Indica Vista : Tyre & wheel upgrade thread

greenhorn · 1st March 2009, 18:44

try to get 5.5J rims - they should go fine with both . 5J rims would be too thin for 185 section tyres , and 6J rims would be too thick for the 175's
Check the recommended rim sizes for the sizes given here Michelin India - Energy XM1+

kiren · 3rd March 2009, 22:26

Yes an 14" x 5.5j alloy can accomodate both 185/60 & 175/65 tyres. However please check the offset of the wheels.

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i have a basic question here:

would any 14" Alloy wheel accommodate both 175/65 R14 and 185/60 R14 tyres or do I require different alloys for them?

I was thinking of going for Alloys for my Vista first (for the 175 tyres) and then upgrade to 185 tyres later. can i use the same alloys in this case?

if not, i better wait and upgrade to alloys and 185 tyres together (wallet permitting)

WasavaTyres · 3rd March 2009, 23:52

YOu can use the same alloys for 175 and 185 tires just fine. No complications there.

revhappy · 3rd April 2009, 11:54

Hi Guys,

I feel the width of the stock tyres of my indica Vista( 175/65 R14) is sufficient (or may be 185 would be good) in comparison to swift's stock tyres.

But I feel the tyres are too low profile in comparison to swift, thats why even though the swift has 13" tyres the overall diameter looks same as the wheels of the Vista.

Whenever I go over deep pot holes on my Indica Vistathe noise is irritating as if the tyres are all steel and no rubber.

Hence I need higher profile tyres, i.e. more meaty rubber.Can you guys please suggest?
Should I go for 185/65 R14 or 195/65 R14?

Thanks,
Nitin

greenhorn · 3rd April 2009, 12:10

all the listed sizes have the same profile as OE = 65. you have changed only the width. you will get speedo error

The swift has 14 inchers, and comes with 80 profile (165/80) tyres

revhappy · 3rd April 2009, 12:21

Thanks @Greenhorn, May be the 80 profile of the tyres of the swift made me think it is 13 inchers.

How about 185/70 R14 for the Vista in terms of comfort/ ride quality and speedo error ?

revhappy · 4th April 2009, 01:30

@Greenhorn, I did some more research.
The profile 65(section height) is a percentage of the section width. Hence
175/65 R14 and 195/65 R14 even though both are 65 profile, 195/65 R14 has more section height than the 175/65 R14.
I am confused again

The swift zxi comes with 185/70 R14. I think that will be perfect for the vista as well. It will have enough section height to take care of pot holes and grip would be good as well. Please let me know if anyone has tried this size.

Cheers,
Nitin

greenhorn · 4th April 2009, 01:35

Tire size calculator here ya go

chose yourself

revhappy · 4th April 2009, 02:09

Thanks @Greenhorn.
According to this 205/55 R14 seems to be the best! It will have only 0.3% speedo error, the side wall will be almost the same as stock yet the grip will be awesome. 195/60 R14 seems to be the next best with 1.1% speedo error.

But will 205 width slowdown the Vista TDI?

iraghava · 4th April 2009, 02:45

Both 185/60 and 185/65 are within permissible limits of OD tolerance (+2 to -3%) and can be used without any issues. But for 185/65 do check that it does not scrape anywhere.

avasekeh · 23rd May 2009, 22:24

So 185/60 it is for a Vista?. From what i see, 185/60 seems to be the best bet, but the tyre shop guy suggested 185/65..will that work?. I doubt it but the tyre guy should know better?

aniyahr · 5th June 2009, 23:12

I chose 185/65 R14 for my Indica Vista.. I was worried about the further decrease in ground clearance with 180/60 R14.
But, according to most people the correct upsize is the latter and I also noticed that it is little difficult to fit the spare tyre of 185/65 in the boot.
Now I am worried.. can any one please tell me what problems I can expect with my upgrade apart from speedo error? Is sppedo error is of any consequence as for as the performance and life of the car is concerned? I read some where that larger diameter tyres than the stock ones mean decreased breaking efficiency, is it true?
I would be really grateful if somebody can answer..

smats · 3rd November 2009, 19:09

Sorry to bring up this old thread but my dad's Vista Saffire Aniversary edition is fitted with 13 inch alloys (175/70 R13) and they make hell lot of noise on normal or cemented roads.

Is there any reason why saffire comes fitted with 13 inchers while the quadrajet/tdi comes with 14 inchers?
Also is tyre noise a known problem in the vista or its just our car?

greenhorn · 3rd November 2009, 20:06

what are the tyres smats?

smats · 4th November 2009, 11:33

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Originally Posted by greenhorn

what are the tyres smats?

The tyres are goodyear

1st March 2009, 18:44	#16
greenhorn BANNED Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: KL-01 Posts: 7,878 Thanked: 4,910 Times View My Garage	try to get 5.5J rims - they should go fine with both . 5J rims would be too thin for 185 section tyres , and 6J rims would be too thick for the 175's Check the recommended rim sizes for the sizes given here Michelin India - Energy XM1+ Last edited by greenhorn : 1st March 2009 at 18:46.
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3rd March 2009, 23:52	#18
WasavaTyres BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Indore Posts: 822 Thanked: 459 Times View My Garage	YOu can use the same alloys for 175 and 185 tires just fine. No complications there.
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3rd April 2009, 11:54	#19
revhappy BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Singapore Posts: 362 Thanked: 41 Times	Hi Guys, I feel the width of the stock tyres of my indica Vista( 175/65 R14) is sufficient (or may be 185 would be good) in comparison to swift's stock tyres. But I feel the tyres are too low profile in comparison to swift, thats why even though the swift has 13" tyres the overall diameter looks same as the wheels of the Vista. Whenever I go over deep pot holes on my Indica Vistathe noise is irritating as if the tyres are all steel and no rubber. Hence I need higher profile tyres, i.e. more meaty rubber.Can you guys please suggest? Should I go for 185/65 R14 or 195/65 R14? Thanks, Nitin
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3rd April 2009, 12:10	#20
greenhorn BANNED Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: KL-01 Posts: 7,878 Thanked: 4,910 Times View My Garage	all the listed sizes have the same profile as OE = 65. you have changed only the width. you will get speedo error The swift has 14 inchers, and comes with 80 profile (165/80) tyres
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3rd April 2009, 12:21	#21
revhappy BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Singapore Posts: 362 Thanked: 41 Times	Thanks @Greenhorn, May be the 80 profile of the tyres of the swift made me think it is 13 inchers. How about 185/70 R14 for the Vista in terms of comfort/ ride quality and speedo error ?
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4th April 2009, 01:30	#22
revhappy BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Singapore Posts: 362 Thanked: 41 Times	@Greenhorn, I did some more research. The profile 65(section height) is a percentage of the section width. Hence 175/65 R14 and 195/65 R14 even though both are 65 profile, 195/65 R14 has more section height than the 175/65 R14. I am confused again The swift zxi comes with 185/70 R14. I think that will be perfect for the vista as well. It will have enough section height to take care of pot holes and grip would be good as well. Please let me know if anyone has tried this size. Cheers, Nitin Last edited by revhappy : 4th April 2009 at 01:44.
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4th April 2009, 01:35	#23
greenhorn BANNED Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: KL-01 Posts: 7,878 Thanked: 4,910 Times View My Garage	Tire size calculator here ya go chose yourself
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4th April 2009, 02:09	#24
revhappy BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Singapore Posts: 362 Thanked: 41 Times	Thanks @Greenhorn. According to this 205/55 R14 seems to be the best! It will have only 0.3% speedo error, the side wall will be almost the same as stock yet the grip will be awesome. 195/60 R14 seems to be the next best with 1.1% speedo error. But will 205 width slowdown the Vista TDI?
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4th April 2009, 02:45	#25
iraghava Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Bhaiyyaland Posts: 7,993 Thanked: 281 Times View My Garage	Both 185/60 and 185/65 are within permissible limits of OD tolerance (+2 to -3%) and can be used without any issues. But for 185/65 do check that it does not scrape anywhere.
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23rd May 2009, 22:24	#26
avasekeh BHPian Join Date: May 2009 Location: Bangs Posts: 60 Thanked: 8 Times	So 185/60 it is for a Vista?. From what i see, 185/60 seems to be the best bet, but the tyre shop guy suggested 185/65..will that work?. I doubt it but the tyre guy should know better?
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5th June 2009, 23:12	#27
aniyahr BHPian Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Bengaluru Posts: 32 Thanked: 17 Times	I chose 185/65 R14 for my Indica Vista.. I was worried about the further decrease in ground clearance with 180/60 R14. But, according to most people the correct upsize is the latter and I also noticed that it is little difficult to fit the spare tyre of 185/65 in the boot. Now I am worried.. can any one please tell me what problems I can expect with my upgrade apart from speedo error? Is sppedo error is of any consequence as for as the performance and life of the car is concerned? I read some where that larger diameter tyres than the stock ones mean decreased breaking efficiency, is it true? I would be really grateful if somebody can answer..
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3rd November 2009, 19:09	#28
smats BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: NOIDA Posts: 37 Thanked: 2 Times	Right size for Vista Saffire Sorry to bring up this old thread but my dad's Vista Saffire Aniversary edition is fitted with 13 inch alloys (175/70 R13) and they make hell lot of noise on normal or cemented roads. Is there any reason why saffire comes fitted with 13 inchers while the quadrajet/tdi comes with 14 inchers? Also is tyre noise a known problem in the vista or its just our car?
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3rd November 2009, 20:06	#29
greenhorn BANNED Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: KL-01 Posts: 7,878 Thanked: 4,910 Times View My Garage	what are the tyres smats?
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