26th March 2008, 10:36
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PS: Sometimes its the joy of sharing in this passion with you guys that to me is more precious than the automobiles  By the way are these two pictures not of the same car?   | |
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26th March 2008, 10:44
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By the way xoticars here has a mindboggling collection of books and magazines too, am waiting for him to start posting Infact the first time I actually met him leisurely and was allowed the privilege of visiting his home to see his collection I was dumbfounded as to the sheer amount of effort he has put in to build an automotive library and the vast amounts of money it would have taken him to do so.Stellar effort Ajit!! Not many people take it to where you've taken the hobby. Last edited by DKG : 26th March 2008 at 10:51. | |
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26th March 2008, 12:20
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| Attachment 3757 Clicked this beauty at the Atria Mall in Mumbai. They would not allow me to get inside to click and told me to click from outsied if I wished to do so and am glad I did. Can someone identify this model please. Last edited by magiceye : 26th March 2008 at 12:24. |
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26th March 2008, 12:48
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EDIT - This should make for interesting reading. http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/indian...e-phantom.html Last edited by karlosdeville : 26th March 2008 at 13:07. | |
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26th March 2008, 13:05
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| Thank you so much karlosdeville |
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26th March 2008, 13:33
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| Distinguished - BHPian | Here are some Ive come across. Fali Dhondhys super 20hp. Im told this car was rebuilt from scratch with many missing bits.     Another 20hp spotted in Calcutta.   This 20/25 was in Hyderabad for many years, black in colour. My cousins would play in it as kids, living next door. Now in Bombay.  Vijay Mallyas Silver Ghost (?) at a Pune rally, 2003. His other convertible Ghost is visible in the Rolls Rally link I posted earlier. I believe he also owns this Phantom 3. Can anyone confirm this?    |
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26th March 2008, 15:57
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| Distinguished - BHPian | An important name to mention in a Rolls thread is Yohan Poonawala. Here are a few of his Rollers. 1937 Phatom III when freshly restored. She now sports whitewalls and has lost the disc wheel-covers. The queer steering wheel should be original, as Ive seen a couple more as well. The dash appears to be a locally redone job. The car was originally a hardtop, with the cabrio conversion done later in India. Im told there was a British gent in Calcutta (?) who was well known for cutting up these classics, and this was one of them. Just telling you what i was told, cant confirm it.       This 20/25 has just completed a restoration.    This Silver Cloud was a recent addition. Came from Delhi. Im told the car was a more recent import to India.   Im sure there are more on their way awaiting restoration, and Im not counting the 2 Shadows, the Spur, and the 1st new Phantom in India. |
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26th March 2008, 18:22
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| Rolls-Royce 20hp direct sales of cars to India Maharajah of Kashmir 1925 GPK 20 Eng. No. G1391 Barker Tourer 1927 GXL 7 Eng. No. C8Y Windovers Limousine 1929 GLN 39 Eng. No. T7K Thrupp and Maberly Tourer Maharajah of Gwalior 1923 71 A6 Eng. No. G431 Barker Cabriolet 1923 GAK 25 Eng. No. G858 H.J. Mulliner Allweather Maharajah of Bharatpur. 1923 66 H3 Eng. No.G331 Barker barrel tourer (the car I spent 5 years restoring in Delhi). 1925 GPK 33 Eng. No. G1365 Saloon by G. Wylder 1925 GSK 15 Eng. No. G1364 Cabriolet by Windovers 1928 GTM 17 Eng. No. J3T Weymann saloon Maharajah of Jaipur 1923 GAK 60 Eng. No. G902 Barker Tourer Maharajah of Jodphur 1923 GH 73 Eng. No. G842 Barker Landaulette 1923 GRK 69 Eng. No. G1074 Barker Coupe 1924 GLK 21 Eng. No. G1174 Barker Tourer Maharajah of Patiala 1922 42 G2 Eng. No.G128 Barker tourer 1923 54 S1 Eng. No. G132 Barker tourer 1923 87 K6 Eng. No. G560 H.J. Mulliner Cabriolet 1923 88 K5 Eng. No. G589 Hooper tourer 1923 GA 60 Eng. No. G624 Hooper D.H.Coupe 1923 GAK 80 Eng. No. G917 H.J. Mulliner Cabriolet 1925 GPK 8 Eng. No. G1355 Barker two Seater 1928 GKM 77 Eng. No. M7Q Park Ward Tourer 1928 GFN 1 Eng. No. F2X Windovers Sedanca P M of Patiala 1924-5 GLK 53 Eng. No. G1217 Steuart Tourer (coachbuilders in Calcutta) Maharaj Rana of Dholpur 1924 GLK 67 Eng. No. G1220 Hooper Tourer Maharajah of Alwar 1923 GMK 32 Eng. No. G946 Barker coupe 1923 GRK 44 Eng. No G1048 H.J.Mulliner Cabriolet Maharajah of Nabha 1923 68 H5 Eng. No. G366 Hooper tourer Maharajah of Cooch Behar 1929 GEN 47 Eng. No. H9W H.J. Mulliner D.H. Coupe Maharajah of Rajpipla 1922 40 G1 Eng. No. 101 Landaulette by Windovers (1st production car sold) Maharajah of Udaipur 1923 42 G0 Eng. No. G121 Barker tourer 1923 64 H9 Eng. No. G349 Barker tourer 1923 GAK 43 Eng. No. G630 Barker cabriolet Maharajah of Kutch 1923 GA 4 Eng. No. G591 H.J.Mulliner cabriolet Maharajah of Dinajpur 1924 GMK 63 Eng. No. G997 Stewart Two Seater Maharajah of Mayurbhanj 1924 GDK 4 Eng. No. G1086 Barker Landaulette 1925 GPK 18 Eng. No. 1352 H.J.Mulliner Cabriolet Maharajah of Banswara 1925 GPK 6 Eng. No. G1337 Barker Tourer Maharajah of Nawanagar 1927 GAJ 52 Eng. No. A6A Barker Tourer 1927 GRJ 80 Eng. No. O2M Thrupp and Maberly Tourer Maharajah of Burdwan 1927 GAJ 81 Eng. No. W4E Hooper Tourer Maharajah of Surguja 1924 GRK 53 Eng. No. G1049 Cockshoot Tourer Raj Rana of Dhrangadhra 1923 79 A9 Eng. No. G507 Barker Cabriolet Raja of Bobbili 1923 GH 26 Eng. No. G806 Simpson Landaulette Raja of Sarangarh 1923 GAK 39 Eng. No. G859 Barker Tourer Nawab of Bhopal 1923 53 S6 Eng. No. G182 Barker Landaulette 1923 65 H9 Eng. No. G322 Barker Cabriolet Nawab of Rampur 1923 67 H7 Eng. No. G393 Barker Limousine Nawab of Bahawalpur 1923 81K2 Eng. No. G495 Barker Tourer Nawab of Hyderabad 1923 85K6 Eng. No. G557 Hooper two seater Nawab of Sachin 1927 GRJ1 Eng. No. W8E Barker Tourer Nawab Moinud Dowla 1923 66 H9 Eng. No. G361 Barker Tourer Nawab of Savanur 1923 GMK 59 Eng. No. G992 Mann Egerton tourer Ruler of Nandgaon 1927 GAJ 19 Eng. No. E4V Barker Tourer Sir N.N. Wadia 1923 GF 35 Eng. No. G690 Barker Landaulette Sir Hormasji Wadia 1923 85 K0 Eng. No. G505 Barker Tourer Sir David Ezra 1927 GAJ 23 Eng. No. I 9 R T. H. Gill Landaulette Col. A.B. Minchin 1925 GPK 71 Eng. No. G1368 Barker Tourer Maj. H. G. Vaux 1924 GMK 60 Eng. No.G991 Barker Cabriolet K.C. Lakrawalla 1922 43 G5 Eng. No. G140 Windovers Tourer Dinshaw and Sorabjee 1923 59 S3 Eng. No. G300 Two Seater V. J. Chetty 1923 62 H9 Eng. No. G383 Barker Limousine Dr. Rangachary 1923 68 H2 Eng. No. G370 Barker Tourer T.Ross 1923 72 A2 Eng. No. G365 Barker Tourer M. Jugaldas 1923 79 A2 Eng. No. G494 Hooper Tourer C.W. Tosh 1923 GA 51 Eng. No. 648 J.Croall D.H.Coupe G. E. Langley 1924 GAK58 Eng. No. G903 Barker D.H. Coupe B.J. Desai 1924 GMK 5 Eng. No. G905 Barker Tourer T. M. Thaddeus 1926 GZK 14 Eng. No. G1654 Barker Landaulette Mrs. G. Gubbay 1925 GYK 85 Eng. No. G1898 Barker Cabriolet J. R. Booth 1927 GAJ 42 Eng. No. A 5 Z Hooper Tourer Extracted from the complete 20hp sales list in The Rolls-Royce Twenty by J. Fasal |
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26th March 2008, 20:10
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| Distinguished - BHPian | I wonder how many from that list are on this thread? Anyways, more that I saw at various rallies. This Kellner bodied Phantom 1 (?) belongs to a yesteryears actress, I think its Mumtaaz. (Whoever is Fardeen Khans Mother in law). It used to be owned by one Parsi gentleman named Bhatena, who was at a senior position at the RTO. Incidentally, his sons Aspi (of Car India and Bike India fame), Percy, Sorab and Sherry are all fully into cars and bikes professionally, being pro racers at some point or the other. Some stories Sorab has given me!   This Mulliner bodied Wraith made a couple of appearences at Pune rallies.     I spotted this supremely original Wraith at a Bombay Rally. Im told it is in long term ownership with one Mr Jamshedji, and it is the very same car that was used in the Autocar road test back in the day when new.    Last edited by karlosdeville : 26th March 2008 at 20:12. |
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26th March 2008, 21:01
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| Rolls-Royce Phantom I direct sales to India Maharajah Bahadur of Jammu and Kashmir 1927 June 106DC Open tourer by Windovers 1928 Dec 75UF Limousine by Windovers 1928 Oct 34AL Open tourer by Windovers 1928 17EX Phantom 1 car, purchased in 1929 Maharajah of Poonch 1925 Sept. 37MC Barker Open Tourer 1925 Dec 18HC H.J. Mulliner Limousine Maharajah of Patiala 1925 July 38MC Barker Open Tourer 1926 Nov 21YC Hooper Open Tourer 1929 Mar 74WR A. Mulliner Limousine Maharajah of Bharatpur 1925 Aug 2RC Barker Cabriolet 1926 Feb 51RC Windovers Saloon 1926 Feb 70RC Windovers Coupe Maharajah of Mysore 1925 Oct 4RC Barker open Two Seater 1927 Feb 110YC Hooper Cabriolet Maharajah of Kotah 1925 Dec 10RC Hooper open Tourer 1925 Oct 23RC Barker Open Tourer Maharajah of Vizianagram 1925 Oct 16HC Windovers Open Tourer 1927 Jan 93YC Windovers Allweather 1927 May 1EF Barker Open Tourer Maharajah of Jaipur 1929 Jan 36WR Barker Open Tourer 1929 July 46OR Barker Limousine Maharajah of Alwar 1926 Jan 40HC H.J. Mulliner Cabriolet Maharajah of Jodhpur 1926 Feb 9LC Barker Boat tail Two Seater 1927 Dec 94RF Windovers Limousine Maharajah of Mayurbhanj 1926 Dec 63TC Hooper Open Tourer 1926 Nov 109TC Windovers Limousine Maharajah of Dinajpur 1927 April 41NC H.J. Mulliner Allweather Maharajah of Darbhanga 1927 June 43EF Hooper Open Tourer Maharajah of Rajpipla 1927 April 55EF Elkington Coupe de ville 1929 Jan 27WR Windovers Limousine Maharajah of Udaipur 1927 June 100EF Hooper Open Tourer Maharani of Baroda 1928 March 71RF A. Mulliner Landaulette 1928 March 75EH A. Mulliner Landaulette Rajah of Pilhapuram 1927 Aug 57EF Hooper Open Tourer Maharajah of Bhavnagar 1928 Sept 60AL Barker Open Tourer Maharajah of Nanpara 1928 Aug 18AL Windovers Open Tourer Rajah of Nanpara 1926 Sept 6YC Windovers Open Tourer Rajah of Chota Udepur 1926 Sept 15YC Hooper Open Tourer Rajah of Pithapuram 1928 Sept 85AL Barker cabriolet Thakore Sahib of Palitana 1928 March 9EH Barker Open Tourer Nawab of Bahawalpur 1925 Nov 39MC Hooper Two Seater Tourer 1927 Feb 92YC Barker Limousine Nawab Wali Ud Dowla 1926 July 71DC Barker Open Tourer Nawab Moin Ud Dowla Bahadur 1927 July 64EF Hooper Open Tourer 1929 Nov 74OR Barker Sedanca de Ville Nawab Lutfud Dowla Bahadur 1929 Jan 93WR Barker cabriolet Ruler of Bhopal 1925 Sept 97MC Hooper Cabriolet Ruler of Nandgaon 1928 June 80FH Barker Open Tourer Sir Manekji Dadabhoy 1928 Mar 27EH Hooper Limousine de Ville Sir Dhunjibhoy Bomanji 1928 April 45EH Hooper Landaulette 1928 Mar 52EH Hooper Limousine Bombay Stock 1926 Jan 45LC Hooper Open Tourer Extracted from complete sales listing in Rolls-Royce The Derby Phantoms by Lawence Dalton |
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26th March 2008, 21:37
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| Distinguished - BHPian | Delhi-ites might recognise this royal looking Phantom 3. EDIT - there is a Silver ghost armoured car at the Tank Museum in Ahmednagar, apparently in very sorry state. I hope to visit the place sometime soon, will get you some photos. A very significant car that! Last edited by karlosdeville : 26th March 2008 at 21:39. |
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26th March 2008, 22:08
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| Lovely Photos Karl again, I think the Silver Coud II came from Delhi also? If it is the one I remember I serviced it for more than 10 years. The Phantom III I think is well known here, I did restore the carburettor and set up the distributors and changed the prop shaft coupling but it got moved and then sold before I could finish the job! Keep the photos coming. I hope my lists aren't disturbing the flow of photos PII, PIII and W.O. Bentley lists to come. |
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26th March 2008, 22:13
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26th March 2008, 22:51
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| Senior - BHPian | Great pictures Karlos. That Kellner bodied RR is awesome. |
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26th March 2008, 22:53
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| Ok once you're used to them, grabbing at thin air   Are you sure that steering wheel is original? Look at the special curves of the lower photo the PIII wheel looks like they've chopped a lump out |
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