[Sawyer]

Originally Posted by starter

Additionally, got a pair of free wheeling hubs installed. Makes me wonder as to why din't i do it all this while

Deepak

Hi, can you describe a bit about just what the FWH do for you as a driver, other than the possibly slightly better FE?

With new 215 section tyres my car is now easier to steer in terms of effort, and I don't like to mess with the stock car unless I am sure that the benefit will be more than the loss of reliability.

Thanks.

[starter]

Originally Posted by Jaggu

Recamber for front or rear? If front go for additional plate instead.

Thanks a lot Jaggu. I guess, recambering is necessary only for front, at the moment.
Would the additional leaf not make the ride more hard Jaggu?

Originally Posted by Sawyer

Hi, can you describe a bit about just what the FWH do for you as a driver, other than the possibly slightly better FE?

With new 215 section tyres my car is now easier to steer in terms of effort, and I don't like to mess with the stock car unless I am sure that the benefit will be more than the loss of reliability.

Thanks.

Hey Sawyer,
Additional to the better FE, the steering feels lighter, from a driver's view. Additionally, lesser wear on the front axles is what i read.
Loss of reliability, i am not sure. It is actually a MGP. You can check on their parts catalogue and you would find FWH from Aisin and it costs somewhere around 10K. But the ones i bought are from Lambda.
I did hear/read about the bolts getting loose. But, the MASS where i got these installed, told me that they've taken care to ensure that they don't get loose.

Cheers,
Deepak

[Jaggu]

Originally Posted by starter

Thanks a lot Jaggu. I guess, recambering is necessary only for front, at the moment.
Would the additional leaf not make the ride more hard Jaggu?

Lil bit it can become hard but my guess you might not even notice with those shackles. Are the springs flat or gone negative? If its flat just leave it as it is for the time being, unless you plan to do lot of OTR driving.

Originally Posted by starter

I did hear/read about the bolts getting loose. But, the MASS where i got these installed, told me that they've taken care to ensure that they don't get loose.

Cheers,
Deepak

Fix them with proper spring washer and they will stay locked. If you use normal washer chances of bolt getting lose is high.

[Sawyer]

Originally Posted by starter

Hey Sawyer,
Additional to the better FE, the steering feels lighter, from a driver's view. Additionally, lesser wear on the front axles is what i read.

I am not sure I need the benefit of the lighter steering, because I find that once the car is in decent motion, the steering is pretty effortless even now. It is only at parking speeds that one needs to haul hard on the steering wheel, and at those speeds I can't see the FWH making any difference.
Lesser wear, probably, but on balance, with also the need to remember to lock the hubs in advance of encountering any 4x4 situation, I will stay away from them.
Thanks for the input and good luck with yours.

[cool_dube]

Originally Posted by starter

Additionally, got a pair of free wheeling hubs installed.

Neat looking Gypsy there! Pardon my ignorance, but I thought that Gypsy comes with factory-fitted FWHs - is that not the case?

[starter]

Originally Posted by cool_dube

Neat looking Gypsy there! Pardon my ignorance, but I thought that Gypsy comes with factory-fitted FWHs - is that not the case?

Thanks.
It used to be factory-fitted on the early MG410 models, as far as i know.
Not on the Gypsy King.
Cheers,
Deepak

[Harbir]

Just read through the entire thread. great stuff. I have been wanting a red gypsy for years while in the US and having just returned and having considered a Pajero SFX and put it on the back burner, I am back to the Gypsy again. I am determined that it has to be new and it has to be red. I am a bit disturbed to find that the fitting A/C to the fuel injected versions isn't a possibility. Also not thrilled that the hard top gypsies no longer have the front facing seats. I am heartened however to see that the aisin free wheeling hubs can be retrofitted. I was not at all happy to see that the gypsy doesn't have these as OE anymore. Finding out that I cannot fit an A/C has put a big damper on things. I live in Delhi and 8 months of killing heat with no A/C is going to be tough. maybe I can remove the hardtop, fit that fabric cover over the front two seats, remove the doors and just drive it like that. atleast in the pre-monsoon season......

[starter]

Originally Posted by Harbir

Finding out that I cannot fit an A/C has put a big damper on things. I live in Delhi and 8 months of killing heat with no A/C is going to be tough. maybe I can remove the hardtop, fit that fabric cover over the front two seats, remove the doors and just drive it like that. atleast in the pre-monsoon season......

Hey Harbir,
Sorry, just saw your post.
You can definitely fit an AC in the Gypsy. It is just that there have been many cases of overheating issues after AC installation. So, a little paranoid
But, Guru's (gsferrari) new Gypsy has an AC already and it looks like a fab job and i haven't heard of any over heating issues from him.
With the setup you have in mind, the AC would be even more effective.
So, all the best with your buy.
Cheers,
Deepak

PS: Might bug GS to hook me up with Sripad for an AC install in the next months.

[gsferrari]

AC - no problems with engine overheating. In fact vehicle runs cooler when the AC is on because the condenser fan compliments the radiator fan. I have a separate switch to turn the condensor fan on even when the compressor is OFF. I use this in slow-moving situations such as during OTRs (not enough airflow over radiator) to force air through the radiator. REALLY works.

@Starter - you can hit me up re:Sripad anytime. He is usually very busy but I can put in a word. I paid a lot because my AC is covered under dealer warranty + I configured my AC with different components.

You can read my thread to find out more.

[Ragul]

Originally Posted by Sawyer

I am not sure I need the benefit of the lighter steering, because I find that once the car is in decent motion, the steering is pretty effortless even now. It is only at parking speeds that one needs to haul hard on the steering wheel, and at those speeds I can't see the FWH making any difference.
Lesser wear, probably, but on balance, with also the need to remember to lock the hubs in advance of encountering any 4x4 situation, I will stay away from them.
Thanks for the input and good luck with yours.

I agree. I am opting out as well. MASS just made my steering absolutely featherlite during 2nd service Almost like power steering now.

--Ragul

[Jaggu]

Get the FWH it will save your front axle also. Its worth it, only thing remember to engage them once in a while, just like you would the 4x4 system.

[shk 8896]

Your gypsy looks clean ,Deepak.Even though I hate Hard Tops of Gypsy,I love your Gypsy's Hard top.The Redf and white combination looks nice.Why are you not getting alloys for your Gypsy??If you are not intending to get alloys ,why not paint the rims in Black.Do update
Sreehari

[starter]

Originally Posted by shk 8896

Your gypsy looks clean ,Deepak.Even though I hate Hard Tops of Gypsy,I love your Gypsy's Hard top.The Redf and white combination looks nice.Why are you not getting alloys for your Gypsy??If you are not intending to get alloys ,why not paint the rims in Black.Do update
Sreehari

Dear Sreehari,
Thanks! I am glad you like my Gypsy.
I bought a hard-top for some reasons, but now it no longer is a priority
I am buying metal wheels in black from Swastik and shall be replacing the stock wheels with them soon.
Just waiting for some good MT tyres to hit the market..
Cheers,
Deepak

[starter]

Dear Friends,
When i bought my Gypsy, Khan gave me spidey's front facing rear seat.
I replaced my side facing seats with these.
They were a lot more comfortable than the side seats.
Thanks a lot Khan for gifting me with these seats.

Now, I no longer would need them since my parents would travel more in wifey's Polo.
Hence, I would like to offer these to another Jeep/Gypsy owner.
I've put some extra cushion and fabric seat covers and got the legs painted.
They can be fitted straight away.
Please let me know if somebody is in need of it.

Cheers,
Deepak

[satan]

Originally Posted by starter

Dear Sreehari,
Thanks! I am glad you like my Gypsy.
I bought a hard-top for some reasons, but now it no longer is a priority
I am buying metal wheels in black from Swastik and shall be replacing the stock wheels with them soon.
Just waiting for some good MT tyres to hit the market..
Cheers,
Deepak

Hi Deepak,

Can you pl share a snap of the black metal wheels you are planning on fitting. Are these similar to the offset wheels that came with Samurais abroad.

Thanks,
Neville