[gunbir]

Originally Posted by Gill

ID10"V3 is flawless sub at it's price,you can't say this sub won't do this,won't do that!!!One can't ask for more.One more plus is their compatabilty with small enc.
Now i need some more SQL,bit of head turner bass when i want(Evil ME
)Sometimes i want it....
So what would u suggest now,Gunbir paa ji!!!!

I suggest you an iD12 v3 in a custom ported box. Will get very loud without losing much SQ.

[Gill]

I am have my eyes on IDQ12".Would love to have it my setup.It's reviews are simply outstanding,people swear by it's performance,more over IDQ is a Hallmark series.So way to go-IDQ12"V2D2.Suggest an amp for it which gives out 400-500w and i intend to use a sealed box.Any idea about kenwood 9301d prices it gives out 500w@4ohms,another one i came to know is Panasonic cy-pa2003u 400w@4ohms.

[Gill]

Plz share some views on this:-
Is Amp better working on 4 Ohms load or 2ohms load?Some people say Amp working on 4 ohm load will deliver better THD ratings leading to better sound reproduction then 2 ohms load.
I know their are some great AMPs which can perform up to the load of .5 ohms,but here i am considering layman amplifiers!!!
I asked this as i am confused in regard to sub selection DVC, 2 ohms or 4 ohms!!

Cheers!
Happy Diwali!

[anupmathur]

Originally Posted by Gill

Is Amp better working on 4 Ohms load or 2ohms load?Some people say Amp working on 4 ohm load will deliver better THD ratings leading to better sound reproduction then 2 ohms load.
I know their are some great AMPs which can perform up to the load of .5 ohms,but here i am considering layman amplifiers!!!
I asked this as i am confused in regard to sub selection DVC, 2 ohms or 4 ohms!!

For low frequencies, THD is not of such great concern as damping factor. You'd be better off with a 4 ohm sub - better damping factor.
Also less chances of triggering protection circuits of the amp on loud passages, since these circuits are invariably current triggered.

And a very happy Diwali to you!

[Gill]

Hi,

Since last month, i am running my setup without a sub, what i got to know during this period is that why i need a sub,Hertz speakers are simply awesome, it's a honest confesion that i realised there true potenial since last month only, The midbass is accurate and sweet,played some Sawariya tracks, which have Dhol and tabla renditions, vocals as always silky smooth, highs' are crisp as they should be,there is no artifical flavour, one feels like surrounded by sound, the sound reproduction is great,i am totally awestuck,And now for sure i can tell which freq required the sub and gone missing cause of absence of sub! If one needs some more bass, push up the bass level and there you go,the rear veiw mirror is shaking.
Now i got some idea about"Integeration of Sub". Hand on learnings.
I am loving it!!
Cheers!

[overdose14]

Originally Posted by Gill

Hi,

Since last month, i am running my setup without a sub, what i got to know during this period is that why i need a sub,Hertz speakers are simply awesome, it's a honest confesion that i realised there true potenial since last month only, The midbass is accurate and sweet,played some Sawariya tracks, which have Dhol and tabla renditions, vocals as always silky smooth, highs' are crisp as they should be,there is no artifical flavour, one feels like surrounded by sound, the sound reproduction is great,i am totally awestuck,And now for sure i can tell which freq required the sub and gone missing cause of absence of sub! If one needs some more bass, push up the bass level and there you go,the rear veiw mirror is shaking.
Now i got some idea about"Integeration of Sub". Hand on learnings.
I am loving it!!
Cheers!

same story here, few days back i was waiting in DICOR for dad to come back from a place during that time i pulled the signal wires out and turned off HPF and i was thinking why the hell i bought a sub, i could have bought an IPOD etc (all black money gone) you know.
many told me to get good speakers and don't go in for sub but now i'm regretting as now a days i tend to listen at low vol for which comps are more than sufficient.

[clipto333]

Originally Posted by Gill

Hi,

Since last month, i am running my setup without a sub, what i got to know during this period is that why i need a sub,Hertz speakers are simply awesome, it's a honest confesion that i realised there true potenial since last month only, The midbass is accurate and sweet,played some Sawariya tracks, which have Dhol and tabla renditions, vocals as always silky smooth, highs' are crisp as they should be,there is no artifical flavour, one feels like surrounded by sound, the sound reproduction is great,i am totally awestuck,And now for sure i can tell which freq required the sub and gone missing cause of absence of sub! If one needs some more bass, push up the bass level and there you go,the rear veiw mirror is shaking.
Now i got some idea about"Integeration of Sub". Hand on learnings.
I am loving it!!
Cheers!

gill saab,

no offence but how did you get an idea about the integration without the sub?

and pushing up bass levels is not a good thing. for a complete system, you definitely need a sub. a component cannot go down to 30-40hz.

no offence again gill but i really couldn't understand what you meant. could you please explain it again?

have you sent the sub for a replacement?

cheers
clip

[Gill]

Hi Clip, How are you doing?Is your mobile no working i tried to contact you but wasn't able to get through,
Explainations are in bold

Originally Posted by clipto333

gill saab,

no offence but how did you get an idea about the integration without the sub?
I have had heard the songs with sub and with out sub on the same setup,
now i have an idea where sub plug in's,where sub comes into play,see figure wise it's very easy to differntiate when we set the frequency on HU for HPF,LPF but when music is on then it gets bit hard.
So know i know where in lies the requirement for sub,And how sub should blend with front mid bass to enrich the over all low frequencies effect.I hope i am making my self clear enough.
and pushing up bass levels is not a good thing. for a complete system, you definitely need a sub. a component cannot go down to 30-40hz.
I agree that for complete system sub is must,I just wrote about the midbass clip i didn't even changed the HPF settings on the HU,By pushing the bass means icreasing the level of bass to step or two...,clip we can tweak with bass n treble settings for some songs, what's wrong it pushing the bass by the way.
no offence again gill but i really couldn't understand what you meant. could you please explain it again?
I tried,if still there is doubt i can explain more....

have you sent the sub for a replacement?
Not yet, have kept in room since last one month,lazy me.will send it by week end,Let's hope i get some free time by week end.

cheers
clip

And i see no reasons why i should consider your views as offensive,common rishab.........

Cheers!

[Gill]

On sunday i got new HU for the system,Alpine 9887.Tried to click with my phone camera but clarity was good so using some other source pics!Got it from US for 380$ from a local retail store,which is known authorised dealer for alpine,didn't bought from ebay cause of warranty issues.



HU won't be changed yet, as intend to go for planned upgrade in a single go,HU is in,Sub will be changed soon,only pain left is AMP for the SUB!
Moreover has to plan with clip n Rajat about the upgrade execution.


Cheers!!!

[hydrashok]

Heyyyyy! Congrats on the buy, Gill! You won't regret it, ever! And that is a great price! Any idea what the IMPRINT kit goes for?

[nura]

On Crutchfield, the 9887 is $399.99 & the Imprint kit $249.99.

[ScarySkulls]

Originally Posted by clipto333

no offence but how did you get an idea about the integration without the sub?

Same as I get in my car's system. After listening to songs for some time, you get an accurate idea on exactly where the system is lacking (based on your listening in someone else's car. E.g. Your car)

Thus, you now have a fairly good idea at what kind of bass you and at what level so that it blends in well with the rest of the system.
That's the whole point of integration. Isnt it?


@Gill --> Showoff
LOL joking. Congratulations for the 9887. Grandfather deserves a big Patiala for this.

Originally Posted by overdose14

i was thinking why the hell i bought a sub, i could have bought an IPOD etc (all black money gone) you know.

I will agree with that, dear friend Abhi.
An iPod would have been a better investment than a Desi Alpine amp driving a Pioneer sub in an uncalculated, run of the mill design enclosure.

[overdose14]

Originally Posted by ScarySkulls

I will agree with that, dear friend Abhi.
An iPod would have been a better investment than a Desi Alpine amp driving a Pioneer sub in an uncalculated, run of the mill design enclosure.

but bro you've listened to my system and i does sound pretty decent as compared to others. only because gains are set low and i've got good components.
anyway this time mistake was no that expensive and i'm happy with my setup cause now a day i don't push it too hard.


in the end its upto ones taste and how deep his/ her pocket.
i'm currently free so i'll have to live with this as dad is not ready to give me another penny.

[ScarySkulls]

I understand my friend.
We'll discuss on the upgrade when the time comes.
Take Care.

[Gill]

Originally Posted by ScarySkulls

Same as I get in my car's system. After listening to songs for some time, you get an accurate idea on exactly where the system is lacking (based on your listening in someone else's car. E.g. Your car)

Thus, you now have a fairly good idea at what kind of bass you and at what level so that it blends in well with the rest of the system.
That's the whole point of integration. Isnt it?

There you go SS,bang on!
What about AMP for sub,any idea?

Cheers!