[vaisakhr]

Hey guys,


The stock tires are at the end of their life at 65k. Planning to swap them with some fresh rubber. I prefer soft compounds. Since I have been a fan of P3STs in my swift, wanted to go for 4ST. Sadly its not available in the stock size of the car. Do I have any other option rather than going for the 205 section michelins. Stock is 195/55/R16


Please advice

[itwasntme]

Planning to change the stock Ciaz Sigma 185/65/15 tyres from the OEM MRFs to Michelin. Focus is purely on rear seat ride quality & less noise. I am assuming Energy XM2+ is by far the best available in the Indian market?

Should I even think of upsizing? Please note I am on the stock 15" steel wheels and not alloys.

https://www.michelin.in/auto/browse-...sion/185/65/15

[PrasannaDhana]

Originally Posted by itwasntme

Planning to change the stock Ciaz Sigma 185/65/15 tyres from the OEM MRFs to Michelin. Focus is purely on rear seat ride quality & less noise. I am assuming Energy XM2+ is by far the best available in the Indian market?

Should I even think of upsizing? Please note I am on the stock 15" steel wheels and not alloys.

Trust me, the best choice for less noise and superb ride will be Michelin Primacy 4 ST. I am on the third set of tyres. After stock Apollo 185/65 R15, I replaced to Continental MC5 195/60 R15 , which is an amazing tyre if you are after road grip, although it is a bit noisy. My third set is Michelin P4ST 195/65 R15. You can also opt for 195/60 R15. I chose 195/65 for the 2cm increase in the ground clearance over the 195/60 sections.

You cannot go beyond 195 width as the ciaz 15 inch alloys are 5.5j spec. I don't know about steel wheels though.

The P4ST is totally silent (I enjoyed this fact even today while driving back from a 250km trip) and has very good ride.

[drift2race]

I am planning to change the tyres of my Ciaz zeta from 185/65/15 MRF to Michelin 195/60 R15 . However i want to add spacers so that the tyres are now flush with the wheels much more , from where can i get quality spacers in NCR and how do they affect ride quality and safety of the car ?

[ptaneja]

Originally Posted by drift2race

I am planning to change the tyres of my Ciaz zeta from 185/65/15 MRF to Michelin 195/60 R15 . However i want to add spacers so that the tyres are now flush with the wheels much more , from where can i get quality spacers in NCR and how do they affect ride quality and safety of the car ?

Nothing better than this >

https://www.rogermotors.com/productdetail/rogerab-duo

I guess they are available on Amazon too.

[drift2race]

Originally Posted by ptaneja

Nothing better than this >

https://www.rogermotors.com/productdetail/rogerab-duo

I guess they are available on Amazon too.

I am looking for spacers for my wheels

[ptaneja]

Guys which one would you recommend for replacing Apollo Alnac4G on Ciaz - 195/55 R16 ( 52k run )

I got the following quotes, would be great if someone can see if these are right ( and ofcourse if you have a known who can give further discount )

Bridgestone - 6500
Goodyear - 5250
Yokohoma - 6400
Ceat - 5400
Apollo - 6800

( Inclusive of balancing / alignment + 400 extra for buy back )

One dealer was very aggressively going for Ceat, and the reason being next day replacement. He said that as far as experience, now a days , Ceat creates the least amount of problems while replacement if need be.

Which of these would you guys recommend ?

[PrasannaDhana]

Originally Posted by ptaneja

Guys which one would you recommend for replacing Apollo Alnac4G on Ciaz - 195/55 R16 ( 52k run )

Why not Michelin/Continental?

It is available here, even in tier 2 cities.

[ptaneja]

Originally Posted by PrasannaDhana

Why not Michelin/Continental?

It is available here, even in tier 2 cities.

No one quoted Michelin ( unless I specifically go to their store / site ) , and for Continental it's almost same as Bridgestone.

[ptaneja]

While I am still searching for options, will the following work to replace existing tyres ( 52K kms / 5.5 years )-

195/60 - R16
OR
205/60 - R16
OR
OEM size of 195/55 - R16

The only purpose is to get extra few mm's of ground clearance.

Just dont want a heavy steering/drop in mileage/scraping the wheel well.

Please suggest as 50% dealers are confident that 195/60 will work even with 3 adults and boot full. Rest 50% want to go with stock.

[PrasannaDhana]

Originally Posted by ptaneja

While I am still searching for options, will the following work to replace existing tyres ( 52K kms / 5.5 years )-

195/60 - R16
OR
205/60 - R16
OR
OEM size of 195/55 - R16

The only purpose is to get extra few mm's of ground clearance.

Just dont want a heavy steering/drop in mileage/scraping the wheel well.
.

195/60 R16 will be ideal. It gives you 10 mm increase in GC and won't be heavy on the steering.

205/60 will give you more than 15mm in GC but it will also make the steering heavier and may scrape the wheel well.


Here is a comparison between 195/55 and 195/60



I have 195/65 R15 in mine and it has given a good improvement on GC over the stock (185/65 R15)

[sandeep959]

Originally Posted by PrasannaDhana

Trust me, the best choice for less noise and superb ride will be Michelin Primacy 4 ST. I am on the third set of tyres. After stock Apollo 185/65 R15, I replaced to Continental MC5 195/60 R15 , which is an amazing tyre if you are after road grip, although it is a bit noisy. My third set is Michelin P4ST 195/65 R15. You can also opt for 195/60 R15. I chose 195/65 for the 2cm increase in the ground clearance over the 195/60 sections.

You cannot go beyond 195 width as the ciaz 15 inch alloys are 5.5j spec. I don't know about steel wheels though.

The P4ST is totally silent (I enjoyed this fact even today while driving back from a 250km trip) and has very good ride.

Can you post the pics of your car with 195/65 R15? I'm due for a tyre change now, and want to upgrade, but the tyre dealer is advising against 195/65. I have lot of issues with regard to ground clearance while driving in Kerala.


PS: Pls check your DM/PM. i have sent you something.

[PrasannaDhana]

Originally Posted by sandeep959

Can you post the pics of your car with 195/65 R15? I'm due for a tyre change now, and want to upgrade, but the tyre dealer is advising against 195/65. I have lot of issues with regard to ground clearance while driving in Kerala.


PS: Pls check your DM/PM. i have sent you something.

Here they are








I have completed 25000 km on these 195/65 tyres, not even a single issue. Infact I enjoy the increased ground clearance now.

Only reason why your dealer is advising against the 195/65 must be that he may not have it in stock and he wants to give you the 195/60 which he may already have.

PS: I didn't receive any PM

[Veelubai]

Hi Prasanna,

Just wanted to check and confirm regarding the practicality of 195/65 R15 with regard to tyre fouling with wheel arches or rear tyres scraping when loaded with 3 adults in the rear on highways etc.

Any issues faced while on full load? Drawing inspiration from your upgrade and finalising on my next set of tyres in 195/65 format.

Originally Posted by PrasannaDhana

Here they are

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I have completed 25000 km on these 195/65 tyres, not even a single issue. Infact I enjoy the increased ground clearance now.

Only reason why your dealer is advising against the 195/65 must be that he may not have it in stock and he wants to give you the 195/60 which he may already have.

PS: I didn't receive any PM

[PrasannaDhana]

Originally Posted by Veelubai

Hi Prasanna,

Any issues faced while on full load? Drawing inspiration from your upgrade and finalising on my next set of tyres in 195/65 format.

Nopes, nothing at all. I have driven it with 4 people on board with over 100 kg weighing books in the boot. Didn't face any problem.

What brand are you going for? Now that Michelin is unavailable, I hear great reviews for continental UC6