The TV Thread - LCD, LED etc.

Akshay1234 · 6th February 2007, 13:53

i didnt know there was a 40" mosel . thanks.

gkrishn · 6th February 2007, 13:57

If geting hd content is going to be a rarity, getting full hd content is even more of a rarity(at lest in india).

Read some where that only ps3 offers native 1080p.

Vid6639 · 6th February 2007, 14:32

1080p is overkill for regular tv content. If you dont watch HD content then it's a waste of money.

In India HD for 1080p is going to take time. To add to that I think the majority of people will buy for regular tv or once in a while DVD.

HD wont be used much.

rangaraj · 6th February 2007, 15:11

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Originally Posted by vid6639

1080p is overkill for regular tv content. If you dont watch HD content then it's a waste of money.

In India HD for 1080p is going to take time. To add to that I think the majority of people will buy for regular tv or once in a while DVD.

HD wont be used much.

Yes for regular TV as of today, but nothing prevents the guys in the DTH space to offer differentiation (with H.264 technology for HD content with current MPEG-2 bitrates) over time as the competition heats up.. You typically buy a TV once in a decade and i bet you that we will have it before that! The new dual format HD-DVD/BluRays are started to hit the market.. People thought that India is a VCD market, but see what Moser Baer has done to the India market with their prices of DVDs. Wont be long for them to start producing HD content. Besides the availability of consumer grade HD Cams from Sony etc. will make people want to shoot in HD.. The speed of adoption of technology is increasing year on year.. The time for it to hit mainstream is currently at an average of 4-5 years max and decreasing year on year..

esteem_lover · 6th February 2007, 15:31

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Originally Posted by rangaraj

You typically buy a TV once in a decade and i bet you that we will have it before that!

it was once in a decade. The newer TVs do not last for more than 5 years, even if they do

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Originally Posted by rangaraj

The speed of adoption of technology is increasing year on year.. The time for it to hit mainstream is currently at an average of 4-5 years max and decreasing year on year..

the above makes sure you want to change your set once in 5 years

gkrishn · 6th February 2007, 15:58

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Originally Posted by esteem_lover

it was once in a decade. The newer TVs do not last for more than 5 years, even if they do

Very true... the older bpl lasted so long(12 years??) that we got bored of it and gave it away... the new one lasted just about 5 years and have started giving lots of problem.

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Originally Posted by rangaraj

but nothing prevents the guys in the DTH space to offer differentiation

One thing will... who will produce the hd source for them??? I am not sure the usual, most watched mega serails need those hd content any ways. may be the sports channel will be the first to adopt. But then there will also be govt licensing thing.

Vid6639 · 6th February 2007, 16:03

Yup by the time true HD content is available there will be a newer format available and the TV's also will support more than 1080p by then.

The ones available now will become obsolete.

1080p currently is overkill and a waste of money.

At the time of 2008 Beijing Olympics we will see these. I can't give more details but I'm currently part of this product development for one of the leading LCD TV brands.

rkg · 6th February 2007, 16:49

moserbaer is now offering the film DVD's for Rs 34/ and vcd's for 28/. these are licensed copies not pirated ones. the prices are MRP. it has already released around 230 movies in tamil and malayalam. shortly we get even hindi and other languages.
like rangaraj said the technology is advancing at faster rate than imagined. so it better to wait for one/two years before jumping on to LCd wagon when within a year or two these may not cope up with the latest content. within a year both blue ray/HDDVD will become the mainstream DVD's that is for sure and price is going to be what we are paying for present DVD.
just remember the prices of lcd a year back and compare with the present.
same will happen to blue ray/hddvd . when the media is available none can prevent the availability of content. ( this is what moserbaer is doing with their latest home entertainment DVD'/VCD's offerings)

mrhap · 6th February 2007, 17:07

I think LCDs are more expensive than comparable plasmas. They are less brighter, have lesser contrast ratio and also have a problem of time lag wherein you might have issues watching sports/fast moving action sequences. It makes sense to go in for plasma tvs for 42 inches and higher. In fact a 37 inch lcd is similarly priced to a 42 inch plasma tv.

determinus · 6th February 2007, 18:44

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Originally Posted by rkg

so it better to wait for one/two years before jumping on to LCd wagon when within a year or two these may not cope up with the latest content. within a year both blue ray/HDDVD will become the mainstream DVD's that is for sure and price is going to be what we are paying for present DVD. just remember the prices of lcd a year back and compare with the present.

Something else will come up in the horizon by then. You end up not buying anything at all. My take is that digital media / HTPC will be main players going forward, and 720p is a great deal by itself. Beyond that to notice the great difference one may have to get their eyes operated or cleaned (like buying B&W speakers for 1.2L and getting ear cleaned for better hearing) LOL

As someone mentioned, if your viewing is NOT in standard test conditions, Plasma is the better buy. For me, I am a sucker for gadgets, I bought an RPTV when I had space at home. That money would have got me a 40" Boardeux/Bravia now. If you think about it, it is a never ending story. Tch, tch.

Akshay1234 · 6th February 2007, 20:53

actually lcds are brighter than plasmas, they have better resolution, consume less electricity, and weigh less. the response time is slowly being improved and will be as good as the plasmas very soon.

mrhap · 6th February 2007, 23:54

no akshay,typical lcds have a brightness quotient of 600cd/m^2 while plasma tvs have a quotient of upto 1500 cd/m^2. as for weight, yes i agree lcds are lighter, but how does it matter once u have installed ur tv on the wall/stand. the picture and quality is much better in plasma tvs and thats more important. as for refresh rates, yes lcds are getting better but still nowhere near the plasma tv range.

fb1 · 7th February 2007, 12:49

I have a ps3 and I play on 1080p sony bravia, its ****ing amazing and definitely worth it!!! I play XBOX360 on 1080i

Akshay1234 · 7th February 2007, 13:45

i thought the 360 only supported upto 720p?

fb1 · 10th February 2007, 14:15

i said i play x360 on 1080i and ps3 on 1080p

its damn good

6th February 2007, 13:53	#91
Akshay1234 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 10,265 Thanked: 12,317 Times	i didnt know there was a 40" mosel . thanks.
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6th February 2007, 13:57	#92
gkrishn BHPian Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 626 Thanked: 93 Times View My Garage	If geting hd content is going to be a rarity, getting full hd content is even more of a rarity(at lest in india). Read some where that only ps3 offers native 1080p.
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6th February 2007, 14:32	#93
Vid6639 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 17,730 Thanked: 43,483 Times View My Garage	1080p is overkill for regular tv content. If you dont watch HD content then it's a waste of money. In India HD for 1080p is going to take time. To add to that I think the majority of people will buy for regular tv or once in a while DVD. HD wont be used much.
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6th February 2007, 16:03	#97
Vid6639 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 17,730 Thanked: 43,483 Times View My Garage	Yup by the time true HD content is available there will be a newer format available and the TV's also will support more than 1080p by then. The ones available now will become obsolete. 1080p currently is overkill and a waste of money. At the time of 2008 Beijing Olympics we will see these. I can't give more details but I'm currently part of this product development for one of the leading LCD TV brands.
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6th February 2007, 16:49	#98
rkg Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: bangalore Posts: 1,044 Thanked: 594 Times	moserbaer is now offering the film DVD's for Rs 34/ and vcd's for 28/. these are licensed copies not pirated ones. the prices are MRP. it has already released around 230 movies in tamil and malayalam. shortly we get even hindi and other languages. like rangaraj said the technology is advancing at faster rate than imagined. so it better to wait for one/two years before jumping on to LCd wagon when within a year or two these may not cope up with the latest content. within a year both blue ray/HDDVD will become the mainstream DVD's that is for sure and price is going to be what we are paying for present DVD. just remember the prices of lcd a year back and compare with the present. same will happen to blue ray/hddvd . when the media is available none can prevent the availability of content. ( this is what moserbaer is doing with their latest home entertainment DVD'/VCD's offerings)
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6th February 2007, 17:07	#99
mrhap BHPian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: DELHI Posts: 39 Thanked: 0 Times	I think LCDs are more expensive than comparable plasmas. They are less brighter, have lesser contrast ratio and also have a problem of time lag wherein you might have issues watching sports/fast moving action sequences. It makes sense to go in for plasma tvs for 42 inches and higher. In fact a 37 inch lcd is similarly priced to a 42 inch plasma tv.
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6th February 2007, 20:53	#101
Akshay1234 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 10,265 Thanked: 12,317 Times	actually lcds are brighter than plasmas, they have better resolution, consume less electricity, and weigh less. the response time is slowly being improved and will be as good as the plasmas very soon.
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6th February 2007, 23:54	#102
mrhap BHPian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: DELHI Posts: 39 Thanked: 0 Times	no akshay,typical lcds have a brightness quotient of 600cd/m^2 while plasma tvs have a quotient of upto 1500 cd/m^2. as for weight, yes i agree lcds are lighter, but how does it matter once u have installed ur tv on the wall/stand. the picture and quality is much better in plasma tvs and thats more important. as for refresh rates, yes lcds are getting better but still nowhere near the plasma tv range.
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7th February 2007, 12:49	#103
fb1 BHPian Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chennai Posts: 186 Thanked: 8 Times	I have a ps3 and I play on 1080p sony bravia, its ****ing amazing and definitely worth it!!! I play XBOX360 on 1080i
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7th February 2007, 13:45	#104
Akshay1234 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 10,265 Thanked: 12,317 Times	i thought the 360 only supported upto 720p?
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10th February 2007, 14:15	#105
fb1 BHPian Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chennai Posts: 186 Thanked: 8 Times	i said i play x360 on 1080i and ps3 on 1080p its damn good
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