The Dilemma of the Low_Bass_makker/s?

Invinsible · 9th August 2009, 00:42

Last when I had checked with Eric Stevens I remember he mentioning about IDQ15v3 in making and the expected launch mentioned was around Aug end/Sept. I also learnt that going two ID10v3 against 2 IDQ10/12v2 would dig lower, louder and tighter. IDv3 series is improved version of IDQV2 series. It does what IdQv2 would do with going slightly louder. You can even look at Id15v3.

Isobaric enclosure irrespective of whichever order you choose will definitely go lower but won't be as loud as going sealed enclosure unless you decide to add a port to the Isobaric enclosure.

Check with Eric, let's see what he has to say about his product. I say get 2x10" mount them on either side of sidewall in fiberglass enclosure.

sathee46 · 9th August 2009, 11:37

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Originally Posted by Invinsible

I also learnt that going two ID10v3 against 2 IDQ10/12v2 would dig lower, louder and tighter. IDv3 series is improved version of IDQV2 series. It does what IdQv2 would do with going slightly louder.

Wow, This sounds intresting. Can someone confirm this please.

The IDQ12V2 is doing great, it's tight, goes low and loud. But after a certain volume level it is not able to keep up with the rest of the equipment this may be due to the fact that it is in a sedan and that is the reason i was looking to add one more subwoofer. If what you are saying is true then 2 X ID10V2 would be a perfect option for the sedan.

Edit: Also how would the IDQ12V3 compare against 2 X ID10V2?

low_bass_makker · 9th August 2009, 15:06

I never found Idq V2 12 inch to be loud. Having used it in my car for few days.

navpreet318 · 9th August 2009, 15:47

I don't know your budget but why don't you get an IDmax.i heard them in Manan's car and they sound so amazing.fast,tight,low and loud.whatever the task, they just cross your expectations.

low_bass_makker · 9th August 2009, 16:18

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Originally Posted by navpreet318

I don't know your budget but why don't you get an IDmax.i heard them in Manan's car and they sound so amazing.fast,tight,low and loud.whatever the task, they just cross your expectations.

Bro Frank has a budget of 20k and the Max is for 35k+...I think it will double his budget.

frankmehta · 9th August 2009, 16:19

yes, we could keep 20k for the sub section as a benchmark ;-)

abhinav.gupta88 · 9th August 2009, 18:36

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Originally Posted by frankmehta

yes, we could keep 20k for the sub section as a benchmark ;-)

Umm , SI BM? I guess it'll be an amazing sub.
Or rather use 2 of them.

They require 200-500 watts and when i enquired about it from Nick, he said 300-350 would give an amazing response.

they have just a 3.5mm mounting depth. and require only a 0.5ft^3 enclosure. So you can save a lot of boot space.

Or the best would be the Stereo Integrity MAG V4 if you can source it somehow.
An awesome sub and goes freakingly low.

I'm sure you'll love it.

But again your amp.
The Mag is d2 and the BM is D4.
So 2 BM would mean a 1 / 4 ohm load.

Get your amp changed frank. :P

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Originally Posted by low_bass_makker

Bro Frank has a budget of 20k and the Max is for 35k+...I think it will double his budget.

The 10inch is 41400.
The 12 inch should be around 44k.

DerAlte · 9th August 2009, 23:15

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Originally Posted by abhinav.gupta88

... they have just a 3.5mm mounting depth. ...

Even electrostatic speakers were thicker than that, Abhinav! Something black in the lentils.

abhinav.gupta88 · 9th August 2009, 23:24

Big output, tiny mounting depth, tiny enclosures; that's what the BM series is all about. Using the same technology we use in our Mag series, we put the motor of the BM's inside the basket to shrink the mounting depth to a miniscule 3.5 inches on a 12" subwoofer!

Stereo Integrity

I was shocked too but thats what it says.
And what Nick had said about the mag, it all was true. The accuracy of each of his information. So i would not doubt on this too.

DerAlte · 9th August 2009, 23:36

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Originally Posted by abhinav.gupta88

... Using the same technology we use in our Mag series, we put the motor of the BM's inside the basket to shrink the mounting depth to a miniscule 3.5 inches on a 12" subwoofer! ...

YOU are behind SI subs? Hmmm.

And, bhaya, you said 3.5mm in your previous post. Jagte rahoooooo ...

ankit_chd · 9th August 2009, 23:39

What about ID 12" V3 ??
Costs around 16k ....

abhinav.gupta88 · 10th August 2009, 00:21

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Originally Posted by DerAlte

YOU are behind SI subs? Hmmm.

And, bhaya, you said 3.5mm in your previous post. Jagte rahoooooo ...

Arey nahin, but i am in contact with the owner regarding these subs too.
My cousin who is in the US and owns a BMW 3 wants to install 2 of these.

Sorry about that :P Guess i was way too excited

Invinsible · 10th August 2009, 00:41

Abhinav SI BM is completely different than the Magv4. There is already a review up on the BM prototype which is based on BM mkII final version MKIII will be slightly different. Sure it goes low but it cannot be crossed high like 100hz, 125hz as MAGv4. There are many subs that digs lower just like MAG most of them mentioned on Pg.3 here. Apart from the specs and characteristic of the sub, most of the 10", 12" could be made to dig lower with the help of EQ. Changing the amp and getting two subs will be an expensive affair. There are many subs that can go low at 16hz, 20hz. No doubt mag is clean, but there are others like the Shiva-x, Jbl gti, dayton, FiQ, HSU, AVI, CSS, all of their subs are proven to play down to 20hz being linear. The only issue is these are not available here for audition and so its more like a gamble. Apart from the musical part it also matters on the budget and how space one is willing to give up.
BM no doubt will be good choice but I suppose it doesnt matches the amp.

Frank take your pick all the subs mentioned here are great SQ subs, you wont regret with any.

navpreet318 · 10th August 2009, 10:09

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Originally Posted by low_bass_makker

Bro Frank has a budget of 20k and the Max is for 35k+...I think it will double his budget.

Oh ok.whats the price of the 10 inchers which manan has.just for my reference.manan is too secretive about his prices.lol.

karankapoor · 10th August 2009, 10:42

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Originally Posted by navpreet318

Manan is too secretive about his prices.lol.

Is he ?

check this.

Manan is using the custom painted ID-MAX'S the the regular ones are bit cheaper.

9th August 2009, 00:42	#46
Invinsible Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Bombay Posts: 1,257 Thanked: 62 Times	Last when I had checked with Eric Stevens I remember he mentioning about IDQ15v3 in making and the expected launch mentioned was around Aug end/Sept. I also learnt that going two ID10v3 against 2 IDQ10/12v2 would dig lower, louder and tighter. IDv3 series is improved version of IDQV2 series. It does what IdQv2 would do with going slightly louder. You can even look at Id15v3. Isobaric enclosure irrespective of whichever order you choose will definitely go lower but won't be as loud as going sealed enclosure unless you decide to add a port to the Isobaric enclosure. Check with Eric, let's see what he has to say about his product. I say get 2x10" mount them on either side of sidewall in fiberglass enclosure.
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9th August 2009, 15:06	#48
low_bass_makker Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Faridabad Posts: 6,813 Thanked: 306 Times View My Garage	I never found Idq V2 12 inch to be loud. Having used it in my car for few days.
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9th August 2009, 15:47	#49
navpreet318 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Dehradun Posts: 2,298 Thanked: 3,349 Times	I don't know your budget but why don't you get an IDmax.i heard them in Manan's car and they sound so amazing.fast,tight,low and loud.whatever the task, they just cross your expectations.
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9th August 2009, 16:19	#51
frankmehta Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 4,029 Thanked: 3,668 Times View My Garage	yes, we could keep 20k for the sub section as a benchmark ;-)
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9th August 2009, 23:24	#54
abhinav.gupta88 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Delhi , India Posts: 4,090 Thanked: 341 Times View My Garage	Big output, tiny mounting depth, tiny enclosures; that's what the BM series is all about. Using the same technology we use in our Mag series, we put the motor of the BM's inside the basket to shrink the mounting depth to a miniscule 3.5 inches on a 12" subwoofer! Stereo Integrity I was shocked too but thats what it says. And what Nick had said about the mag, it all was true. The accuracy of each of his information. So i would not doubt on this too.
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9th August 2009, 23:39	#56
ankit_chd BHPian Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Chandigarh Posts: 262 Thanked: 29 Times	What about ID 12" V3 ?? Costs around 16k ....
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10th August 2009, 00:41	#58
Invinsible Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Bombay Posts: 1,257 Thanked: 62 Times	Abhinav SI BM is completely different than the Magv4. There is already a review up on the BM prototype which is based on BM mkII final version MKIII will be slightly different. Sure it goes low but it cannot be crossed high like 100hz, 125hz as MAGv4. There are many subs that digs lower just like MAG most of them mentioned on Pg.3 here. Apart from the specs and characteristic of the sub, most of the 10", 12" could be made to dig lower with the help of EQ. Changing the amp and getting two subs will be an expensive affair. There are many subs that can go low at 16hz, 20hz. No doubt mag is clean, but there are others like the Shiva-x, Jbl gti, dayton, FiQ, HSU, AVI, CSS, all of their subs are proven to play down to 20hz being linear. The only issue is these are not available here for audition and so its more like a gamble. Apart from the musical part it also matters on the budget and how space one is willing to give up. BM no doubt will be good choice but I suppose it doesnt matches the amp. Frank take your pick all the subs mentioned here are great SQ subs, you wont regret with any.
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