Resurrection: A CJ3B STORY

beejay · 3rd October 2009, 11:09

Very good progress diesel maniac. Guess the CJ3b fever is really catching on good.

Torque-ative · 3rd October 2009, 11:16

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Originally Posted by ATUL SINGH

The engine pics as you asked for

Regards,
atul

Atul which engine is this !? Pardon me if I am ignorant but it does not look like a F head hurricane engine to me.

Jasvinder,..please re-confirm.

ex670c · 3rd October 2009, 11:25

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Originally Posted by Torque-ative

Atul which engine is this !? Pardon me if I am ignorant but it does not look like a F head hurricane engine to me.

Jasvinder,..please re-confirm.

Thats a BTL 305 Engine.

Torque-ative · 3rd October 2009, 11:35

Thanks Arka...!! I knew something was up when I saw the injectors instead of the plugs and also the exhaust manifold looked differnt.

Jasvinder why dont you suggest him to pick up Soumen's spare Hurricane block, t-case and gear-box. This way he'll have a bone stock Cj3B.

The final choice off-course lies withe the owner.

JeepCaptain · 3rd October 2009, 11:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Torque-ative

Thanks Arka...!! I knew something was up when I saw the injectors instead of the plugs and also the exhaust manifold looked differnt.

Jasvinder why dont you suggest him to pick up Soumen's spare Hurricane block, t-case and gear-box. This way he'll have a bone stock Cj3B.

The final choice off-course lies withe the owner.

Torque-ative, just fyi - Soumens Hurricane is on the way to kerala now.

I picked it up few weeks back.Will see it on my CJ3B soon.

Shibu

ATUL SINGH · 3rd October 2009, 13:52

Now we know that my 3B has a Firodias Tempo no Force diesel. i'm looking for a F-head hurricane, gear box, Tc, et al. for transplant. can some one help me out. what are the chances of disposing off this engine in working order i.e. approx price it should fetch me and will i be able to source my requirements from the same without shelving out additional bucks. where can it be disposed off?

Help needed.

atul

Torque-ative · 3rd October 2009, 16:31

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Originally Posted by ATUL SINGH

Now we know that my 3B has a Firodias Tempo no Force diesel. i'm looking for a F-head hurricane, gear box, Tc, et al. for transplant. can some one help me out. what are the chances of disposing off this engine in working order i.e. approx price it should fetch me and will i be able to source my requirements from the same without shelving out additional bucks. where can it be disposed off?

Help needed.

atul

First things first is your R/C endorsed with diesel. If yes then its going to be hard to convert it back to petrol on paper.

How does the existing engine run,..is the 4x4 hardware in place.
It is crucial to have the orginal 4x4 hardware (T-case, gear-box et'al) as a factory fit is a factory fit,..unless you have some very skilled mechnacics at your disposal.

If you are hell bent on a Hurricane engine swap,..this should be possible in Mayapuri. Take your mechanic along and swap it with your diesel which should for sure fetch you a better price than the F-head petrol.

I've been told a Hurricane block can be had for around 10,000/-
Look around your best resources on this in Delhi would be Harjeev, and Jasvinder.

Torque-ative · 3rd October 2009, 16:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by JeepCaptain

Torque-ative, just fyi - Soumens Hurricane is on the way to kerala now.

I picked it up few weeks back.Will see it on my CJ3B soon.

Shibu

Cheta,..thats resourceful.

I was stunned when Jasvinder told me that you drove all the way from Noida to Kerala. I was like NO WAY

!! Do you have a travelogue posted on that trip!?

diesel_maniac · 3rd October 2009, 17:39

Hi Atul,

As Naveen has rightly pointed out, please do check if the registration papers of your Jeep have a diesel engine endorsed on it. Even though you may not be planning to sell the Jeep anytime soon. There is no point complicating the issues as far as legalities are concerned. It is better to run a vehicle with a diesel engine if it has been endorsed on the papers and same goes for petrol powered ones. I would always suggest everyone to first give a good thought about all these issues before making a final desicion about a vehicle. So dont hurry in getting it converted into a petrol jeep. Take your time to decide what works for you best and than go ahead. Look at it this way, what is the point of converting the Jeep back to oiginal stock specification, when your papes say otherwise. I as a collector or a die hard original fan would not be very willing to buy a vehicle like this. But in the end its your opinion and/or decision is what matters most. So take your time and decide accordingly.

regards

ATUL SINGH · 7th October 2009, 10:11

Hello Jasvinder, i'm sorry i could'ne upload the engine mounting arrangement picture of my 3B earlier. Here goes...

i hope you can shed some light on it. In case you want more just let me know.

atul

diesel_maniac · 7th October 2009, 10:21

Hi Atul !!

From the pictures I can make out that the original engine mounts have been left intact. The person who did the engine swap work indeed fabricated a mount plate which rests on the chassis rail on one end and the original mounts on the other end. This could probably due to the fact (Not sure about it) that the matador engine is shorter in length (Horizontal) than the hurricane motor. As you will see in some other pictures that you have posted earlier that there is a fabricated shroud that has been mounted between the front grill and the radiator in order to move the latter back towards the cooling fan. So we do not have to worry about the original mounts for now. I hope seniors will shed more light on this.

ATUL SINGH · 7th October 2009, 13:07

Hello Jasvinder,
Would like to see your workshop. when would it be possible? My office is at Tilak Bridge/ITO.

atul

Torque-ative · 7th October 2009, 17:50

Jas Dont you dare before you finsh my ride !!

ATUL SINGH · 7th October 2009, 20:11

Hello torque,
Relax buddy, i dont want to either stall your project or steal your gem. Just wanted to see how far the workshop is from my place. Jasvinder has already told me that he'll start only after he's completed your jeep.

atul

allana13 · 8th October 2009, 01:33

Jas your a popular man... Where are you buddy. Havent seen your post in a while now.

3rd October 2009, 11:09	#76
beejay Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: The Nilgiris Posts: 1,963 Thanked: 204 Times View My Garage	Very good progress diesel maniac. Guess the CJ3b fever is really catching on good.
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Torque-ative BHPian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Jakarta Posts: 500 Thanked: 89 Times	Thanks Arka...!! I knew something was up when I saw the injectors instead of the plugs and also the exhaust manifold looked differnt. Jasvinder why dont you suggest him to pick up Soumen's spare Hurricane block, t-case and gear-box. This way he'll have a bone stock Cj3B. The final choice off-course lies withe the owner.
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3rd October 2009, 13:52	#81
ATUL SINGH BHPian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: FARIDABAD Posts: 235 Thanked: 111 Times	Now we know that my 3B has a Firodias Tempo no Force diesel. i'm looking for a F-head hurricane, gear box, Tc, et al. for transplant. can some one help me out. what are the chances of disposing off this engine in working order i.e. approx price it should fetch me and will i be able to source my requirements from the same without shelving out additional bucks. where can it be disposed off? Help needed. atul Attached Thumbnails
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3rd October 2009, 17:39	#84
diesel_maniac BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Delhi Posts: 170 Thanked: 3 Times	Hi Atul, As Naveen has rightly pointed out, please do check if the registration papers of your Jeep have a diesel engine endorsed on it. Even though you may not be planning to sell the Jeep anytime soon. There is no point complicating the issues as far as legalities are concerned. It is better to run a vehicle with a diesel engine if it has been endorsed on the papers and same goes for petrol powered ones. I would always suggest everyone to first give a good thought about all these issues before making a final desicion about a vehicle. So dont hurry in getting it converted into a petrol jeep. Take your time to decide what works for you best and than go ahead. Look at it this way, what is the point of converting the Jeep back to oiginal stock specification, when your papes say otherwise. I as a collector or a die hard original fan would not be very willing to buy a vehicle like this. But in the end its your opinion and/or decision is what matters most. So take your time and decide accordingly. regards
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7th October 2009, 10:11	#85
ATUL SINGH BHPian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: FARIDABAD Posts: 235 Thanked: 111 Times	Hello Jasvinder, i'm sorry i could'ne upload the engine mounting arrangement picture of my 3B earlier. Here goes... i hope you can shed some light on it. In case you want more just let me know. atul Attached Thumbnails
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7th October 2009, 10:21	#86
diesel_maniac BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Delhi Posts: 170 Thanked: 3 Times	Hi Atul !! From the pictures I can make out that the original engine mounts have been left intact. The person who did the engine swap work indeed fabricated a mount plate which rests on the chassis rail on one end and the original mounts on the other end. This could probably due to the fact (Not sure about it) that the matador engine is shorter in length (Horizontal) than the hurricane motor. As you will see in some other pictures that you have posted earlier that there is a fabricated shroud that has been mounted between the front grill and the radiator in order to move the latter back towards the cooling fan. So we do not have to worry about the original mounts for now. I hope seniors will shed more light on this. Last edited by diesel_maniac : 7th October 2009 at 10:23.
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7th October 2009, 13:07	#87
ATUL SINGH BHPian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: FARIDABAD Posts: 235 Thanked: 111 Times	Hello Jasvinder, Would like to see your workshop. when would it be possible? My office is at Tilak Bridge/ITO. atul
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7th October 2009, 17:50	#88
Torque-ative BHPian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Jakarta Posts: 500 Thanked: 89 Times	Jas Dont you dare before you finsh my ride !!
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7th October 2009, 20:11	#89
ATUL SINGH BHPian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: FARIDABAD Posts: 235 Thanked: 111 Times	Hello torque, Relax buddy, i dont want to either stall your project or steal your gem. Just wanted to see how far the workshop is from my place. Jasvinder has already told me that he'll start only after he's completed your jeep. atul
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8th October 2009, 01:33	#90
allana13 BHPian Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Maidenhead Posts: 541 Thanked: 8 Times View My Garage	Jas your a popular man... Where are you buddy. Havent seen your post in a while now.
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