Tata Sumo four-wheel-drive

nitrous · 8th July 2007, 00:48

Is it registered, fx45??

Proxima · 8th July 2007, 16:26

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Originally Posted by Steeroid

The army got a whole big supply of 4X4 Sumos. If I'm not mistaken the order was in a few tens of thousands.

Civilians dont get it, just like the Gurkha....shucks I miss that chap from Parwanoo.

Exactly.

We had a 4x4 Sumo TCIC at disposal when we went to Manali last year. We were the guests of the Brigadier in charge there.

Was actually very nice and powerful, was brand new though. I couldnt get to drive it, one army man drove us all around.

nitrous · 8th July 2007, 16:31

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Originally Posted by proxima

Was actually very nice and powerful, was brand new though.

Its the same engine that ur Safari has.

manikjeet · 8th July 2007, 16:59

my aunt has one its white in colour and has wheel arch covers like the sierra

she is a doctor and its a her official vehicle which has a red light on the top

will click pics when she visit next

fx45 · 9th July 2007, 17:21

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Originally Posted by nitrous

Is it registered, fx45??

yes it is MH43
A1612

dadu · 10th July 2007, 10:41

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Originally Posted by falcon

Lets suppose this does become available for civilians....

Our Police force has got the Qualis and the Bolero... I'm pretty sure both of which are 2WD with a Stock setup...

What if some smart criminals decide to pick up this Armoured Sumo 4x4 and fit it with some good rubber with "run flat" capability.... Now would this not be an excellent setup for a get away car!!!

There are reasons why vehicles designed for the Army are not available to civilians....

A 4x4 will not be a quicker get away vehicle
in the city unless you talk about a sludgy or marshy road, an offroad chase, the armoury will add to its weight and make it lethargic along with the 4x4(if engaged).

Armoury in india is a thicker sheet, which anyway can be built inhouse.

headers · 10th July 2007, 10:59

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Originally Posted by dadu

A 4x4 will not be a quicker get away vehicle
in the city unless you talk about a sludgy or marshy road, an offroad chase, the armoury will add to its weight and make it lethargic along with the 4x4(if engaged).

Armoury in india is a thicker sheet, which anyway can be built inhouse.

I guess THIS 4x4 will not be a quick vehicle..but there are others that are!!

dadu · 10th July 2007, 13:33

those will be quicker, even without the 4x4 engaged.

Torque-ative · 10th July 2007, 15:04

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Originally Posted by fx45

i kno a person here in kurla mumbai.. he has a sumo 4wd version which is LHD and colord green.. army style. dunno how he sourcd one but he uses it as a private vehicle.

the only badging it has is 4x4 and turbo.. and no sumo written ne where.

Could this be the M Benz version the sumo was loosely based on.
Some research on the subject points towards this .

fx45 · 15th July 2007, 15:22

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Originally Posted by Torque-ative

Could this be the M Benz version the sumo was loosely based on.
Some research on the subject points towards this .

dude.. its a TATA SUMO no MBZ vehicle... it has tata logos everywhr.. tata wheel caps.. tata sumo interior.. exact same but left hand drive.. i will try to get a pic in some days...

amtak · 26th November 2007, 14:45

Pictures anyone?

FX, Did you get a chance to click some snaps?

fx45 · 22nd June 2008, 12:29

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Originally Posted by fx45

i kno a person here in kurla mumbai.. he has a sumo 4wd version which is LHD and colord green.. army style. dunno how he sourcd one but he uses it as a private vehicle.

the only badging it has is 4x4 and turbo.. and no sumo written ne where.

sorry for replying and updating late. here almost a year back.. in this case. but here are the pics of it.

Blue Thunder · 22nd June 2008, 20:18

Wow! LHD Sumo 4x4. Any idea if the wipers were changed or they have the same as in RHD? (Remember FIAT/Premier Padmini used to have the same for the Indian version as the LHD sold n Europe)

aaggoswami · 22nd June 2008, 21:12

At one Auto Expo, dont remember exactly which one, Tata displayed Sumo 4 X 4. The Army bought a lot of 4 X 4 sumo from Tata.

Alfa_Kilo · 22nd June 2008, 22:35

There are a number of 4x4 Sumo variants.

Initially, during the days of the Sumo and Sumo DX, both with NA engines, a third variant called the Sumo 4x4 Turbo was launched. It had the same engine as the Sierra Turbo, and the electric chain drive TCase from the Safari. The vehicle was equipped with 205 section 15'' tyres.

Some time back another variant was added, the Sumo 4x4 SE. This has a 2.0 NA engine and 185 16'' tyres from the Spacio.

The army version, manufactured mostly as an ambulance has stiffer suspension, a 2.0 ltr TCIC engine and better GC thanks to 7.50-16 tyres.

All 4x4 Sumos have auto hublocks, which are slightly inferior to manual ones.

@Ram
Michelin XZL tyres are verry difficult to aquire in 7.50R16 size even in the UK. All Indian Army vehicles using this tyre size are equipped with MRF Sandgrip, JK LT2000 etc.

The 2.0 TCIC engine is not very suitable for offroading as it lacks low end grunt. It is OK over surfaces where one can keep the engine at relatively high RPMs to keep the turbo spooled, but it is terrible for slow speed rock crawling and 'grinding'.

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manikjeet Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: chandigarh Posts: 1,617 Thanked: 296 Times View My Garage	my aunt has one its white in colour and has wheel arch covers like the sierra she is a doctor and its a her official vehicle which has a red light on the top will click pics when she visit next
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dadu Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 3,803 Thanked: 463 Times View My Garage	those will be quicker, even without the 4x4 engaged.
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Blue Thunder Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Right here . Posts: 1,662 Thanked: 398 Times View My Garage	Wow! LHD Sumo 4x4. Any idea if the wipers were changed or they have the same as in RHD? (Remember FIAT/Premier Padmini used to have the same for the Indian version as the LHD sold n Europe)
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aaggoswami Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: Vadodara Posts: 4,997 Thanked: 3,000 Times	At one Auto Expo, dont remember exactly which one, Tata displayed Sumo 4 X 4. The Army bought a lot of 4 X 4 sumo from Tata.
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22nd June 2008, 22:35	#30
Alfa_Kilo BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Jaipur Posts: 328 Thanked: 13 Times	There are a number of 4x4 Sumo variants. Initially, during the days of the Sumo and Sumo DX, both with NA engines, a third variant called the Sumo 4x4 Turbo was launched. It had the same engine as the Sierra Turbo, and the electric chain drive TCase from the Safari. The vehicle was equipped with 205 section 15'' tyres. Some time back another variant was added, the Sumo 4x4 SE. This has a 2.0 NA engine and 185 16'' tyres from the Spacio. The army version, manufactured mostly as an ambulance has stiffer suspension, a 2.0 ltr TCIC engine and better GC thanks to 7.50-16 tyres. All 4x4 Sumos have auto hublocks, which are slightly inferior to manual ones. @Ram Michelin XZL tyres are verry difficult to aquire in 7.50R16 size even in the UK. All Indian Army vehicles using this tyre size are equipped with MRF Sandgrip, JK LT2000 etc. The 2.0 TCIC engine is not very suitable for offroading as it lacks low end grunt. It is OK over surfaces where one can keep the engine at relatively high RPMs to keep the turbo spooled, but it is terrible for slow speed rock crawling and 'grinding'.
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