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Originally Posted by mobike008 Jaggu, sad to hear your friends story. Thats blatant cheating by the "Dealer" and not "Triumph"
Looks like both Triumph and Dealers are hand in glove and know this situation ( there is no way the dealership cannot know as how will they receive the vehicles without the ARAI certifications?)
Now come one, dont tell me each and every dealer in the country has forgotten to even glance at the certificate for the last 9+ months?
Anyway, this Triumph saga has lost its steam (atleast in Hyderabad) and Triumph owners (yes, including the Street Tripple owners) are enjoying dealership proposed sunday rides and seemed to have forgotten that they were cheated by them in the first place and havent given them a solution yet |
Does the ARAI certificate get shared with dealers ? Is it a legally required document demanded by the RTO for registration ? If so, then the dealers would have had their copied well before sales start and that would point to dealers being guilty of fraud too.
As for riding with Triumph organized rides - as they say, no point crying over spilt milk! You may lost some horsepower, but the bike is still rideable and no sense simply letting it gather dust, when you have probably made new biker friends, so why not make the most out of it and enjoy with friends, maybe rant about Triumph over food ?
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Originally Posted by abhinav.s Exactly my feelings!! Bonneville was my dream bike for many years and would have bought it a few years down the line. |
I understand your sentiment, but if that "dream" bike has no worthy rivals, current or expected, why decline your dream for this alone? I don't think Bonnie class of riders are that hp-centric, as compared to supersport riders for whom hp is not just performance but also bragging rights?
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Originally Posted by A_v_i Very likely. Dealers started saying that the moment the controversy broke, that only the bikes coming next year are detuned and what not. As luck would have it, my final payment got done and RTO tax paid, the day this news broke, else i would have definitely put the purchase on hold. Didn't make sense to leave the bike with the dealer after paying all the money and tax. |
Have you been contacted since, made an offer or at least told you will be ? It's been long enough, and if Triumph India is still dilly-dallying , hoping it will pass and their boo-boo will be forgotten, forgiven , then they should not be let off so easy. I wonder if Triumph UK has got wind of what's been happening here. If they have, they damn well should pull up their socks and swing to action before it snowballs. Maybe it won't affect them internationally, but now that the matter is online in some foreign forums, they should now have gotten wind of it.
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Originally Posted by gthang We all know that Triumph India has been having management issues from day one. With some high profile resignations, etc., etc.
This detuned fiasco is no doubt an human error, and they are trying their best to come up with excuses. Typical knee jerk reaction. |
I'm quite sure this is a result of Triumph UK appointing big shots for Triumph India and then letting them have their way, unmonitored, unfettered , "because we Indian managers know how to deal with Indian customers and Indian market".
I doubt they made such a blunder in Brazil about stating EU spec power. Waiting to see if/when heads roll at Triumph India.
Oh, and how about hiring some serious biker dudes instead of suits for whom selling bikes requires the same set of skills as selling biscuits ?
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Originally Posted by gthang For our Superbike market to mature, we need more bikes and more brands. Wishing for the death of a brand in India is extremely counterproductive and does not take into account the fates of hundreds of owners. |
Yes, but more than that, it punishes existing owners, who bought the bike keeping in mind formal/official manufacturer support. If we wanted to depend on Munna-mechanic at some Babloo superbike-wala , we'd have bought one of those used Honda CBR600s.
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Originally Posted by gthang For those who love motorcycles, this setback should not be an issue, especially when an option to bring back to 106 from Triumph exists.
For those who bought the bike for the image and is extremely upset that Triumph lied to them, (Forget the fact that many, including myself, could not tell the difference from riding the bikes), this could be a deal breaker. |
The issue is lot of owners were hoping to put on Arrows and a remap and hot 115hp from the 106 promised. Now that road is a no-entry, it will leave a lot of ST3 owners understandably aggravated.
Since we dont' use all the bike's power on a test ride - unlike journos, we don't get them all day and have a test-track as venue, just a few minutes on public roads, so one's not going to redline the bike and find out those 106 horses were really 79.
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Originally Posted by gthang I hope that people can see past the human errors and see the bikes for what they are.
And I sincerely wish that Ducati would come back to India as well. More the merrier, I say. |
Yes, and MV Agusta too. But practically, there's not enough of a market for all, so we will continue to see annual sales in a few hundreds or low thousands, at exorbitant prices.
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Originally Posted by DipantS Plus, most of riders here are mature enough to keep business and pleasure separate. Rides are for pure fund and pleasure and it doesn't matter who are we riding with and I believe everyone clearly understands it. When it comes to business, we want best of products and services, whatever we are paying for and same has been made clear to everyone involved. |
Yes, while I would be very very upset if I were St3 owner, the ground reality is you have the bike, it's way faster than 99% of the other bikes and unless Triumph said they will buy back the bike, stop riding immediately - it makes no sense to let it gather dust while you rant and rave at Triumph. If life gives you few lemons less (or more?) , you still make lemonade !