be insignificant.

[blackstallion76]

Hi All,

Its time for tyre change on my swift. Current CPC2 has served me well in good/bad roads for 30000 kms. Current profile is 195/60/R15.

My choices are following:
Yokohama C Drive
Yokohama C Drive 2
Yokohama AVS V550

Is Yoko C Drive 2 available in India?
How is Yoko V550 compared to C drive?

I am looking for comfort, wet/dry grip and wet/dry braking.
My usage is 50% city and 50% highways.

Please suggest.

[iridium]

Why don't you consider Michelin Primacy LC 195/60 R15 ?.

[Buffetfan]

Originally Posted by blackstallion76

Hi All,

Its time for tyre change on my swift. Current CPC2 has served me well in good/bad roads for 30000 kms. Current profile is 195/60/R15.

My choices are following:
Yokohama C Drive
Yokohama C Drive 2
Yokohama AVS V550

Is Yoko C Drive 2 available in India?
How is Yoko V550 compared to C drive?

I am looking for comfort, wet/dry grip and wet/dry braking.
My usage is 50% city and 50% highways.

Please suggest.

Look at this for relative positioning of Yokohama Tires. If you click, it will open a bigger image. I have C.Drive in 225/60R15 on my Innova and pretty happy with the tires over the past 18k kms. They are not near the half way wear mark yet!

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/tyre-a...ml#post2022454

[blackstallion76]

@iridium:
I believe Yokos are VFM compared to Michelins. Hence deciding on Yokos.

On the other note, I am just contemplating as to retain 195/60/R15 or go for 185/70/R14 profile. May be there is a thread on this topic. But not able to decide.

As per swift spec, the rim size should be 14"x5.5J
But, my current alloys are 15"x7J.

I think this may have impacted the tire wear and may also impact the suspension.
To be frank, I have always ended up with alignment issues after change.
I would like to playaround with the suspension set designed for 14" and not complicate things.
I have to take this decision by this week as I have to change my tires ASAP.

Can anyone explain in simple terms what impact would have if I retain 195/60/R15 on swift? Please advise.