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Scoop! More dope on Nissan & Renault CMF-B SUVs for India

Renault-Nissan is also evaluating the possibility of launching a 4x4 variant at a later stage.

Last month, Renault and Nissan announced their plans to launch four new SUVs in India. These include two models based on the localized version of the CMF-B platform. We have just received new information on Renault and Nissan’s upcoming SUVs.

According to sources, Renault-Nissan aims to make these crossovers look, feel and drive like vehicles from a segment above. It is said to be the most ambitious project the brands have ever undertaken in India, with the senior management personally overseeing the development.

Unlike the Kiger and Magnite, which share the same platform, but have totally different designs, most of the sheet metal will be shared among the new CMF-B SUVs to optimize economies of scale. However, soft parts like the bumpers, grille, etc. will be different to give them a distinct visual identity. Each car will boast unique interiors while incorporating shared components.

Renault-Nissan’s new CMF-B SUVs are likely to get two turbo-petrol engine options, with as many as four gearbox options at launch. The carmakers are also evaluating the possibility of launching a 4x4 variant at a later stage.

Renault and Nissan haven’t revealed the exact launch timeline for the upcoming models. 7-seater derivates of the SUVs could also be on the cards.

Thanks to the Team-BHP fan (he prefers to remain anonymous) who sent this information in. Heartfelt gratitude for sharing it with other enthusiasts via this Team-BHP share page!

 

 

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Renault and Nissan confirm four new SUVs for India

The Renault Duster is expected to be launched in India by late 2025.

Renault and Nissan have confirmed four new SUVs for the Indian market. The carmaker plans to introduce two midsize SUVs, which include the new Renault Duster and its Nissan version. Both models will also spawn their respective 7-seater derivatives.

Renault-Nissan has released a teaser showing the upcoming SUVs in their concept form. Both models will be based on the localized version of the CMF-B platform. 

The Renault version looks quite similar to the European-spec Duster. The aggressive-looking front end features a rectangular grille flanked by slim headlamps with integrated LED DRLs. The Nissan version adopts a completely different design with L-shaped LED DRLs connected by an LED light bar and a chrome strip running across the front end.

Renault and Nissan haven’t revealed the exact launch timeline for the upcoming models. However, we can expect the Renault Duster to arrive by late 2025, followed by Nissan’s 5-seater SUV and subsequently the 7-seater iterations.

 

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Nissan confirms Duster & Triber-based models for India

The third-gen Duster will compete in the mid-size SUV space, which includes models like the Creta, Seltos, Hector, Kushaq, Grand Vitara and Toyota Hyryder.

Renault-Nissan has revealed its future product plan for India. Both carmakers will work together to introduce a range of products in the forthcoming years. These include the new Duster, a Triber-based MPV and an affordable EV.

The third-generation Renault Duster will be introduced in India by 2025. It will be based on the CMF-B modular platform and will come in 5 and 7-seater configurations. It will compete in the mid-size SUV segment, which includes models like the Hyundai Creta, Kia Seltos, MG Hector, Skoda Kushaq and the recently launched Maruti Grand Vitara and Toyota Hyryder.

It has also been reported that Nissan will offer a re-badged version of the Duster. As you may recall, Nissan has tried this strategy before. The Terrano was based on the 1st-gen Duster but wasn’t as successful as its stablemate. Besides this, the carmaker also plans to introduce its version of the Renault Triber. 

Renault and Nissan are drawing up plans for a product onslaught in the EV space as well. The brands are considering an entry-level EV based on the CMF-AEV platform. 

Source: Autocar India

 

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Issue with gear shifts on my Terrano when driving in heavy traffic

Every time we raised a concern at the service centre, we were told that this is normal for the Nissan Terrano & Renault Duster SUVs.

BHPian Akash_1806 recently shared this with other enthusiasts.

Hello Everyone,

I am having a weird issue with my daily workhorse, a 2014 Nissan Terrano XLD 85 which has now completed nearly 1,24,000 kms driven by me and my dad only.

I remember, right from the 10k kms service, my dad had complained about a hard shifting of gears to the service advisor at Neo Nissan, Sector-3, Noida but each and every time we only used to get one response that is, it is normal for Terranos and Dusters. None of our complaints against this was acknowledged by them and it is still the case now.

For the past month, I have been facing an issue with the clutch and gears. If I drive in bumper-to-bumper traffic for more than 10 mins, the clutch pedal depresses and the gears refuse to shift. Mentioned this to the service centre in the 120k kms service and without inspection, they said the clutch and pressure plates along with the master and slave cylinders need to be replaced. The estimate given is something around Rs 45,000. Got this inspected with a trusted FNG and the mech opened up the clutch and said only the cylinders need to be replaced. Also, he told us that the clutch is good for at least another 25k km.

My dad was not quite satisfied with the different findings so he got it checked at his trusted mech and he said only the slave cylinder needs to be replaced.

I am in serious doubt about what the real problem is and if this problem was mentioned to the ASC in each and every service then why didn't they look into the matter there and then?

Would request the experts to help me with what should be done next, should I get the whole clutch work done from either ASC/FNG, should get both the cylinders replaced or only replacing the slave cylinder will solve this issue.

Here's what BHPian Kosfactor had to say about the matter:

The concentric slave cylinders usually don't last this long, but they have in your case. Anyhow the ASCs will now remove most of the front suspension and lower the gearbox only to replace a slave cylinder, it won't work for them.

So they would rather overhaul the entire clutch system and then the customer also won't bother them again for the next 3-4 years at least.

You could just fix whatever is broken or you can have a new car-like feeling clutch by overhauling the entire thing.

Here's what BHPian r24x7 had to say about the matter:

We had an issue with our Lodgy 110. After 88K KMs on the ODO, we observed a similar issue where the clutch wouldn't get depressed sometimes.

While I am not sure what they diagnosed the root cause to be, we were convinced that replacement of slave and master cylinder is laborious enough to have clutch plate replacement also included.

Went ahead with replacement of all three parts: both cylinders and clutch assembly for a final bill of 25K.

PS - Entire work was carried out at Renault ASC

Here's what BHPian dhanushs had to say about the matter:

The slave cylinder failure could have happened because of the pressure plate getting hard.

It's a thin line on claiming the warranty, as the pressure plate is a wear and tear part and the slave cylinder is a warranty replacement part. If the ASS could, they could've replaced the slave cylinder for free.

Anyhow, if you plan to use the car for a long time, I'd suggest you replace the full assy.

Here's what BHPian sagarpadaki had to say about the matter:

If you have never done a clutch replacement then 1.24 lakh kms on factory fit clutch plates means the clutch would be at the end of its life if you drive in bumper to bumper and stop and go traffic predominantly.

I suggest you replace the clutch plate, pressure plate, release bearing, and slave cylinder. I do not think the master cylinder is bad. Check and replace the master cylinder on a need basis. The slave cylinder is definitely bad. Also, check the hydraulic line from the master to the slave cylinder. If it is made of rubber then replace it as well.

Your father's left knee and ankle are far more valuable than 45K rupees. I know how frustrating and hurting it is to drive a car with a hard clutch, especially in stop-and-go traffic which needs frequent gear shifts.

If you know a competent FNG garage, order the OEM parts on boodmo and get it fitted from them.

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Need a part number to rectify my Nissan Terrano AC problem

The AC doesn't cool my cabin, even though the compressor click is heard.

BHPian SideView recently shared this with other enthusiasts.

Hi all,

Let me share my little predicament before it becomes a major pain and hopefully get some help on this. I will additionally share my own research and the reason for this thread.

My vehicle: Nissan Terrano 110 PS (manufactured 2014)

Issue: My AC has been acting up lately (1+ years), issue is that during the first or second start (after a week of no usage) the AC doesn't cool even though the compressor click is heard. The funny part is if I stop the AC for some time (~10 mins) and then switch it on again it works fine and cools perfectly.

What I have done until now:

  • Took it to ASC sadly the issue was not reproducible as it comes up during the first start mostly.
  • I took it to a good AC shop (google reviews) and showed them the issue. They blindly recommended changing the compressor saying it has gone bad. I was not convinced hence left.
  • Took it to another AC shop, they had a look issue that was not reproducible again but they topped up the gas and AC filter.
  • Getting pissed with this issue, I researched on my own what could be the root cause (as this issue doesn't show any engine lights).

Was able to find some useful youtube links - 1 & 2.

I have a feeling that my issue could be due to the same eCV valve (AC compressor electronic control solenoid valve) hence wanted to explore the same. Now, this is where I am stuck.

How you can help:

  1. I went to ASC they were not ready to share the part number for this solenoid valve. But we’re willing to source it if I give in advance. Would fellow BHPians be able to identify this part number and links if any? (wasn't able to find it on Boodmo)
  2. Cost of this part. (ASC were mentioning a cost of approx Rs.4K)
  3. If you feel that I am going down the wrong rabbit hole do let me know anything else I should check. (I don't think it is relay as it works fine after my workaround mentioned above)

Pic attached for reference (not of Terrano/Duster)

I do not blindly trust ASC/FNG if they say directly to replace compressor etc, the root cause could be elsewhere.

Thanks in advance.

Here's what BHPian vishy76 had to say on the matter:

If Boodmo is to be believed, the Duster/Terrano come with a Sanden SD7V16 compressor. This compressor doesn't seem to have a pressure control valve at all to the best of my knowledge and research. It's actuated using a simple electromagnetic clutch.

You can see the only connector here going to the clutch magnet. There's no valve here.

I would start by checking the clutch mechanism again and visually see if the compressor is getting engaged when the ac button is hit. The compressor should stop freewheeling on the pulley alone and the entire shaft should be engaged. If this is happening, you should move to check the high side and low side pressures. That will give you a fair idea of what is wrong with the system.

Here's what BHPian Tgo had to say on the matter:

I had a compressor replaced on my Duster too. You can go through this post.

The compressor they gave me back after many months, which I believe was the same one on my car, was Calsonic Kansei, not Sanden. The eCV valve you mention is not or is not a serviceable part of this compressor. It is either built-in (mechanically controlled) or is not present in this model.

Usually, the electromagnetic clutch is the suspect, but in my case, the clutch was operating.

If you feel the compressor gets clicked in and also runs, there is proper high and low-pressure build-up in the circuit, correct oil and gas in the circuit, try the expansion valve which is on the evaporator (inside the dash). That is a serviceable/replaceable part that could go faulty. Sometimes it is built into the evaporator core.

They're either bluffing or want you to believe that they are helping you out and eventually want you to believe them to go for a compressor replacement.

OR

They are referring to the expansion valve only and assuming you are using different terminology for it.

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Would you switch to a sedan after owning an SUV

I own a Nissan Terrano. In case I plan on upgrading, I would like to know others' experiences who might have made the switch.

BHPian SideView recently shared this with other enthusiasts.

Currently, I drive a Terrano. One thing I like is the ride height and the overall visibility that comes with it. (Ignoring all the suspension and power aspects, etc.)

I am curious to know, would fellow BHPians consider sedans after moving to SUV?

If some of you have done it, why?

Cons I could think of for SUV: Body roll

Background:

In case I plan on upgrading, I want to know the experience of others who might have made this change. I was planning on ignoring the whole sedan segment.

Here's what GTO had to say about the matter:

Oh, I totally would. Swap between sedans & crossovers all the time, due to all the test drives. Both have their pros & cons and the handling gap has diminished because of well-tuned suspensions (Creta, Seltos, Kushaq, XUV700 etc.).

I feel that, when you have a certain budget on hand for a car, you should be open to all options + body styles. For instance, in the premium segment, cars like the Octavia / Superb offer an experience that same-price crossovers & SUVs simply don't. It's a similar case with the Mercedes C-Class segment, as well as the 5-Series, Audi A8L etc. All at a lower price than comparable crossovers.

Ideally, I'd have both - an SUV as well as a sedan in my garage.

Here's what BHPian dhanushs had to say about the matter:

I would prefer a lower seating position for a fast car that carves corners and maybe for comfortable highway cruising. For city driving, single-lane driving, overtaking and more, I would absolutely prefer a higher seating position.

Case in point. I used to have a VW Vento and a Pajero SFX. Within Kerala where all roads are single lanes, the Pajero, even though a slower car has better A-B timing with a similar driving style. Whereas outside Kerala, say, Wayanad to Bangalore, the Vento beats the Pajero by a huge margin IF traffic is less. When traffic comes into play, it's the Pajero (High Seating Position) any day!

Here's what BHPian VW2010 had to say about the matter:

I moved from life long sedan to SUV. I initially thought it was the new car effect but the high seating Ford Endeavor has made long-distance travel very comfortable, very relaxing, and very easy on the body.

I am not sure I will ever consider a sedan from this point after getting a taste of what a truck offers.

In terms of just seat position, I like the High seat position.

Here's what BHPian 84.monsoon had to say about the matter:

I constantly swap between our SUV (2020 Mahindra Thar) and German Sedan. It was weird at first, going between one of the highest seating positions to one of the lowest, on a daily basis. But it highlights the strong pros and cons of both and why, if you can have two cars at home, it would be best to have a sedan and an SUV.

On a long-distance road trip on good roads, there is simply nothing to beat the sedan. The relaxed, stretched-out seating position works wonderfully for those who do not like a strain on the back. The position is most confidence-inspiring for higher speed driving and taking the twisties, you feel so well connected to the road and body roll is so less. The sheer driving pleasure of a sedan is hard to replicate in an SUV or MUV. Plus the lower drag means much better fuel efficiency.

On the other hand, if you are going to go through bad roads with big speed breakers or crater-like depressions, or if there is much rain along the way, SUV gives you the confidence that you can go anywhere. The increased visibility is probably a boon for shorter people, though it does not make much of a difference for taller drivers like myself.

Had recently planned a long road trip out of Chennai starting early in the morning in our sedan. It rained all night and when I woke up in the morning, the roads had 6-9 inches of water. Immediately changed plans on which vehicle was to go for the trip and now the luggage was transferred to the Thar and off we went! Another time, we had arranged an Innova for my aged Aunt and family to go on a temple trip. Due to some arthritis, she found it hard to get on and off the high-set rear seat of the Innova and was worried about having to get in and out multiple times during the trip. No problem - we switched to our sedan and she was very comfortable. This is the advantage of having both a sedan and an SUV at home. Depending on the need and/or the mood, you can switch between the two.

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Tyre upgrade options for my 2014 Nissan Terrano

I have zeroed in on Bridgestone, but am open to alternative suggestions.

BHPian RedTerrano recently shared this with other enthusiasts.

My Cinderella needs new shoes and I am overwhelmed by the options.

She came with stock Apollo 215/65 in 2014

After clocking ~57,000 km (35% highway, 65% city), sadly, she is no longer well shod.

I am planning to get 4 new ones and retain the best amongst the current ones as the spare.

After surfing the forums I got (more) confused and managed to zero down on these two options (offered by a dealer in my locality).

  • Yokohama Rs 8700/- (18 months replacement warranty)
  • Bridgestone Rs 8100/- (Warranty only on manufacturing defect)

*Alignment + Balancing included.

I am leaning heavily towards Bridgestone for obvious reasons.

Anything else I need to factor in (or any other alternative I need to consider) before I get the deed done?

Here's what BHPian Nalin1 had to say on the matter:

Are you looking at the Yokohama HT or AT tyres?. I went for the HT tyres as it is supposed to be more silent on highways/open roads. They are actually and after 15,000 km they can be sold as brand new tyres after a wash. They have hardly aged and zero punctures. And they have seen the world's worst roads (Bangalore).

Here's what BHPian sandeepmdas had to say on the matter:

My 2017 Renault Duster 110 has the same OEM Apterra HL tyres. 54K km and I'm about to replace them by November 15. Haven't made any inquiries yet but my plan is to replace these with another set of Apollo Apterras. I have a very high opinion of them. This is the first time I am about to replace the OE tyre with an Indian brand, in any of my cars be it in currently-own or previously owned. Since 2004.

Take a serious look at Apollo, especially if you're not going for Yokohamas.

Here's what BHPian Pedalmasher_20 had to say on the matter:

Why don't you try out the JK Ranger tyres? I have heard the JK is really good at making tyres for SUVs. I'd suggest you go for the H/T series tyres if your car sees a lot of highway miles and if you do a bit of offroading with it, then get the A/T series tyres. If you're looking at the value proposition, then go with the JK Ranger. If you're expecting good grip levels and performance from your tyres, travel mostly on good roads and are okay with a high price tag, then go for the Michelin Primacy. And if you want high durability from the tyres that can last you as long as your stock tyres, then go with Apollo Apterra. Apollo has really studied the Indian market well and from my experience, can tell you that Apollo tyres last for a real long duration and have the thickest & hardest rubber of all the tyre brands out there. Finally, it's your call. Good luck with the selection.

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Nissan Terrano removed from website

Nissan has removed the Terrano SUV from its website.

The Nissan Terrano was launched in 2013 and shared its platform with the Renault Duster. It was powered by a 1.6-litre, 4-cylinder petrol engine which produced 103 BHP @ 5,750 rpm and 148 Nm of torque @ 3,750 rpm as well as a 1.5-litre, 4-cylinder diesel that came in two states of tune - 84 BHP / 200 Nm and 109 BHP / 245 Nm. Transmission options included a 5-speed manual, 6-speed manual and a 6-speed automatic.

While Renault upgraded the Duster to meet BS6 emission norms, Nissan did not do the same for the Terrano. For now, the Kicks will be the only SUV in Nissan's line up. It will be offered with a new 1.3-litre, turbocharged petrol engine producing 154 BHP and 254 Nm of torque that will be paired with a continuously variable transmission (CVT).

 

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Rumour: Nissan Terrano discontinued

According to a media report, the Nissan Terrano may have been discontinued as the company is no longer taking orders from dealerships. Earlier this year, there were reports of the carmaker halting production after sales had dropped to 2-digit figures. 

The Nissan Terrano was launched in 2013. The SUV shares its platform with the Renault Duster and comes with a choice of petrol and diesel engines. The 1.6-litre, 4-cylinder petrol engine produces 103 BHP @ 5,750 rpm and 148 Nm of torque @ 3,750 rpm. The 1.5-litre, 4-cylinder diesel unit comes in two states of tune - 84 BHP / 200 Nm and 109 BHP / 245 Nm. Transmission options include a 5-speed manual, 6-speed manual and a 6-speed automatic.

The Terrano is expected to be replaced by the Kicks. It features a dual-tone exterior with a V-shaped chrome grille and sweptback LED projector headlamps with U-shaped LED DRLs. It rides on 17-inch, 5-spoke machined alloy wheels. In India, the Kicks is expected to be offered with dual-tone interiors and features like a touchscreen infotainment and 360-degree camera.

Source: MyCarHelpline

 

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Rumour: Nissan Terrano production to be stopped

With the launch of the Nissan Kicks just around the corner, the carmaker has reportedly halted production of the Terrano. Dealers have reported to us that no new cars are being sent from the factory.

However, we don't know if this is a temporary or permanent move. Going by the paltry sales figures though, we won't be surprised if the production is being permanently stopped. In the last couple of months, Terrano sales have dropped to 2-digit figures. In the month of July and August, Nissan sold 65 and 71 units respectively. In fact, in the current financial year, Nissan has sold just 585 units of the Terrano.

The Nissan Terrano is based on the Renault Duster. It is available with petrol and diesel engine options. The 1.6-litre, 4-cylinder petrol engine produces 103 BHP @ 5,750 rpm and 148 Nm of torque @ 3,750 rpm. The 1.5-litre, 4-cylinder diesel unit comes in two states of tune - 84 BHP / 200 Nm and 109 BHP / 245 Nm. Transmission options include a 5-speed manual, 6-speed manual and a 6-speed automatic.

 

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