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Old 14th September 2007, 13:50   #76
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Gill, your sub being 2 ohms DVC, you can wire it any one of the following ways:

1. Series : to present a 4 ohm load;

2. Parallel : to present a 1 ohm load.

Now option 1, we've been discussing all over. option 2, You need a mono amp thats stable at 1 ohm pumping out 400W RMS @ 1 ohm.

Better option for you would've been to go in for 4ohm DVC to present 2 ohm to the mono. theres no way that i know to present 2 ohm to an amp with a 2 ohm DVCs, except that you power only 1 coil.
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I am a bit confused... What is it your really need? Ask yourself this before you get into an endless (upgrade) loop.

- Do you require more Bass?
- Do you require louder Rears?
- Do you require more Midbass and a louder front soundstage?

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Gill

I am a bit confused... What is it your really need? Ask yourself this before you get into an endless (upgrade) loop.

- Do you require more Bass?
Not a sole parameter,already satisfied with MY ID,it rocks!!But if one get's it,nothing wrong in it!!!

- Do you require louder Rears?
Yes,mother of problems

- Do you require more Midbass and a louder front soundstage?
Front soundstage is phenomenal,it's like ur listening in a studio,very clear!!Midbass is requirement in fronts as well as rears,cause when i play will by SUb off there is a drastic drop in bass and the high's take over the sound stage,i am looking forward to see the improvement in it,

Plz suggest the way for it!!
Gunbir i was more then confused too,it started with need of louder rear,louder not the exact word,rear being in proportion to the over all soundstage,the aim is minimise the gap that one fells particularly at the low to mid volume levels,as on high volume the bass takes over the overall soundstage.
So for this i thought of running the rear and front on 75.4 and add another amp(Mono or 2 channel)!

Gunbir plz advice on this!!
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Any review of Hifonics amp? Mono amps for sub!!
H I F O N I C S
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Frankly, I think you have enough power on the sub, it takes 250w RMS and you already have that. If you wanted more bass why didnt you go for a 12" in the first place?

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Gill, for more bass you may like to opt for a ported box with the same driver....though boomy!
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exactly gill,

gunman i right.

gotta run

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Old 14th September 2007, 19:08   #83
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Gunbir bai ji,i wrote i am satisfied with bass!!

Do you require more Bass?
Not a sole parameter,already satisfied with MY ID,it rocks!!But if one get's it,nothing wrong in it!!!
I said, i am keen to increase the midbass of fronts and rears!!
the upgradation is taking place cause of rears!!Need more juice out of them that too at low voulmes!!
Moreover gunbir correct me if i am wrong Id has power range of 100W-400W or is it the fig u quoted 250w
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Apologies for my late reply Gill sahab.
Went through this thread, and first of all, where are the pics man? Its been so many days and you didnt click pics till now? Bad Boy. Booooo.


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I agree with clip 100% on the srx2s. if you get the srx2s you can use 2 channels of the 75.4 for the rear fill, and the other 2 channels bridged to drive the sub (like you are doing now). The front stage will really come alive with an srx2s.
A very clear and obvious suggestion. Pairing Elletromedia made Amp with Ellectromedia made speakers is the best suggestion.


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i'm sure you'll stop wanting rear fill soon. I too wanted rear fill at first, but now I really don't need it.
Yes I know. This is going to happen very soon. Hehe.



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I said, i am keen to increase the midbass of fronts and rears!!
the upgradation is taking place cause of rears!!Need more juice out of them that too at low voulmes!!
Moreover gunbir correct me if i am wrong Id has power range of 100W-400W or is it the fig u quoted 250w
Sub is getting enough power. You remember we could make it bottom out.

Anyways, Ground Reality check. We are not PRO in tuning.
Wait till you get a proper tune up done of your system. DRASTIC CHANGE will be there. Both in Sub integration and soundstage.

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Where were you mate??i thought might have been bussy with exams??
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Anyways, Ground Reality check. We are not PRO in tuning.
Wait till you get a proper tune up done of your system. DRASTIC CHANGE will be there. Both in Sub integration and soundstage.
Yes, i agree.Rears need improvement!
How much an audison srx2 costs?
Now if i go for it,then most probably i need to power the fronts with it?
Just from your exp can any one help me to tell me what will be the diffrence in the overall soundstage,
GUNBIR i read through a thread in which u mentioned in india it get's real hard to explain the inidan customer to justify the quality of the product when he gets more powered amp at same or lower price!!

So Gunbir i just need that reason or explaination to go for it!!!Hope i am not sounding stuip!!

rears will be powered by 75.4
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few watts here and there doesnt make much of a difference in practical life.
Very right. In fact power would need to be DOUBLED for most people to even hear a difference. That's physics and psycho-acoustics, it's not an opinion!
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Sub is getting enough power. You remember we could make it bottom out.
No reference to Gill's scenario or the equipment whatsoever but, bottoming is not always caused due to an amplifier delivering more power than the subs power handling/ safe operating range. Clipping can also cause it, and mostly does. Which is again, more power than the sub can handle, in a way. But not good power.
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Always good to have considerably more power in your amp than what the speakers can handle. That way the speakers get 'clean' (read un-clipped) power. This sounds better AND reduces risk of burning out a driver, particularly tweeters. But of course the output should be 'limited' in such a way that full power of the amp can never be sent to the 'under-rated' speakers.
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Where were you mate??i thought might have been bussy with exams??

Yes, i agree.Rears need improvement!
How much an audison srx2 costs?
Now if i go for it,then most probably i need to power the fronts with it?
Just from your exp can any one help me to tell me what will be the diffrence in the overall soundstage,
GUNBIR i read through a thread in which u mentioned in india it get's real hard to explain the inidan customer to justify the quality of the product when he gets more powered amp at same or lower price!!

So Gunbir i just need that reason or explaination to go for it!!!Hope i am not sounding stuip!!

rears will be powered by 75.4
Exams start from Monday. I was busy with my Bro who was here from Ohio.

Anyways, if you need a new 2channel Amp fo front, then that's SRX2S.
Wait till you save up enough for it.
Till then, enjoy the current system. I think you will enjoy it more in a couple of weeks when my exams finish.
That is when you get a special PRO tune up to the system.
Just dont ask the details, when and how
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That is when you get a special PRO tune up to the system.
Just dont ask the details, when and how
Very bad Rajat !!You shouldn't do this!!By that time i might move out of punjab so better tell me in advance!!!
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