The Bull Audio Thread

car_crazy1400 · 11th January 2009, 09:21

No Bass or may be I was expecting too much from the 6.5" speakers but clarity was there but the Rainbows I heard were in a different league altogether. And so was the cost!

I am on a budget install (by some people's standard here), so will try to find the best deal I can find within my budget.

MontyKING · 11th January 2009, 09:47

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Originally Posted by car_crazy1400

No Bass or may be I was expecting too much from the 6.5" speakers but clarity was there but the Rainbows I heard were in a different league altogether. And so was the cost!

I am on a budget install (by some people's standard here), so will try to find the best deal I can find within my budget.

What is your budget? What kind of music do you listen to?

Cheers
MK

car_crazy1400 · 11th January 2009, 11:23

I have a JBL woofer in a box from my old car, which I plan to use, besides that the budget is about 30K (all inclusive including wiring & installation costs)

The music I listen to?: Hmmm... it varies from old hindi songs to Jumaa-cchumma numbers to Trance, Not into Hip hop.

Thinking of getting the Kenwood 6539U or the Pioneer 6050 (w/o bill).

Also, in the kenwood headunit, is thee any way to turn off the variable key illumination?

Getting a Kenwood amp KAC-845 @ bout 7K (no bill.)

Still not decided on the front components. Going for an install today only as then I don't have time. Lets see what I get .

Also I do need some rear fill speakers, should I go in for rear co-axials (6.5'') in the rear doors or 6x9 on the rear tray?

I need the rear fills as I do need to use the boot some times & may need to remove the sub.

Quick Suggestions would be much appreciated.cheers:

abhinav.gupta88 · 11th January 2009, 11:49

Getting a Kenwood amp KAC-845 @ bout 7K (no bill.)
I think the KAC - 845 is for 7k with bill.

Go for the following setup as you are on a 30k budget.

Pio 6050 ( should be around 6-7k without bill)
KAC 845 7k ( Though wont do good justice to the sub in comparison to blaupunkt and JBL)

JBL 608c - 4k
JBL 938 - 4k

Retain old sub
4k ( Damping, wiring , installation etc)

Elito11 · 11th January 2009, 17:06

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Originally Posted by car_crazy1400

I auditioned the Bull Audio speakers in a couple of cars , here at Driven today & found them too flat for my liking. Maybe they didn't do what I was expecting out of them, but I also auditioned a JBL GTO 608c (IIRC) & found them to be better than the Bulls but the GTO's were too bright for my liking though where as the Bulls were quiet clear at legible volume.

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Originally Posted by noidaboy

What all speakers are you comparing them to interms of pricing with B/W?

Hi car_crazy - Yes..the bulls were clear and nice, but not sharp enuff or a bit dull maybe.

Hi noida boy - well not comparing them to anyone as such...but for the money (My gf got a pair of bull comps for abt 5.1k) i found them nothiing "special". They were neither exceptionally versatile nor very specialised.

Elito

MontyKING · 11th January 2009, 20:58

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Originally Posted by Elito11

Hi car_crazy -
Hi noida boy - well not comparing them to anyone as such...but for the money (My gf got a pair of bull comps for abt 5.1k) i found them nothiing "special". They were neither exceptionally versatile nor very specialised.

Elito

Do you mean they are overpriced?

Cheers
MK

greenhorn · 11th January 2009, 21:07

if that really is the price they sell for, its reasonable. different people have different tastes. If you like your music loud and in your face, then these might not be the best speakers to have. If you like it neutral or laid back, these are okay.

Elito11 · 12th January 2009, 00:08

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Originally Posted by greenhorn

if that really is the price they sell for, its reasonable. different people have different tastes. If you like your music loud and in your face, then these might not be the best speakers to have. If you like it neutral or laid back, these are okay.

To each his own. I found them way overpriced for what they offer and would prefer my hertz to these anyday.

Elito

hellspawn · 12th January 2009, 01:16

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Originally Posted by Elito11

To each his own. I found them way overpriced for what they offer and would prefer my hertz to these anyday.

Elito

Exactly the point.A lot of people dont like hertz,including me because they are too bright.Bull audio is preferred by those who prefer a neutral balance.
So its all about a persons listening tastes.
Some like bull,some like hertz and then some like JBL's.
Have heard setups where the person got his hertz energy components replaced by bull components,and there was a marked improvement in sound quality in terms of clarity and midbass.
To sum it up,everyone has different tastes,so

audition before buying.

noidaboy · 12th January 2009, 02:00

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Originally Posted by Elito11

To each his own. I found them way overpriced for what they offer and would prefer my hertz to these anyday.

Elito

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Originally Posted by Elito11

Hi car_crazy - Yes..the bulls were clear and nice, but not sharp enuff or a bit dull maybe.

Hi noida boy - well not comparing them to anyone as such...but for the money (My gf got a pair of bull comps for abt 5.1k) i found them nothiing "special". They were neither exceptionally versatile nor very specialised.

Elito

Dude!! They are the probably the cheapest pair of 6.5" compos with B/W what do expect them to do?? What kind of versatility and specialization were you wanting? The treble can be adjusted it has 2 modes of settings,The speakers performance cannot be judged on one single parameter as its dependent on other factors.

Yes they are not as bright as hertz.They are laid back for sure,they are certainly not for ts-20 fans

.They play nice and clean,thats what you can expect from an entry level speaker.

Anyways every one has their own choice and taste's.
cheers:

abhibh · 12th January 2009, 02:21

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Originally Posted by hellspawn

Have heard setups where the person got his hertz energy components replaced by bull components,and there was a marked improvement in sound quality in terms of clarity and midbass.

May i know who this person is ? So i can get my hands of his/her High Energy (if he/she is selling)

low_bass_makker · 12th January 2009, 05:44

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Originally Posted by noidaboy

Dude!! They are the probably the cheapest pair of 6.5" compos with B/W what do expect them to do??

There are quite a few out there at 5.5k...

MontyKING · 12th January 2009, 10:48

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Originally Posted by low_bass_makker

There are quite a few out there at 5.5k...

LBM bhai, what are those choices?

Cheers
MK

greenhorn · 12th January 2009, 11:00

the JBL GT5 comps @ 5k for starters, but their sound signature is a bit different

I know they sound laid back, the the thing was , unlike the hertz, there was no warmth to them. they just sounded dry. The good news however is that because its a poly cone , you dont have to worry about water. I'm scared to death about getting my paper cones wet.

@ abhibh, I'm next in line !

low_bass_makker · 12th January 2009, 13:38

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Originally Posted by MontyKING

LBM bhai, what are those choices?

Cheers
MK

Sorry bro I cannot promote the products I sell.

11th January 2009, 09:21	#106
car_crazy1400 BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: DL/UP16/PB10 Posts: 647 Thanked: 330 Times	No Bass or may be I was expecting too much from the 6.5" speakers but clarity was there but the Rainbows I heard were in a different league altogether. And so was the cost! I am on a budget install (by some people's standard here), so will try to find the best deal I can find within my budget. Last edited by car_crazy1400 : 11th January 2009 at 09:24. Reason: Spellcheck
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11th January 2009, 11:23	#108
car_crazy1400 BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: DL/UP16/PB10 Posts: 647 Thanked: 330 Times	I have a JBL woofer in a box from my old car, which I plan to use, besides that the budget is about 30K (all inclusive including wiring & installation costs) The music I listen to?: Hmmm... it varies from old hindi songs to Jumaa-cchumma numbers to Trance, Not into Hip hop. Thinking of getting the Kenwood 6539U or the Pioneer 6050 (w/o bill). Also, in the kenwood headunit, is thee any way to turn off the variable key illumination? Getting a Kenwood amp KAC-845 @ bout 7K (no bill.) Still not decided on the front components. Going for an install today only as then I don't have time. Lets see what I get . Also I do need some rear fill speakers, should I go in for rear co-axials (6.5'') in the rear doors or 6x9 on the rear tray? I need the rear fills as I do need to use the boot some times & may need to remove the sub. Quick Suggestions would be much appreciated.cheers: Last edited by car_crazy1400 : 11th January 2009 at 11:25.
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11th January 2009, 11:49	#109
abhinav.gupta88 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Delhi , India Posts: 4,092 Thanked: 325 Times View My Garage	Getting a Kenwood amp KAC-845 @ bout 7K (no bill.) I think the KAC - 845 is for 7k with bill. Go for the following setup as you are on a 30k budget. Pio 6050 ( should be around 6-7k without bill) KAC 845 7k ( Though wont do good justice to the sub in comparison to blaupunkt and JBL) JBL 608c - 4k JBL 938 - 4k Retain old sub 4k ( Damping, wiring , installation etc)
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11th January 2009, 21:07	#112
greenhorn Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: KL-01 Posts: 7,745 Thanked: 4,402 Times View My Garage	if that really is the price they sell for, its reasonable. different people have different tastes. If you like your music loud and in your face, then these might not be the best speakers to have. If you like it neutral or laid back, these are okay.
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12th January 2009, 11:00	#119
greenhorn Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: KL-01 Posts: 7,745 Thanked: 4,402 Times View My Garage	the JBL GT5 comps @ 5k for starters, but their sound signature is a bit different I know they sound laid back, the the thing was , unlike the hertz, there was no warmth to them. they just sounded dry. The good news however is that because its a poly cone , you dont have to worry about water. I'm scared to death about getting my paper cones wet. @ abhibh, I'm next in line ! Last edited by greenhorn : 12th January 2009 at 11:04.
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