Advanced and Mind blasting I.C.E for my civic

Bass&Trouble · 4th June 2009, 13:58

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Originally Posted by BmwAddict

http://www.dynaudio.com/eng/pdf/Esotar2_1200.pdf

JBL Car & Marine Audio

How should we compare the products ? I mean in general I should have an idea to differentiate them.

Comparing on paper will be an arduous task for all the various items that will comprise your setup. It could also be misleading since some brands do have ways to hype up what the product looks like on paper. If it is possible, you should check out some good installs in person and then decide what you want to go in for. It is not always necessary that two fellows with a 10L budget will end up using identical gear.

zucchero · 4th June 2009, 14:01

great budget.go through the forum.i am sure you will find many installs.audition and then buy.

akbaree · 4th June 2009, 14:37

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Originally Posted by navin

Amps: Steg, Audision (VRx), Sinfoni, Tru C7, and this one (ok it aint made anymore) Car Audio - ADCOM

Will adding McIntosh a good idea to this list?

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Speakers: Dyn, SS (you have to DIY a a bit), JL (subs), ID (subs), GZ (subs), DLS, Rainbow, Illusion, Kappa Perfect (Infinity), etc..

Dyn or Morel? I am not sure why we don't have Focal here.

VOiLA · 4th June 2009, 14:44

Try sundown/US AMPS/Zapco for amplifiers !!

navpreet318 · 4th June 2009, 16:53

zucchero!! you have only that much to say.BMWaddict this is the only man in on Tbhp to have Dynaudio.ask him for his review.

He and I both are totally biased towards Dynaudio.

Why? because there is simply NO other comparable speaker in this class.

And regarding comparing speakers.Well Dynaudio Esotar is for some 2 lakhs for a single set of speakers.So comparing it to anything available in india as of now would be the biggest criminal offence in the whole world.lol.

the dynaudio coupled with the Steg Masterstroke or one of those Tube genesis amps and you'll his the sweet spot of music.

Now since you have stated that you have liked the JBL system then you have an option of bringing down your budget to 1-2 lakhs total.because using somehting like the steg masterstroke for the JBL would be an overkill.actually it would be like installing a jet engine on a cycle.lol.

But then if you're happy with the JBL then go for it and you can use the rest of the money to get more accessories or maybe a superbike or maybe you can gift it to me so that i can get myself a dynaudio audio system.

BmwAddict · 4th June 2009, 17:47

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Originally Posted by navpreet318

zucchero!! you have only that much to say.BMWaddict this is the only man in on Tbhp to have Dynaudio.ask him for his review.

He and I both are totally biased towards Dynaudio.

Why? because there is simply NO other comparable speaker in this class.

And regarding comparing speakers.Well Dynaudio Esotar is for some 2 lakhs for a single set of speakers.So comparing it to anything available in india as of now would be the biggest criminal offence in the whole world.lol.

the dynaudio coupled with the Steg Masterstroke or one of those Tube genesis amps and you'll his the sweet spot of music.

Now since you have stated that you have liked the JBL system then you have an option of bringing down your budget to 1-2 lakhs total.because using somehting like the steg masterstroke for the JBL would be an overkill.actually it would be like installing a jet engine on a cycle.lol.

But then if you're happy with the JBL then go for it and you can use the rest of the money to get more accessories or maybe a superbike or maybe you can gift it to me so that i can get myself a dynaudio audio system.

I think I may go for 12" Esotar 1200,it's classic

greenhorn · 4th June 2009, 18:08

BMWaddict, I'd seriously recommend that you set out and find a good installer before making up a list of equipment. I'd say installer > equipment, and find out what he can source for you

BmwAddict · 4th June 2009, 18:09

I am done with Sub and Amp

Sub: DynAudio Esator 1200
Amp:Steg MasterStroke 3000

any companies for the components,illusion audio are good but any other company ?

sathee46 · 4th June 2009, 18:16

Why not components from the same family, the Dynaudio System 362!

low_bass_makker · 4th June 2009, 18:36

You can look for other brands like Morel, Alpine F-1 Series, Scanspeak(will be needing good installer for the same), Focal Be.

akbaree · 4th June 2009, 18:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by BmwAddict

I am done with Sub and Amp

Sub: DynAudio Esator 1200
Amp:Steg MasterStroke 3000

any companies for the components,illusion audio are good but any other company ?

Great choice. Not that I have heard any of these, but I have read that Dyn Audio Esotar 1200 are great subs.

Did you even considered Focal Berilium or Morel Ultimo subs? Your choice is great, but your budget offeres so many high end possibilities.

zucchero · 4th June 2009, 19:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by BmwAddict

I am done with Sub and Amp

Sub: DynAudio Esator 1200
Amp:Steg MasterStroke 3000

any companies for the components,illusion audio are good but any other company ?

you want to have illusion audio comps with esotar2 1200 and steg masterstroke

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Originally Posted by sathee46

Why not components from the same family, the Dynaudio System 362!

sathee even the dynaudio esotec 362 is not any worth for the esotar.an absolute waste of money.

BmwAddict · 4th June 2009, 20:10

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Originally Posted by zucchero

you want to have illusion audio comps with esotar2 1200 and steg masterstroke

sathee even the dynaudio esotec 362 is not any worth for the esotar.an absolute waste of money.

No.I did not start with components.Sir,I am here to take an advise and members like you should guide me in the right way if you think that I am wasting my money.Why would I start topic here ? I can ask any local guy in my accessory shop and get that done ? I trust the members here.

Please guide me.

Am I good with the sub and amp ?

frankmehta · 4th June 2009, 20:11

I would recommend the following:

Dynaudio Esotar seems a very good choice, even though I havent heard them. But, then again, they are known to sound orgasmic. Hence the frontstage and the subwoofer/s can be Dynaudios. The rear fills can be Dynaudios too, albeit a slightly lower range. Esotars as rear fills would be slightly overkill, unless you plan to be chauffeured around.

Links:
Subwoofer/s:
Dynaudio - Authentic Fidelity
Midbass:
Dynaudio - Authentic Fidelity
Midrange:
Dynaudio - Authentic Fidelity
Tweeter:
Dynaudio - Authentic Fidelity

OF course, you will be running them active, since the amps in question will be having a lot of potential to cross these speakers over.

The
Steg MSKs are definitely the chosen ones here. I doubt anyone makes them like these!
1 for the fronts and rears
1 for the subwoofer/s
STEG Audio-System

The Head unit should be an Eclipse AVX5000... PERIOD
ECLIPSE DVD Receiver AVX5000 | Fujitsu Ten

There's not much this head unit CANT do, and it's the king of all. It's beautiful looking too.

Wiring, cabling, RCA's must be TOP NOTCH.

You should zero in on the major stuff at first, and then the fine details like a bling install and the wiring, cables and rca's will be sorted out.

Bass&Trouble · 4th June 2009, 20:31

I'm quite baffled at a lot of the suggestions on this thread.

Nowhere has BMWAddict mentioned that he is looking for a "textbook" SQ system. In fact, he has said that he likes the sound of JBL, and finds Bose to be 'macho for techno'. Let's face it, Bose and JBL while sounding very different from one another, are very far from the sound that a Dynaudio Esotar + Steg MSK combo can produce. Unless the JBLs he heard are the GTi series ones.

A budget of 10L does not necessarily point down the path of HX-D2s and Steg MSKs. I suspect he might be looking for something that is powerful yet clean. Anyone taking up this install should make sure that BMWAddict gets to listen to a variety of setups, and then scale it according to request. The setup might even end up significantly under the allocated budget.

4th June 2009, 14:01	#32
zucchero BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: faridabad/rourkela Posts: 250 Thanked: 0 Times	great budget.go through the forum.i am sure you will find many installs.audition and then buy.
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4th June 2009, 14:44	#34
VOiLA BHPian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Hmmmm.... Posts: 102 Thanked: 0 Times	Try sundown/US AMPS/Zapco for amplifiers !!
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4th June 2009, 16:53	#35
navpreet318 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Dehradun Posts: 2,264 Thanked: 2,983 Times	zucchero!! you have only that much to say.BMWaddict this is the only man in on Tbhp to have Dynaudio.ask him for his review. He and I both are totally biased towards Dynaudio. Why? because there is simply NO other comparable speaker in this class. And regarding comparing speakers.Well Dynaudio Esotar is for some 2 lakhs for a single set of speakers.So comparing it to anything available in india as of now would be the biggest criminal offence in the whole world.lol. the dynaudio coupled with the Steg Masterstroke or one of those Tube genesis amps and you'll his the sweet spot of music. Now since you have stated that you have liked the JBL system then you have an option of bringing down your budget to 1-2 lakhs total.because using somehting like the steg masterstroke for the JBL would be an overkill.actually it would be like installing a jet engine on a cycle.lol. But then if you're happy with the JBL then go for it and you can use the rest of the money to get more accessories or maybe a superbike or maybe you can gift it to me so that i can get myself a dynaudio audio system.
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4th June 2009, 18:08	#37
greenhorn Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: KL-01 Posts: 7,745 Thanked: 4,402 Times View My Garage	BMWaddict, I'd seriously recommend that you set out and find a good installer before making up a list of equipment. I'd say installer > equipment, and find out what he can source for you
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4th June 2009, 18:09	#38
BmwAddict BHPian Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 80 Thanked: Once	I am done with Sub and Amp Sub: DynAudio Esator 1200 Amp:Steg MasterStroke 3000 any companies for the components,illusion audio are good but any other company ?
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4th June 2009, 18:16	#39
sathee46 BHPian Join Date: May 2008 Location: Chennai Posts: 465 Thanked: 8 Times View My Garage	Why not components from the same family, the Dynaudio System 362!
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4th June 2009, 18:36	#40
low_bass_makker Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Faridabad Posts: 6,815 Thanked: 305 Times View My Garage	You can look for other brands like Morel, Alpine F-1 Series, Scanspeak(will be needing good installer for the same), Focal Be.
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4th June 2009, 20:11	#44
frankmehta Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 4,000 Thanked: 3,577 Times View My Garage	I would recommend the following: Dynaudio Esotar seems a very good choice, even though I havent heard them. But, then again, they are known to sound orgasmic. Hence the frontstage and the subwoofer/s can be Dynaudios. The rear fills can be Dynaudios too, albeit a slightly lower range. Esotars as rear fills would be slightly overkill, unless you plan to be chauffeured around. Links: Subwoofer/s: Dynaudio - Authentic Fidelity Midbass: Dynaudio - Authentic Fidelity Midrange: Dynaudio - Authentic Fidelity Tweeter: Dynaudio - Authentic Fidelity OF course, you will be running them active, since the amps in question will be having a lot of potential to cross these speakers over. The Steg MSKs are definitely the chosen ones here. I doubt anyone makes them like these! 1 for the fronts and rears 1 for the subwoofer/s STEG Audio-System The Head unit should be an Eclipse AVX5000... PERIOD ECLIPSE DVD Receiver AVX5000 \| Fujitsu Ten There's not much this head unit CANT do, and it's the king of all. It's beautiful looking too. Wiring, cabling, RCA's must be TOP NOTCH. You should zero in on the major stuff at first, and then the fine details like a bling install and the wiring, cables and rca's will be sorted out. Last edited by frankmehta : 4th June 2009 at 20:14.
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4th June 2009, 20:31	#45
Bass&Trouble Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Bombay Posts: 2,754 Thanked: 124 Times	I'm quite baffled at a lot of the suggestions on this thread. Nowhere has BMWAddict mentioned that he is looking for a "textbook" SQ system. In fact, he has said that he likes the sound of JBL, and finds Bose to be 'macho for techno'. Let's face it, Bose and JBL while sounding very different from one another, are very far from the sound that a Dynaudio Esotar + Steg MSK combo can produce. Unless the JBLs he heard are the GTi series ones. A budget of 10L does not necessarily point down the path of HX-D2s and Steg MSKs. I suspect he might be looking for something that is powerful yet clean. Anyone taking up this install should make sure that BMWAddict gets to listen to a variety of setups, and then scale it according to request. The setup might even end up significantly under the allocated budget.
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