The right tyre upsize

humyum · 15th February 2008, 23:42

With 15 inchers and wanting for 185s for the swift diesel..whats the ideal upsize?is it 185/65/R15s and what tyres are available in the same?

Xehaust · 16th February 2008, 04:45

Hey Humyum, you are spot on with the upsize for your swift. Id suggest Michelin as they have the perfect balance of all three things anybody would want - Comfort, Performance & yes, even Price.

itzzme · 16th February 2008, 10:23

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Originally Posted by humyum

With 15 inchers and wanting for 185s for the swift diesel..whats the ideal upsize?is it 185/65/R15s and what tyres are available in the same?

In 15" 195/60 R15 and 205/55 R15 are the best possible available sizes.

humyum · 16th February 2008, 10:46

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Originally Posted by Xehaust

Hey Humyum, you are spot on with the upsize for your swift. Id suggest Michelin as they have the perfect balance of all three things anybody would want - Comfort, Performance & yes, even Price.

But is michelin availabe in the 185/65/R15 size?

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Originally Posted by itzzme

In 15" 195/60 R15 and 205/55 R15 are the best possible available sizes.

Yeah but i dont want to go the 195 way.I want to stick to 185s and have 15 incher white alloys.

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itzzme · 16th February 2008, 15:48

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Originally Posted by humyum

But is michelin availabe in the 185/65/R15 size?

Yeah but i dont want to go the 195 way.I want to stick to 185s and have 15 incher white alloys.

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Which pattern is avialable in 185/65 R15 ??

Xehaust · 16th February 2008, 15:51

Hey humyum, checked the michelin site, they dont have this size available.
Yokohama is the next best bet - Here are the Yokohama Models available in the size Yokohama 185/65/R15 Tyres
Only problem is, you will have to find out about the official Yokohama dealers...
Heres a little help - you can ask Jaibir from this thread SWIFT UPGRADES
Another thread is - Yokohama Dealers Mumbai (User - Ineteeien)
Hope these help you

jaibir · 16th February 2008, 15:59

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Originally Posted by Xehaust

Heres a little help - you can ask Jaibir from this thread SWIFT UPGRADES

I got my tyres from Anand Tyres in Milan Subway. Bombay Tyres in the same area is also a dealer.

The distributor for Yokohama in Mumbai is Mr Hanosh Patel. You can check with him on other dealers. He has his own shop somewhere in South Mumbai. PM me if you want his number.

binoyb22 · 16th February 2008, 16:08

Which would be the best Upgrade for the GETZ CRDI

195/60/15 or 195/60/14??

Xehaust · 17th February 2008, 01:55

Hey binoyb22, do you want to upsize or upgrade?

Upsize means you want to go in for bigger rim size (15 inch in your case)

Upgrade means you want to get better tyres offering more grip (wider tread - layman terms, thicker tyres) but the rim size stays same (14 inch in your case)

Anyway, if you want to upsize, the right upsize would be 185/55 R15 as the Getz Prime CRDI has the original size as 175/65 R14.

humyum · 17th February 2008, 15:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xehaust

Hey humyum, checked the michelin site, they dont have this size available.
Yokohama is the next best bet - Here are the Yokohama Models available in the size Yokohama 185/65/R15 Tyres
Only problem is, you will have to find out about the official Yokohama dealers...
Heres a little help - you can ask Jaibir from this thread SWIFT UPGRADES
Another thread is - Yokohama Dealers Mumbai (User - Ineteeien)
Hope these help you

Thanks a lot Xehaust buddy.This definately helped.I ll let u guys know when i get the car and i m done with the install

badboyscad · 17th February 2008, 16:40

guys...what would be the right tyre and alloy UPSIZE for my maruti suzuki alto lxi??..also suggest a set of good sport tyres for the same.

badboyscad · 17th February 2008, 17:55

umm...sorry. forgot to mention..what would be the suitable set of sport performance tyres if i upgrade my ALTO's wheels to 14 inchers.??.. suggest brand and sizes please.

ashutoshb · 18th February 2008, 00:03

What should be the ideal upsize for the Logan? Stock size is 185/70/R14.

Is 205/60R15 alright?

Also, if I want to keep the current 14" rims, which one should I go for? Is a 205/70/R14 available? I don't want to decrease the profile, because the car already has an undertyred look.

kpzen · 18th February 2008, 00:49

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Originally Posted by badboyscad

guys...what would be the right tyre and alloy UPSIZE for my maruti suzuki alto lxi??..also suggest a set of good sport tyres for the same.

155/65-13 Michelin XM1.
14" for an alto is useless and not advisable.

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Originally Posted by ashutoshb

What should be the ideal upsize for the Logan? Stock size is 185/70/R14.

Is 205/60R15 alright?

Also, if I want to keep the current 14" rims, which one should I go for? Is a 205/70/R14 available? I don't want to decrease the profile, because the car already has an undertyred look.

1. Ideal upsize would be 195/65-14 or 195/60-15 as in case of Swift.
2. All upsizes u have mentioned are wrong.
3. When u upsize your tyres the profile will decrease. Thats a rule.

Xehaust · 18th February 2008, 01:47

I would like to say here that people, please post your current size when asking advice for an upgrade/upsize. It makes it easier for finding out. Thanks.

ashutoshb - Id suggest you stick to 14 inches and go with the size 195/65 R14 if you want to upgrade as stated by kpzen. Although i must say that 185/70 R14 is a very good size. 185 tread gives ample handling and perhaps if you must, stay with the same size but buy another brand of rubber like say michelin or yokohama. Also, remember, handling is not only dependent on the tyres but also on the chassis of the car. So by only upgrading or upsizing doesnt mean that you will get huge amounts of handling performance. (Though they do help

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badboyscad - Like kpzen has stated, its useless to go for 14 inch. Read on below as to why.
But kpzen, shouldnt the upsize be like 165/70 R13? Am not sure about this as i havnt come across many of these profile rims and tyres.
Also, Michelin does not have 13 inch in XM1 series.

And people, always keep in mind, upsizing leads to loss in ride quality even though it leads to gain in handling. So the bigger the upsize, the more your behinds will feel our roads.

Most cars are happy with a +1 upsize, meaning that you can go 1 inch bigger. Eg. Alto has 12 inch rims, so 13 inch should be ok. +1 upsize is a balance between loss in ride comfort and proportionate gain in handling performance. The higher you go after +1, the higher the loss in ride comfort as proportionate to the VERY marginal gains in handling.

Hope this helps people who are confused and want to go in for those huge bling bling rims. Remember, huge rims and almost negligent rubber are a fad in other countries simply because their roads are super-smooth. Our roads eat up suspensions for snacks, so you know how your butt will feel

Another thing to note is that the bigger the upsize, the more overtime your suspension and other parts of the car will put in to cope with it.
This will not only lead to higher wear and tear of mechanical parts but also bigger maintainance and repair bills & the thicker the tyre, the lower the fuel efficiency.

HOPE THIS HELPS A LOT OF PEOPLE IN UNDERSTANDING WHAT UPSIZING/UPGRADING IS ALL ABOUT.

I guess ill be starting a new thread soon about the do's & dont's and implications and pros & cons about upsizing/upgrading very soon.

15th February 2008, 23:42	#106
humyum Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 2,825 Thanked: 5,851 Times	With 15 inchers and wanting for 185s for the swift diesel..whats the ideal upsize?is it 185/65/R15s and what tyres are available in the same?
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16th February 2008, 04:45	#107
Xehaust BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Mumbai Posts: 846 Thanked: 82 Times View My Garage	Hey Humyum, you are spot on with the upsize for your swift. Id suggest Michelin as they have the perfect balance of all three things anybody would want - Comfort, Performance & yes, even Price.
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16th February 2008, 15:51	#111
Xehaust BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Mumbai Posts: 846 Thanked: 82 Times View My Garage	Hey humyum, checked the michelin site, they dont have this size available. Yokohama is the next best bet - Here are the Yokohama Models available in the size Yokohama 185/65/R15 Tyres Only problem is, you will have to find out about the official Yokohama dealers... Heres a little help - you can ask Jaibir from this thread SWIFT UPGRADES Another thread is - Yokohama Dealers Mumbai (User - Ineteeien) Hope these help you
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16th February 2008, 16:08	#113
binoyb22 BHPian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: cochin Posts: 168 Thanked: 2 Times	Which would be the best Upgrade for the GETZ CRDI 195/60/15 or 195/60/14??
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17th February 2008, 01:55	#114
Xehaust BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Mumbai Posts: 846 Thanked: 82 Times View My Garage	Hey binoyb22, do you want to upsize or upgrade? Upsize means you want to go in for bigger rim size (15 inch in your case) Upgrade means you want to get better tyres offering more grip (wider tread - layman terms, thicker tyres) but the rim size stays same (14 inch in your case) Anyway, if you want to upsize, the right upsize would be 185/55 R15 as the Getz Prime CRDI has the original size as 175/65 R14. Last edited by Xehaust : 17th February 2008 at 01:56.
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17th February 2008, 16:40	#116
badboyscad Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: TN Posts: 1,511 Thanked: 483 Times View My Garage	guys...what would be the right tyre and alloy UPSIZE for my maruti suzuki alto lxi??..also suggest a set of good sport tyres for the same.
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17th February 2008, 17:55	#117
badboyscad Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: TN Posts: 1,511 Thanked: 483 Times View My Garage	umm...sorry. forgot to mention..what would be the suitable set of sport performance tyres if i upgrade my ALTO's wheels to 14 inchers.??.. suggest brand and sizes please.
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18th February 2008, 00:03	#118
ashutoshb Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: NOIDA Posts: 1,957 Thanked: 5,358 Times View My Garage	What should be the ideal upsize for the Logan? Stock size is 185/70/R14. Is 205/60R15 alright? Also, if I want to keep the current 14" rims, which one should I go for? Is a 205/70/R14 available? I don't want to decrease the profile, because the car already has an undertyred look.
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18th February 2008, 01:47	#120
Xehaust BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Mumbai Posts: 846 Thanked: 82 Times View My Garage	I would like to say here that people, please post your current size when asking advice for an upgrade/upsize. It makes it easier for finding out. Thanks. ashutoshb - Id suggest you stick to 14 inches and go with the size 195/65 R14 if you want to upgrade as stated by kpzen. Although i must say that 185/70 R14 is a very good size. 185 tread gives ample handling and perhaps if you must, stay with the same size but buy another brand of rubber like say michelin or yokohama. Also, remember, handling is not only dependent on the tyres but also on the chassis of the car. So by only upgrading or upsizing doesnt mean that you will get huge amounts of handling performance. (Though they do help ) badboyscad - Like kpzen has stated, its useless to go for 14 inch. Read on below as to why. But kpzen, shouldnt the upsize be like 165/70 R13? Am not sure about this as i havnt come across many of these profile rims and tyres. Also, Michelin does not have 13 inch in XM1 series. And people, always keep in mind, upsizing leads to loss in ride quality even though it leads to gain in handling. So the bigger the upsize, the more your behinds will feel our roads. Most cars are happy with a +1 upsize, meaning that you can go 1 inch bigger. Eg. Alto has 12 inch rims, so 13 inch should be ok. +1 upsize is a balance between loss in ride comfort and proportionate gain in handling performance. *The higher you go after +1, the higher the loss in ride comfort as proportionate to the VERY marginal* gains in handling. Hope this helps people who are confused and want to go in for those huge bling bling rims. Remember, huge rims and almost negligent rubber are a fad in other countries simply because their roads are super-smooth. Our roads eat up suspensions for snacks, so you know how your butt will feel Another thing to note is that the bigger the upsize, the more overtime your suspension and other parts of the car will put in to cope with it. This will not only lead to higher wear and tear of mechanical parts but also bigger maintainance and repair bills & the thicker the tyre, the lower the fuel efficiency*. HOPE THIS HELPS A LOT OF PEOPLE IN UNDERSTANDING WHAT UPSIZING/UPGRADING IS ALL ABOUT. I guess ill be starting a new thread soon about the do's & dont's and implications and pros & cons about upsizing/upgrading very soon. Last edited by Xehaust : 18th February 2008 at 01:54.*
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