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My experience upgrading to Blaupunkt LED bulbs on my Nexon EV

As an icing on the cake, the accessory guy made sure I waited for an hour just for the bill and ensured that I paid more than the MRP printed on the box.

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Thanks to feedback from fellow members Carlover86 and Fusionbang on the LED upgrade - I headed over to Adi Shakti Tata showroom which was next door to my office in Hebbal and boy did I regret it! In hindsight should have stuck with Prerana motors

Got myself this Blaupunkt 55W 6000K LED bulbs for my low beam and decided to leave the high beams on factory halogens. These are rated at 5500 Lumens brightness per bulb.

My Nexon EV Max comes with a projector setup on low beams and a traditional reflector setup for high beams and TATA has made it very easy to change bulbs on these. All that the technician needs to do is open the caps behind the headlight and remove the clip holding old bulb and insert the new leds with the plate in same position and close the cap. No need to worry about polarity of electrical plug as well and it can be plugged in either ways.

The technicians at Adi Shakti were first not sure which was low beam and which one was high beam till I pointed it out to them, I should have taken the cue and scooted from there at this point, once that was figured out they removed the back cover and proceeded to install the LED. They had only one thing to ensure and that was to keep the LED bulb vertical and Blaupunkt has even tried to make this dummy proof by instructing to just make sure that the bulb wire comes out at the bottom which will in turn ensure that the bulb is vertical but these technicials just pushed and shoved the bulb in without a care and called it a day. Requested them to check the light once on their alignment board and they asked me what was that! In between all this they managed to drop one of the light covers between the engine bay and they had to remove few screws of undercover to retrieve and they fixed it back without the washers and now I am getting noises from there when on rough roads!

As an icing on the cake the accessory guy made sure I waited for an hour just for the bill and ensured that I paid more than the MRP printed on the box and when questioned they happily added a labour cost related to Tata punch for the difference amount and made me go my way.

After all this, this is what I have when I checked in the dark

Dark spots/patches in front of right headlight and assymetrical throw between left and right

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1 year & 6,500 km with my Nexon EV Max: Pros, cons & real world range

300+kms on a full charge is easily doable under any traffic conditions.

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Update at 1 year/6500kms:

Usage and positives:

  • The car is serving well as a city beater car and my wife has started to use it more often as well - this one is proving to be a perfect city car to ferry kids around and go about your errand drives without having to worry about anything.
  • 300+kms on a full charge is easily doable under any traffic conditions.
  • 100% Bangalore city usage. This is strictly used in city limits only and XUV700 does the duty on highways.
  • Trip B stands at 6200+kms now with an overall efficiency of 115Wh/km.
  • The car is always charged from ~20% to 100% with the 7kw charger at home and it takes about 4-5 hrs to charge - continues to be super convenient in terms of charge frequency and duration for my usage. It was DC fast charged only once just to test and ensure there were no surprises there.
  • AC always on, tyre pressures maintained between 34-35 psi always, City mode, I keep flipping between Regen level 1 and 2.
  • Excellent audio quality.
  • No rattles or squeaks so far.
  • Driving for long hours in peak Bangalore traffic does not stress you at all.
  • Fun to drive. Everytime there's a bit of an open road and the kiddo goes - papa, sports mode pleeeeease
  • Extremely low running cost.

Additions:

  • Added JKTreel tpms to all 4 tyres. Got a good deal at about Rs600 per sensor installed. Working well so far and super helpful in keeping an eye on the tyre pressures. The app off late has stopped coming up on Android Auto display, hope the developers fix this soon.
  • Added DDPAI Mola N3 Pro dual channel dash cam. Did a DIY installation with power coming from the 12V power supply at the front. App and cameras working well so far.
  • Wheel balancing and alignment done at TP/Madhus, was a standard affair and nothing out of ordinary.
  • Got the HVAC combi filter instead of paper pollen filter during third service, this along with AC drain pipe cleaning that I got done during 3rd service seems to have fixed the foul smell issue that I was facing for a very long time.

Niggles, Issues and things that could have been better:

  • Haven't received any call from TATA or ASC for the much talked about software update to increase the range. Enquired during my service and the folks at the service center were clueless about it. Same goes with recalls/service actions - the SA asked me to check with sales department on this
  • The car continues to lose time on the clock and goes slow. ASC seems to have no clue on how to fix this, software updates during services dint fix it.
  • Foul smell from AC, I get a strong moldy foul smell every time I start the AC and the air does not feel fresh at all. This issue has been there from a long time. Highlighted it during 3rd service and the SA said all TATA cars are like this and you should not use the car for first 5 mins after starting. Said thank you for that and asked him to clean the drain pipe and change filter at the least.
  • Fogging on windshield, there is always a thin film of mist/fog forming on the windshield and it becomes an issue with visibility during nighttime. ASC has no clue on how to check or fix this.
  • Headlights don't feel adequate on roads without streetlights.
  • Larger seats with better support.
  • Missing cupholders continue to be a big inconvenience.
  • Prefer a stick shift anyday over the slow rotary drive selector, quick U or 3 point turns always ensure I get some good stares and honks on road.
  • While ventilated seats are good, I would have preferred to have the switch to operate it somewhere on the dash or door where it is visible. Operating it while driving is just not safe or convenient + there's no way we can turn it off on the passenger side after you have dropped them.
  • The music doesn't stop when you switch off the car, it continues to play and turns off only after the drivers side door is opened and then shut. Not a big fan of this design.
  • The music doesn't stop when you unlock-open door-enter-exit-close door from passenger side, the driver side door has to be opened and shut for the music to stop.
  • 6 month servicing interval.
  • TATA ASC, Key Motors Mysore Road service center in particular.

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My Nexon EV's infotainment thinks its a Harrier: Here's why

The main reason for choosing the car is that XUV400 is too bare bones and MG's uncertainty of being in India after 5 years.

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We had picked up a Nexon Ev Max dark on August of 2023, I know its been a while but it really takes some time to know the car completely. Currently the ODO stands at 20k Kms and I hope it will cross the 50k mark in a year, Currently the range is around 280-300kms per charge. The main reason for choosing the car is that XUV400 is too barebones and MG's Uncertainty of being in India after 5 years. Our other ride is an Ameo diesel and also we had a Polo diesel, So this is our first TATA car or a car from any other brand than VW for that matter.

Ladies and gentlemen, Please welcome DURACELL to the forum! Charging somewhere in a KSEB Station in Kerala

I know these points have been discussed widely in the forum but, let me share my views:

First the Positives about the car:

  • Features Galore: Coming from a VW, everything was new, from a large touch screen to the ventilated seats, a digital instrument cluster and whatnot.
  • The Suspension feels robust and can withstand abuse unlike the VWs.
  • The Sound quality of the ICE is awesome!
  • The Performance is really great and can leave any 20Lakh car to dust at least till 100kmph.

Now the Negatives:

  • Fit and Finish issues: Coming from a VW, The difference was night and day, The panel gaps are Uneven, Paint quality is horrible, Everything basically looks good from far but horrible when you look closely.
  • Rattles: There are many rattles from all parts of the car, Our 1L km run Ameo still has zero rattles.
  • Charging Speed: The Fast charging speed should be atleast 50KW. The current 30KW is really slow in comparison.
  • The 7Kw charger is way too costly at 54k, So I made my own 7KW charger at less than half the price of the TATA one.
  • Service Shenanigans: I had some idea how this would be since friend owns a tiago and nothing beats VW Service in terms of crappiness but boy I was so wrong, They are even worse than VW. The Steering was really hard and it was really annoying to drive the car, when reported, they first acknowledged the issue and later started straight-away refusing it claiming that every car(Nexon EV) will have different steering hardness.

The other one is a bit hilarious, They just flashed Harrier's Software to my infotainment system and the car now identifies itself as a Harrier and owing to the different positions of reverse cameras in two cars, the Guidelines now point in the air. I won't blame the service center for this since the software package names are weird and its difficult for a service technician to understand them, The TATA Engineers who developed this software should have put some sort of checksum to verify if the software but I'd be really happy if they have flashed the new Nexon.ev software with youtube lol.

Reverse guidelines in the air!!

I Know There are a lot of negatives than positives, but most except the charging speed can be resolved if TATA Changes its attitude towards QC and ASCs. In Summary the Nexon EV is a great car even greater with the facelift if you look past its minor issues and if you can bear with the ASCs.

This is my first long post here, apologies for any mistakes!

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600 km roadtrip with my Nexon EV Max: Some crucial lessons learnt

Used cruise control through out on the expressway and as much as possible on the highway.

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Trip report -

Just concluded a one night trip to Jaipur. Now there nothing special about going from Faridabad to Jaipur. The distance is 260-280 kms (depending on route taken) and can be easily covered by Nexon EV Max.

Recommended route and the fast charging options

So then what is the catch? The catch is that there is a new expressway - Delhi Mumbai expressway to Jaipur and there is connector to it from Faridabad making it an ideal route to go to Jaipur. Expressways and current Indian EVs are not a good match. With the problem statement set, how to get around it?

You will be thinking here is another hypermiling in an EV story. Na, it is not. Below is how I tackled it:

Now, we started after breakfast at 9:30 AM as the previous day was Diwali Day. Now you get on to the connector to DME, the speed limit allowed is 100 kmph. So I targeted 90 kmph which is decent as per the highway. The challenge comes the moment you get on to DME, the speed limit is 120 kmph. Now I chose to start off at 90 kmph, it is slow for expressway standards but I wanted to be cautious. As the time progressed and I was content with the discharge I drove at 100 as well for some time. Reached the lunch stop on Dausa - Jaipur highway with 14% SOC left, charged to 39% while having lunch and then moved on to the hotel.

Result - Covered 281 kms in 104% SOC. 5 hrs including 1 hr lunch stop

While coming back, we left Jaipur at 2 PM and thought that we will have lunch after entering the expressway which takes around an hour to reach. We reached the rest stop with 73% SOC left, so charged to 90% while having lunch. With previous day's experience under the belt kept speed at 100 kmph for most of the expressway.

Result - Covered 286 kms in 106% SOC. Travel time - 4.5 hrs including 30 min lunch stop

Total trip was 601 kms - I spent Rs 1310 (Rs 1030 on commercial charging and Rs. 280 on home charging). That makes it Rs 2.1 per km of running cost. I didn't need a fast charger to charge my car to 100% because Fairmont had a Sunfuel type 2 charger setup, I charged my car to 100% overnight.

Used cruise control through out on the expressway and as much as possible on the highway. I have attached the zconnect graphs for both the drives.

Learning - I can drive my car at 100 kmph, if there are ample charging options within 200-220 kms of the starting point.

Discharge curve and speed graph - Faridabad to Jaipur

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11,000 km in 6 months with a Nexon EV max: My experience & total range

I was able to get 300 km plus range in city with normal driving.

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I travel between Faridabad and Noida for office. I wanted to share some things that I achieved in this week's driving to and fro from office.

I have driven my EV max 11k kms in last 6 months of ownership.

Driving style - When I drive to office - I usually keep a max speed of 70 kmph where road and traffic permit. Rest is as per traffic conditions. I use cruise control wherever possible

Parameters - Tyre pressure is set to 35 psi. AC is set to 26 at AUTO and ECON mode. Regen is set to 3 and drive mode is ECO

I was able to get 318 km range with 2% battery left. Before people roast me for draining the battery too much. I was doing a deep discharge which should be done every few months. I usually charge my car when the SOC reaches 20%

What I achieved out of this

  1. Used the full extent of the battery pack assuring me that my battery pack won't throw surprise errors at lower SOC
  2. I was able to get 300 km plus range in city with normal driving
  3. I was able to understand my car better

Was reaching 2% in day to day use a breeze? No, I was anxious when the SOC touched 5% and my home was still 15 kms away. But I had backup plan already in my mind.

Trip meter

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Tata Nexon EV: A tale of frustrating service experiences

While the car itself has proved its mettle on the road, the service woes have underscored the importance of a robust EV service ecosystem.

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The transition to electric vehicles promises a cleaner, greener future for transportation. As more automakers introduce EV models into the market, the spotlight has turned to not only the performance and features of these vehicles but also the overall ownership experience, including service quality. One such story is mine, as an owner of the Tata Nexon EV Prime, a vehicle that has shown immense potential but has been marred by service challenges.

A Joyful Start

My journey with the Tata Nexon EV Prime began with anticipation and excitement. Although not a fan of the design, the quick acceleration, running cost compared to my other ICE vehicles and promise of eco-friendly driving made it an easy choice. The driving experience itself was nothing short of delightful. I even embarked on a remarkable 1600-kilometer round trip, proving the Nexon EV's capabilities as a long-distance travel companion.

The Dark Cloud of Service Issues

However, the sheen of joy gradually wore off as I encountered a recurring issue with the vehicle's charger. The dreaded "red light" error, a well-known glitch among Nexon EV owners, became a constant companion. This glitch rendered the charging process ineffective, leading to frustrating experiences and a sense of dissatisfaction that weighed down my overall ownership journey. I got the charger replaced just 2,3 months after the vehicle delivery due to this issue hoping that it was just an issue with that specific piece. Then again after using the new charger for another 2,3 months, the error popped up again.

A Tale of Disappointment

My numerous interactions with the authorized service center for Tata Motors, exposed the deep-rooted issues in the EV service ecosystem. I faced a range of challenges that tested my patience and faith in the brand's commitment to customer satisfaction.

I reached out to the General Manager of the dealer, detailing my frustrations and disappointments in a series of emails. From failed attempts to capture the error log during charging to unplugging the charger prematurely during service center visits, the saga seemed never-ending. The unprofessional behavior and lack of empathy I encountered added to the mounting frustration.

A Call for Improvement

While my experience with the Tata Nexon EV Prime on the road was nothing short of excellent, the service-related ordeals I faced highlight the importance of a robust service infrastructure for EVs. The potential of EVs to revolutionize the automotive landscape can only be realized if customers are met with reliable, efficient, and customer-centric service experiences.

Recommendations for the Future

Tata Motors, and indeed all automakers venturing into the EV market, should consider the following steps to ensure a smoother ownership experience:

Dedicated EV Service Centers: Separate service centers for EVs can focus exclusively on the unique challenges and requirements of electric vehicles. This would ensure that skilled and trained technicians are available to address EV-specific issues promptly.

Enhanced Training: Technicians must undergo specialized training in EV systems, diagnostics, and repairs. The complexities of electric drivetrains and charging systems demand a higher level of expertise.

Collaboration with Manufacturers: Automakers should collaborate closely with their service centers to streamline issue diagnosis and resolution. Rapid communication and troubleshooting protocols can significantly reduce vehicle downtime.

Transparent Communication: Clear and transparent communication between customers and service centers is paramount. Regular updates, effective error tracking, and explanations of the resolution process can build trust and alleviate customer frustration.

Conclusion

My journey with the Tata Nexon EV Prime has been a rollercoaster ride of joyous driving experiences and frustrating service challenges. While the car itself has proved its mettle on the road, the service woes have underscored the importance of a robust EV service ecosystem. As the automotive industry continues its electrification journey, it's imperative that automakers take proactive steps to enhance the service quality for EVs. With dedicated service centers, skilled technicians, and transparent communication, the road to a seamless EV ownership experience can be paved for enthusiasts like myself.

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Tata Nexon EV facelift teased; to debut on September 7

The upcoming Nexon EV will adopt the brand's new ".ev" branding.

Tata Motors recently showcased the Nexon facelift. The carmaker has now released a teaser of the updated Nexon EV, which is set to get a similar design makeover. It will be unveiled on September 7, 2023.

The Nexon EV will also adopt a Curvv-inspired exterior and interior design. The teaser reveals a sleek LED light bar at the front, which will help differentiate the EV from the ICE version. The rear, on the other hand, might look similar, with V-shaped LEDs connected by an LED light bar.

The upcoming Nexon EV will adopt the brand's new ".ev" branding. That being said, it will be mechanically identical to the outgoing version.

The Nexon.ev will get 30.2 kWh and 40.5 kWh battery options, offering a range of up to 312 km and 453 km, respectively. While the long-range version comes with a 141 BHP electric motor, the former gets an electric motor that generates 127 BHP.

 

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1300 km coastal trip in a Nexon EV: Total time taken & charging costs

EV long trips require planning in advance and a risk appetite of being okay with getting stuck for a while.

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Coastal Road trip to Goa: EV long trips 101

Introduction

As a long weekend approached it was finally time for a coastal road trip from Kerala to Goa. Now comes choosing the car for it, Innova Crysta/Carens diesel AT came to my mind as an obvious choice. But I wanted this trip to be different, a whole new experience altogether.

Thus I chose the Nexon EV, which was used mostly as a city car.

This choice raised a few eyebrows among family members.

A quick search showed there were charging stations along the route and the trip could be done. Besides, as it was 2 bachelors going on a leisure trip, we didn't mind if we faced a few hours of downtime or if something went wrong.

Electric car road trip to celebrate Independence Day, Fantastic!

Thus the planning begins.

Planning, Risk appetite

Let me point first so that you can decide if EV long trips are for you or not:

EV long trips require planning in advance and a risk appetite of being okay with getting stuck for a while.

If either of those is a problem, then you have to steer clear of EV long trips.

Now comes the planning part

The sad reality of the Indian EV charging space is there are multiple apps that host charging stations. Tatapower, Bolt Earth, Chargezone, Statiq etc. On my phone, I have around 30 different EV charging apps. It's a huge pain to look for chargers on all the apps and keep the wallet recharged on most of them. Only the government can sort this out.

As of now, the best option is called "plugshare".

It's an open-source website/ app on which EV users themselves add charging stations on a map with other details like power, connectors available, etc. A benefit of this app is that users can add their dated reviews in the form of comments. So we understand if the charger is working or not.

Of course, this only provides a rough idea of location, to charge from there we'll have to check the app on which charger is hosted. Another benefit is its trip planner feature. It works best on a laptop and enables us to set a route to a location based on our vehicle's range and charging stops.

I'll add a few links on how to understand plugshare trip planner works from youtube.

As I started from Kozhikode, I chose the following charging stations along the route:

  • ANERT charging station, Agricultural University, Kasargod
  • Relux Charging station, Manipal Inn, Udupi
  • Jio BP charging Station, Sagar residency, Honnavar

Slow charging at the hotel, same route back.

While choosing these charging stations, I kept a few things in mind:

  • Backup chargers nearby planned charging stops.
  • Reserve charge to reach backup chargers.
  • Should have restaurants nearby

For Nexon EV Prime, I suggest to space out charging stops between 150 to 160km.

The EV drive:

Since I was traveling from Kozhikode, my 1st objective was to leave Kerala before the traffic settles in.

Kerala highways and traffic is downright horrible, there's no two ways about it. If we get stuck in traffic, the headache would be a huge mood spoiler.

So I started the trip at 4:30 Sunday morning.

Tip:

Before starting a long trip, make sure your EV is full charged or almost charged before you go to bed. The reason is, I've had a few occasions in which the car wouldn't have charged overnight due to some reason. So it's better to be safe

I've packed the EV essentials like an extension cable, a chain and lock to secure my charger, an extra earthing rod (if the slow charging point doesn't have proper earthing)

On Kerala roads, due to slight traffic and low speeds, I was using regen a lot and got really good efficiency.

After picking up my friend, we stopped at the ANERT charging station in Kasargod.

The app had a server issue and it took around 10mins to get back working again.

I plugged the car at 33 percent and charged to 80.

After having breakfast at the attached restaurant we stopped the charging session at 80%. Didn't spend any extra time for charging.

Soon we entered Karnataka and the roads opened up. Nexon's cruise was set at the legal speed limit of 80kph.

At Udupi, I took the next charging stop.

Location: Manipal Inn.

Relux charger. This charger had 2 ccs guns.

An MG and a Tigor was charging from there, they stopped charging at around 75% charge and soon I plugged in. That's called fast-charging etiquette. More about that later.

Similar to our breakfast stop, we utilized the charging time for a sumptuous lunch. Do try the Hyderabadi biriyani there, it's superb.

The charger automatically stopped charging at 85%.

We continued with the journey.

It's from this stretch the really scenic roads start.

Coconut trees on the highway side, lush greenery throughout, and many scenic river crossings. Driving the Nexon EV through these roads knowing EVs help to preserve mother nature was a good feeling.

Then came Maravanthe Beach. Oh god! how epic were the views. Ocean on one side and river on the other side of the road. It was nothing short of soul-cleansing. We stopped by to snap a few photos.

The road trip was already feeling really good. We took the final charging stop at the Jio BP charger in Honnavar. While the car charged we had a filter coffee and hot pav bhajis from the attached restaurant Sagar Residency. While we finished eating and approached the charger, a few locals gathered around our car.

The KL-registered Nexon EV in northern Karnataka sparked their interest.

Got the usual questions like cost for full cost, time to charge, on-road price etc. After a quick interaction, we unplugged and headed to Goa.

Had dinner at a Goan restaurant and went to the Air BnB we rented out.

They had a 16A wall socket there. Did a quick inspection of the wiring and made sure their MCB and RCCB (electrical safety devices) were up to mark. I used my personal Bolt lite charging point to measure electricity consumption. The car charged till full overnight and we had a well-deserved sleep.

Goa:

Since Goa was a pretty small place, we took the Nexon EV everywhere. Almost every place we went to people started asking about the EV and where we charged. There was one group of Mallu college students who were amazed and asked us if we got it here on a train!

We consumed around 40%charge during commutes inside Goa. After visiting a few places, it was time to head back. We decided to take turns driving and travel overnight.

Charged at St Regis Resort in Southern Goa, they had a charge zone charger. We took a coffee break to caffeine up for the long drive back home. Took the same route, and the same chargers, and timed it with our food breaks.

After leaving Kannur district in Kerala, the traffic went for the worst and it took almost 4 hours to travel 90 km to Kozhikode.

Really tired by driving through Kerala roads, plugged the car in had a shower, had dinner and called it a day.

Checked the trip meter the next day. 1363kms. In a Nexon EV prime. The trip meter gave me a proud feeling.

Now comes the important question: how much it cost to charge

The cost for fast charging depends on the fast charging network:

  • In Kerala the chargers I used had a tariff of around 15rs/unit and in Karnataka it was around 24rs/ unit. Slow charging at the hotel only costed 7rs/unit.
  • It's so cheap because slow charging doesn't need heavy complicated DC fast chargers.
  • Hence slow charging is the most affordable form of EV charging.
  • In every EV trip, you have to charge utilizing the time you have to spend at a place.
  • Why spend a few hours at a fast charging station when the car can get charged overnight at the property you're staying at without wasting any vacation time?

The total charging cost was Rs. 3,385.

Total energy consumption for this trip was 182 units.

The average efficiency was 7.36km/unit or 133Wh/km

That's dirt cheap.

2.48rs/km.

I think most people would have an idea on how affordable it actually is, if I convert these numbers to ICE equivalents.

At the time of writing this review, price of petrol in Kerala is 108.33rs.

So the petrol equivalent fuel efficiency for Nexon EV in this trip would be (petrol cost per litre÷running cost per km)

43.63km/litre.

This ends the debate on Hybrids/EVs which are cheaper to run.

Attaching a graph below

It's just a question of whether you are okay with the risk appetite.

Now before anyone comments about battery degradation, let me lay it out first. Battery degradation in Tata EVs is really low. I have seen many Nexon EVs which have 90% or more battery health after running for 1lakh km.

The battery health of my car is 97%, it ran 38000km to date.Tata service center laptops will show this information, however since it's not user accessible they have full right to deny your request to see the battery health.

Fast charging Etiquette

This is something all EV users should learn. Get into your mind that public charging infrastructure is for everyone, don't hog up chargers unnecessarily.

The problem is most cars charge after 85% and by 95% it's just slow charging.

If you do this 90 to 100% at a public fast charger while others are waiting, you're wasting more than half an hour of the other person's time.

The literal concept of DC fast chargers is to enable interdistrict highway long trips on EVs.

So please don't go to a charging station nearby simply because it's fast. At least have the minimum manners to unplug when someone from far away who actually needs it is waiting in line at the charging station.

I've noticed this unethical behavior the most in Kerala, the place where EV adoption is very high when compared to other states.

What is happening is that many people in Kerala are buying an EV purely because of low running cost and without understanding a thing about how it works or how to charge it properly

Once I was on a long trip and I arrived at a charging station in Kannur. The vehicle there had Kannur RTO plates. I curiously asked him if he was from this place and why he was using the fast charger. To my shock, he replied his home is just a few kilometers away and he regularly charges from here as it's very fast.

EV manufacturers should train their sales team to make EV users aware of this charging etiquette. Also charging companies should work out a system where EV users are incentivized to stop charging before 85%. Autocut off at 85%.

Higher tariffs when charging above 85% are a few measures charging companies can adopt. If the charging infrastructure doesn't grow steadily or if EV users don't learn this fast charging etiquette, EV fast charging can result in a nightmare of having to wait in a queue for hours. Also, there is a problem in govt operated charging stations in Kerala where more than 70% of the chargers are outdated and noncompatible chargers with modern cars. Go figure out how that happened!

Conclusion

So, to conclude are EVs the future? Of course yes.

Can the EVfication get messed up if not done right? Yes, that's a probability too.

So it's the collective job of the EV industry, government, and the mass public to make it work in a proper way. Cheers to more electric miles.

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Tata Nexon EV Max: 4 annoying traits noticed by an owner

I care about details; my experience with Tata so far is that they don’t.

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What’s build quality expected from Tata? So far I’ve found a number of issues, some of which I don’t even know can be fixed in service.

  • Rear parking camera doesn’t turn on every time. 30% probability of failure.
  • The horn on steering wheel takes way more effort to engage than I’d expect. It’s uneven too. Normally I’d expect with a little pressure the horn will engage but here the horn button has to travel down a lot before the horn engages. Weird!
  • The trunk doesn’t close until I slam it. The removable trunk partition seems to make it worse.
  • The wireless charger is unreliable for my iPhone 14 without case.

The round dial gear takes a little longer to change the gear than expected, which I don’t think is a defect, just poor engineering. When I turn the knob, I have wait for a split second before I can start reversing or driving forward.

Previously I posted that I had rejected a car after PDI due to external defects. I was taken to the stock yard where I wasn’t allowed to check the interiors on second PDI and thus accepted it based on exterior inspection.

What I’ve liked so far: It drives quite well. It’s zippy, easily maneuverable and fairly comfortable on bad roads and jams. Seats are comfortable and interiors look great.

I care about details; my experience with Tata so far is that they don’t.

This is experience is from the dark edition. I have a theory that Tata’s special edition cars are worse than their normal builds.

Here's what BHPian rahul1407 had to say on the matter:

Congrats on your new purchase, Wishing you many happier miles with it. Yes, Tata's attention to detail is something which would leave any person wanting more. Based on my limited 3 months ownership of the MAX, I will share my comments on the points listed below

  • It had worked fine for me except for 2-3 occasions where it blanked out. As far I remember, Toggling between P & R solved it for me, but yeah it's bad when really needed.
  • This is something you would need to get used to, it presses well from the sides and it's a tad too stiff if operated from the centre to the point of causing discomfort on prolonged usage. But honestly speaking, I find that to be better given we don't have to take our hands off the steering and its conjunction with the use of steering-mounted controls.
  • Compared with my other car which has an electrically operated boot, I did not find many issues here albeit on some occasions where the boot didn't close on soft push and I started driving only to realise this later and had to pull over to the needful.
  • Facing the same issue with my spouse's 13pro with or without case, but honestly speaking it's very unintuitive to slam a wireless charger when you cant use Apple Carplay or Android Auto wirelessly. It's just like another feature addition from a checklist to stay relevant without putting a lot of thought behind it.

Here's what BHPian chocko96 had to say on the matter:

Having had my Max for about 4 months and with almost 5k on the odo, you have echoed my exact thoughts on the car. And another very annoying problem I have been facing is the sudden drop in charge. Usually the car loses around 15% in 1-2 km of normal city driving all of a sudden. And it tends to happen in the 30's. Goes down to the teens. Since I tend to be planned with my driving, it hasn't been an issue as of now but would definitely bring on some serious anxiety if I was far away from home.

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2,000 km in 2 months with my Nexon EV Max: My experience so far

The energy efficiency and increasing charging infra definitely help contribute to the positive ownership experience, and it's only going to get better from here on hopefully.

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A 2 month, 2000 km review of the Nexon EV Max!

We have not gone on as many road trips in our 8 years in Mumbai as in these past 2 months!

This is an ownership review of Tata Nexon EV Max XZ+ Lux. We bought it this April, completed 2000 kms on our Bijli last week, and on 7th it completed its 2 months. At the risk of sounding like we are in love with it, a three-word review, "absolutely love it"

Disclaimer: this is our first car, and our total driving experience was of about two months, back in 2015! So there are no reference points really to these comments, but a first experience.

The drive: Despite being novice drivers, the smooth pickup, noiseless operations, and regen actually hooked us during the test drive. With the number of speed breakers, and general stoppages on Mumbai roads, you almost get a single pedal drive using the 'crawl' and 'regen'. The highway driving is fantastic as well. Fastest I have gone is 115km/hr, and it still felt totally in control. The sports mode, though sparingly used, really does shine.
On highways/clear roads, have been able to attain 120-130 W/km quite regularly. City driving of course is a different ball game.

The very low noise interiors are a boon in the bustling traffic of Mumbai.

Build and Exterior: Solid build. And the Intensiteal color is love at first sight!

Interiors: Look good, feel good. Have had people in the back seat for 3-4 hours at a stretch, and they could've sworn that this was one of the more comfortable rides they've taken.

The A pillars are a bit wide, and take time to get used to, especially for traffic coming from your right. Also, the viewing range can seem a bit limited between the infotainment unit and the rear view mirror. But not a deal breaker at any rate.

Functionalities/accessories: Auto-hold is now pretty standard across most cars, but it is a boon, especially when you are stuck in traffic or driving on the ghat. The best part is that you dont have to engage it every time you need it, once you do it, it remains on and comes into effect whenever the car comes to a complete stop.

The side horn on the steering wheel is so very convenient. The cruise set up takes time to get used to, though it can just be because we are new to it. The hill descent control works well on steep mall parking exits.

The sound system does very well, probably better than any other car we've been in but thats not a very big universe.

The not so good:

  • There is almost no space in the centre console, other than small armrest box. The wireless charger is a waste of space, as it is very slow.
  • You can of course get some storage organizers, which we have done, which alleviate the problem to a large extent.
  • In general the storage space is a bit underwhelming, e.g., no seat back pockets. Again, have to rely on external accessories to overcome that.
  • Wireless android auto would’ve been fantastic.
  • The USB port is a bit awkward to reach, but then you don’t have to access it everyday, you put in a cord and leave it there.
  • There is a slight lag in the drive selector dial, and it can take a few days to get used to, and you may have to listen to that one extra honk when you stop to reverse on a busy street , but again, not a deal breaker at all. It does look very good!

So far we haven't faced any issues, and long may that continue! Overall, I think the Nexon was a big part of us becoming fond of driving. It is so easy to drive that sometimes we wonder if we'll be able to drive any other car at all if we get used to this. The energy efficiency and increasing charging infra definitely help contribute to the positive ownership experience, and it's only going to get better from here on hopefully.

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