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Originally Posted by Speed Pujari I am kinda unable to get both the points  . Why can't we use a consumer grade lens over a D200? A D200 is a semi-pro DSLR and is DX-format and I dont know whats wrong in using it that way?
Again with the Nikkor 50mm f/1.8 combo with the D3x, still i am trying to get the point. Nikkor gives only three options for 50mm prime - f/1.8, f/1.4 and f/1.4 AF-S.
f/1.4 is an overkill for many.
And Nikkor 50mm f/1.8 is a FX-format so no question of vignette with full frame. So is there any valid reason for not using that lens with D3x?
And why is that not going to work out precisely?
Peace. I may have not got your points correctly it_inspector, so kindly bear. But maybe you can share some insights into if I am missing anything here. |
I so didn`t wanted to jump into this conversation and i was trying to avoid it, but looks like pandora's box needs to be opened. There are 2 major factors when using a DSLR - LENS combo, these are LENS Resolution (or Optical Resolution) and Sensor Resolution, please don't confuse with Megapixels (in other words Image Resolution). For ease of understanding, think of Sensor Resolution as ISO performance or Sensor Sensitivity (yes yes, its both right and wrong here).
With Semi-Pro to Pro bodies, Sensor resolution (or senstivity) is higher and hence lenses are designed with this fact in mind. Lens will outresolve sensor, in other words, Lens Resolution is higher than Sensor Resolution.
With consumer bodies, Sensor resolution (or senstivity) is low and hence CONSUMER lenses are designed with this fact in mind. CONSUMER lens will outresolve CONSUMER DSLR sensor, but Semi-pro to Pro bodies will outresolve the Lens, in other words Sensor resolution is higher than lens resolution.
Ideally Lens Resolution should outresolve Sensor Resolution otherwise Sensor is crippled by the Lens.
This is why it doesn`t make a sense to use consumer grade lens on a Semi-pro to Pro body. PnS cameras have same issue where sensor out resolves the lens (except Panasonic Lx-3 where its almost same).
About Nikon 50mm f1.8 on D3X/D3, well why would you use a consumer grade lens and decrease AF efficiency and still depend on AF ??? I cannot understand this.
Actually nikon also has 50mm f1.2 Ai-s variant and it isn't that expensive from 50mm f1.4 ai-s but is quite expensive from both 50mm f1.4 afs and D versions.
And with D200 one can adjust focusing issues for each lens, for example ur friend is having sharpness issues, usually caused by Sigma`s front/back focusing issue, it can be corrected quite easily in D200.
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Originally Posted by Speed Pujari Indeed.
But an expensive glass when used by an EXPERIENCED PHOTOGRAPHER does make even better photograph than using a cheap glass by the same guy and for the same subject at the same FL and same setting.
This is a hard fact for any Experienced or non-Experienced photographer that glass quality DOES matter. There's no magic. |
Not really, for me using 70-300mm and 300mm f2.8vr is the same thing, since i stop down both to do my landscape shots. Unless i have to shoot at f2.8 but then again 300mm f2.8vr was not designed to be used at f2.8, it shines at f4
Glass does matter but the fact is this has been quite hyped now. Good glass gives almost same results sicne zooms are in similar performance ratio with primes now days. Where primes or good glass shines is faster AF and sometimes wide open aperture.
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Originally Posted by Speed Pujari Its better to wait than compromise. The proprietory lens are expensive but not all expense goes to brand premium.
My Tamron 90mm Macro performs as good as Nikkor 105mm macro BUT only till f/8. Beyond f/8 there is a clear difference in sharpness between the lenses. So the price diff is justifiable.
I do not have a reqmnt to use it beyond f/8, so I am good. |
You cannot be suggesting that You don`t use your Macro above f8, macros are meant to shine between f5.6 to f16, otherwise DOF is just not available to do macros. Unless you want to do fake tilt-shift with macro, then its a different thing.
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Originally Posted by livyodream Lemme buy a 1 lakh rupee lens (Expensive enough i guess) and take pictures. The pictures should be far better (cos of glass quality) than the cheap lens even though i dont know 80% of the features.
the point is- expensive lens adds the points for the experience one has in the field.
Peace. |
Sorry but, 1 lakh is nothing for lenses these days, my most expensive DSLR lens is around Rs.4 Lakh and i am still not satisfied with it.
Sorry but expensive lens doesn't add to experience, expensive glass adds to convenience only and maybe faster AF performance. Going nuts shooting and experimenting adds to experience.
Cheers