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Hyundai is gearing up to enter the mass-market EV segment in 2025 with the Creta EV. The electric SUV will be positioned below the Kona Electric and will compete with the MG ZS EV and the upcoming Maruti eVX.
According to the latest reports, the Creta EV could get a 45 kWh battery sourced from LG Chem. This means it is likely to get a smaller battery pack compared to its rivals. Maruti is expected to offer two battery options on the eVX: 48 kWh and 60 kWh, while the MG ZS EV uses a 50.3 kWh unit.
It has also been reported that the Creta EV will use the same electric motor that powers the Kona Electric. The front-mounted electric motor is said to produce 136 BHP and 255 Nm.
The Creta EV will be based on the upcoming Creta facelift. The latter will debut on January 16, 2024.
Source: Autocar India
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Hyundai India has sent a ‘Block Your Date’ invitation for January 16, 2024, which has led to speculations that it could be for the unveiling of the Creta facelift.
The Hyundai Creta facelift made its debut at GIIAS 2021 in Indonesia. The SUV gets a Tucson-inspired design featuring a large Parametric Jewel grille with integrated daytime running lights and the main headlamp clusters positioned lower down on the front bumper.
The Creta is also likely to borrow design cues from the Exter. Spy images have revealed H-pattern lights similar to those on the compact SUV.
The updated Creta is likely to get several changes on the interior as well. The SUV could get a redesigned dashboard with dual 10.25-inch screens similar to the Seltos.
The Hyundai Creta facelift could carry forward the same powertrain options as the updated Kia Seltos. These include 1.5-litre petrol and diesel engines along with a 1.5-litre turbo-petrol unit.
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BHPian Col Mehta recently shared this with other enthusiasts.
Alright, so a fortnight after replacing the fuel pump, our car experienced another breakdown. We are completely shocked by this development! The HASS has confirmed that it's the fuel pump failure again, and this time it happened within just two weeks. HASS appears to be clueless by this situation and is currently awaiting the arrival of the replacement part, which might take a few more days.
We're considering escalating this issue to Hyundai's attention so that they can investigate with their vendor. It's worth noting that we've consistently refueled at reputable fuel stations and never encountered any problems with them in our previous or current vehicles.
I want to believe that it's happening due to the mindless ethanol blending, but two consecutive failures have significantly shaken our confidence in Hyundai's reliability. Experts, please pitch in. Thanks!
Here's what BHPian bjims had to say on the matter:
I really can't believe that the fuel pump failed again, that too in no time, there is certainly something wrong, either with the car, components, or the fuel.
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Tata Harrier facelift
Kia Seltos
Hyundai Creta
What you'll like:
What you won't:
Mahindra XUV700
What you'll like:
What you won't:
MG Hector
Jeep Compass
What you'll like:
What you won't:
Jeep Compass 4x2 AT First Drive & Preview
Link to Report - The Trailhawk
Here's what BHPian Buzzy_Boy had to say on the matter:
Voted for the Seltos. The XUV 700 is not bug free yet. Over 23 years of car ownership, and over 14 lakh KMs, this is our only mainstream vehicle that has failed to start (multiple times). This is also the first vehicle where I've gotten a check engine light (also multiple times)
This is some achievement as we also owned the infamous Indica, Indigo twins at some point.
I suspect that the Harrier would also not be niggle free. Peace of mind is an important feature of car ownership.
Here's what BHPian gauravdgr8 had to say on the matter:
Had it not been the facelifted Harrier with the updated ADAS, it would have been the facelifted Seltos. With top rated safety and styling, it's gotta be the Harrier.
Why not the XUV700. Simply because I don't need the third row, and the AX5 skimps on features.
Compass, Creta - no features
Hector - Too much buzz around the company's viability in India till JSW finalizes buying a stake
Here's what BHPian Gupts007 had to say on the matter:
As much as the home grown brands have improved over the years and worked hard to give us vehicles that we would have never dreamt a few years ago that they would be able to deliver to us one day, I am still circumspect when buying any of the Tata and/or Mahindra vehicles. Their cars look good and with a generous dose of gimmicky features thrown in. However when you look deeper under the skin, a lot of it looks like makeup to me. Makeup that will come off one day during the long term vehicle ownership. A lot of them have tacky stuff and ergonomic oversights which I feel should have never overlooked in the first place.
For the lack of a better word, I feel they lack the 'finesse' that the Japanese and their Korean counterparts provide.
For these reasons, I will stick with a Toyota, Maruti and in the 2nd rung with a Kia, Hyundai or lastly a Jeep.
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BHPian Artyom recently shared this with other enthusiasts.
Overall this time I felt the service center was trying to mint money as much as possible by doing the least. Had I not pointed out the errors they would have easily fooled a customer by performing substandard service. Although they did give some 500 INR discount on the bill, this time I felt the quality of service was not at par. Maybe next time I will try Trident Hyundai centers.
ECU Upgrade
Battery leak on Transmission
Engine Oil before Replacement
Shell 0W30 which is now default for Fully Synthetic Engine Oil Replacement
Shell 5W30 which has been in all the previous services
Battery HC receipt
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BHPian Nonstop-driver recently shared with other enthusiasts.
Hi BHPians, I'm currently driving a 2017 Creta SX AT Diesel with the ODO reading 56,000kms. I'm currently based in National Capital Region which caps the life of diesel cars at 10 years, which means my car is due for a replacement in 2027, or about 3.5 years from now.
The original plan was to replace this one with a similar car towards end of 2026.
Yesterday, I came across a post in our society group where a 2021 MG Hector Plus Petrol CVT (6 seater) is available for sale with 17,000kms on the ODO. The vehicle has 5 year comprehensive maintenance package along with an accessories package installed by MG. Also, its very well maintained. The owner is selling the vehicle because he's moving abroad.
I have never purchased a pre-worshipped vehicle in my life. This was never the plan but this lateral upgrade opportunity got me thinking and now I'm seeking suggestions from fellow motorheads if this makes sense.
The equation:
What I get:
What I lose:
The dilemma:
Thank you motorheads for reading my dilemma and sharing your thoughts.
Here's what BHPian yedukrishnan199 had to say on the matter:
An MG Hector Plus CVT 2021 model which has run for 17,000 km @ 17-18 lakhs is a good deal, provided the car is in good condition, you will surely get 8 to 10 lakhs on your Creta if you are patient and wait for the right buyer,as I have seen even Spinny and Cars24 offer around 8 lakhs for your model.
A few things to consider are the fact that the MG Hector Plus CVT is quite a bulky car running on a 1451 cc engine producing just 141 hp and 250 nm of torque which might feel a bit underpowered considering the fact that you are coming from a lighter Creta which produced 126 hp and 265 nm of torque.
The MG isn't frugal at all and would return mileage mostly in single digits. If you can live with these facts, then going for the MG Hector Plus CVT would be a good decision.
Here's what Sufficient-shop had to say on the matter:
Adding to what Yedukrishnan mentioned above, the desire to sell the 2017 Creta sounds good considering you are in NCR. Its value will only depreciate faster as years pass by.
But not sure about pre-owned (or pre-worshipped as you mention) cars. Unless it's someone whom you can trust, I'd suggest you stay away from spending 8+ lakhs, especially for a Hector.
Considering you have an overall budget of ~20L, why not look at new cars in the same segment like the new 2023 Seltos or just wait a bit for the Creta facelift expected to come in Jan 2024?
Here's what BHPian bijims had to say on the matter:
If you are in the market for a 6/7 seater SUV under 30 lakhs, there are hardly a handful of options to choose from, with the Mahindra Scorpio-N, Mahindra XUV700, Tata Safari, Hyundai Alcazar, and MG Hector Plus, your only options.
If you are planning to go with petrol, all of the above are fuel guzzlers, and if you like the overall looks, performance, and feature set of the MG Hector Plus, there is nothing to worry about, follow your heart and go for it. If you get it for 17 lakhs, I personally think it is a good price for the model, provided it is in good condition.
Here's what BHPian mayannk had to say on the matter:
As you said, mileage is not in the equation. In that case, the hector would be a good buy.
Additionally, since it's not really fixable outside, you can easily check for issues logged with MG for your specific car. The ownership is very peaceful, and the lack of power is only evident for about the first few days. But it's such a luxurious and comfortable place to be in, you'll soon forget about everything else that may be lacking. Mainly the kmpl and the looks. In any case, the plus looks better than the 1st gen 5 seater.
Here's what BHPian rnair had to say on the matter:
To me this is a no brainer. I really don't see a problem in you upgrading from a 2017 model Creta to a 2021 Hector. Its both economically viable and also sensible. Though I am not a big fan of Hector, I feel it is definitely an upgrade from a 2017 Creta. Buying a pre owned car is no longer a big matter of concern provided you buy it from a known source. Moreover the car you are mentioning will also be in warranty. Pre owned cars are the flavour of the season. You can see this from the insane resale values these days compared to a couple of years ago. If you've seen the car and you like it, you should go ahead and move it to your garage!
Note: I am saying this keeping the Hector as the only option!
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BHPian Col Mehta recently shared this wi6th other enthusiasts.
I'm struggling to find the right words, but my trust in NA engines being dependable has been shaken. Here’s why:
Our 1.5 NA IVT unexpectedly experienced a breakdown while we were on the road. It began with significant juddering, ultimately leading to the car stalling. Fortunately, the traffic was heavy, and we were moving at a speed of no more than 10kmph, preventing any accidents. However, if this had happened at a higher speed, the outcome could have been much more dangerous. This situation raises serious safety concerns!
We tried cranking it couple of times, but to no avail. Called RSA via Bluelink and it connected us with a representative almost immediately. A technician was allotted to inspect the car who reached at the spot within 30 min. After inspection, he declared fuel pump failure, exactly what we were dreading!! The car was towed to a HASS and now awaiting fuel pump to be replaced which will take a few days time.
Witnessing our car being towed away in this manner was truly disheartening. With over four decades of driving experience, including some highly unreliable vehicles, this is a situation I've never encountered before. I'm deeply disappointed, but uncertain about where to place the blame – whether it's the ethanol-blended fuel, the product quality of Hyundai, or a combination of both. Even the manager at the HASS couldn't provide an explanation for why this occurred.
I'm beginning to think that fuel pump failures may not be strongly tied to the engine type, as we've seen both NA and turbo engines experience these issues. The uncertainty surrounding ethanol blending, whether it's E10 or E20, is also concerning. It's frustrating for us car owners to endure the consequences of unclear policies and their inconsistent implementation, alongside the declining quality of modern vehicles. One would expect that with advancing technology, cars should become more reliable, but the reality seems to be quite the opposite. While advanced technology can bring complexity, being stranded on the road is unacceptable. Perhaps it's a result of cost-cutting and the choice of cheaper components for manufacturing. Whatever the cause, it's a deeply unsatisfactory consumer experience, leading to a loss of confidence in both modern cars and blended fuel technology.
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BHPian naveen.raju recently shared this with other enthusiasts.
After some highway drives when I got the car, we noticed the cabin did get hot especially due to the direct sunlight from the front. Got Garware Silver 70 installed on all windows except the front. After installing this, the cabin felt relatively cooler. But the mid-day drives were hot thanks to the lack of film on the front windshield. After adding the magnetic shades, it felt better but the idea of adding film on the windshield was still undecided.
Fast forward to August 2023 - I could really feel the cabin to be hot since I have an open parking at office. It tends to get so hot that the phone holder gets dislodged due to the heat. That’s when I decided to get films for the windshield. The obvious choice was 3M but have heard some issues with Fastag not being detected and to be frank, I didn’t research on it a lot. Couple of my friends got Saint Gobain SolarGard installed and they were happy with it. I saw the cars and it was almost transparent.
I had two options:
Decided to go with the second option which was the “Ultra Performance Plus 80”. Confirmed with the shop owner and decided to remove my old films, get the new films installed on all windows (Side, rear and front).
Initial impressions:
Here are some pictures of the sunfilm:
The old Garware films:
The new films:
The real test came few weeks later in the form of a drive to Pondicherry (More on the sun film later on). We decided to leave on Sunday to beat the weekend rush in Pondicherry and it was a good decision. Started at 4.30am from Cochin, took the usual route and reached Pondicherry at around 12.30pm. Traffic in Kerala was heavy for a 4.30am start. Cochin to Salem was an easy drive but found Salem to Pondicherry a bit tiring. Although the road conditions were good, found it to be bumpy and those single lane roads were a pain with those plastic barricade sort of thing preventing you from overtaking. Also the last stretch to Pondicherry (around 10-15kms) was super crowded and the roads were not that great. Traffic inside Pondicherry was really bad with two wheelers coming from all directions. The cops were least bothered as well. We stayed near Heritage Town as our main agenda was to explore the eateries in and around White Town.
Here are some of the restaurants that we tried:
We started back on a weekday at 9.30am and reached Cochin at night after numerous breaks. Coming back to the sun films - It was a great addition. Normally we could feel the heat when we go to Bangalore and always had the ACC set at 22 degrees min. This time, it was 24 degrees throughout the journey and few times, my wife asked me to switch it off as well during our drive back to Cochin. Completed the trip with half tank to spare.
A parting picture:
Odo stands at around 883XX kms.
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BHPian Roark recently shared this with other enthusiasts.
I recently installed the IPH Bi-Led 3 Colour Projector Fog Lights.
If I understand it correctly, there are 2 ways one can install a Projector Fog Lights in the new Creta. When I had a long discussion with Amit Sawhney from Blaze he send me the below photo of how a projector Fog Light could be integrated in the Fog Light Housing:
But then that required a lot of running around on my part to get the install done. Also, was not too sure, if that would have kept the warranty intact. If I am not mistaken, OEM halogen bulb and the reflector housing would have to be taken apart and there would have been some cutting and chopping of the Fog Light Housing involved. I just wasn't ready for that.
Not to mention the person Amit Sawhney had indicated in Mumbai was located at Mira Road and he just wasn't willing to quote a figure for the job.
So thought of going for the simple solution of just replacing the Fog Halogen Bulbs with DHC F75 LED Headlamps - 75W. Got the pair for 5,900/- all inclusive. Perhaps 150W is a bit of an overkill but then as of yet not tested the lights out - just installed it in the evening. So lets see. Hopefully it would brighten up the road at nights!!
Next, I wasn't too sure, now how to go about installing the IPH Projector Fog Lights. Post a lot of deliberation and discussion internally (within myself and with the missus) thought of going ahead and doing it in a traditional way. Cutting out a recess at the bottom of the front bumper and setting up a completely separate wiring and a button inside - so as to not mess around with the OEM wiring and install.
Boy, but was it difficult to see a brand new car being taken apart in this way and then summarily cut and mutilated. The taking apart of the front bumper by these installers isn't a very happy scene. The pulling, tugging and yanking of the front bumper and the heart was pounding away. I just felt that one wrong tug here or a strong pull there and the entire front bumper might just deform if not tear and then not fit properly. Thankfully nothing of that sort happened (though the front bumper has been attached well and seemingly there are no gaps within the panels but then post a long drive only will get to know if the panels are attached perfectly)
The installer then took out a round file and then a flat file and went about creating a recess - cutting, chopping, scratching away to glory. Whew! Seriously, it's a new car - not even a month old:
Anyways, post cutting the recess, he fitted the two projectors neatly in to the holes cut - and fastened then at one end by a pair of screws and the other end by mechanics-and-installers-fastening-weapon-of-choice i.e. zip ties:
Well, to be honest, the projectors were quite sturdily in place and didn't seem like they would move. The wiring etc and the button inside (simple tick tock one) was quite well done. This entire install costed me about 1,700/- or so
So this is how the install looks like. Just had it done in the evening, so am not too sure how the results look like or how the throw/quality of the lights are. Also, will have to check the levelling too. All in good time over the next month or so:
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