[Nithesh_M]

Need help.

So my wife ordered the Philips 5362/01 in the Great Indian festival sale. Unfortunately we didn't notice many reviews warning us about the European plug that comes attached with it.

Philips PowerPro FC9352/01-Compact Bagless Vacuum Cleaner for Home |1900Watts for Powerful Suction |Compact and Lightweight| PowerCyclone 5 Technology and MultiClean Nozzle |2 Years Warranty https://amzn.in/d/86zPaBZ

Now I have two 20A switches in my kitchen to spare but this 2 pin 16A/250V plug isn't fitting into it because of the stupid safety lock inside the socket. And I think even otherwise, the 2 pins in the plug is too wide for the socket.

So I have been looking at extension boards and to my annoyance most 16A extension boards online have the same safety thing inside sockets which won't let me plug my 2pin vacuum cord.

Electrician suggested we snip the plug and install normal 3pin plug on the vacuum cleaner but I'm not sure of it since I assume it will void warranty.

Does anyone have a solution? Is there a modular 16A socket I can buy and replace my existing 20A socket in kitchen?

I've heard extension boards get hot with vacuum cleaner so unsure which way to go. Its been 2 weeks since it got delivered and I haven't even been able to use it.

[Vid6639]

Originally Posted by Nithesh_M

Need help.

So my wife ordered the Philips 5362/01 in the Great Indian festival sale. Unfortunately we didn't notice many reviews warning us about the European plug that comes attached with it.

Philips PowerPro FC9352/01-Compact Bagless Vacuum Cleaner for Home |1900Watts for Powerful Suction |Compact and Lightweight| PowerCyclone 5 Technology and MultiClean Nozzle |2 Years Warranty https://amzn.in/d/86zPaBZ

Does anyone have a solution? Is there a modular 16A socket I can buy and replace my existing 20A socket in kitchen?

You can use this:

https://www.amazon.in/gp/product/B0B...e?ie=UTF8&th=1

Or:

https://www.amazon.in/gp/product/B07...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

[Nithesh_M]

Originally Posted by Vid6639

You can use this:

https://www.amazon.in/gp/product/B0B...e?ie=UTF8&th=1

Or:

https://www.amazon.in/gp/product/B07...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

These are 6 to 16A converters? I have two of those but from what I gathered reading on this thread and the internet, at 1900W its better to avoid plugging the vacuum cleaner into 6A plugs with a 16A converter as it will not withstand the loads and temperatures since the 6A socket and the wiring inside is only rated to draw upto 1400W maximum.

[Vid6639]

Originally Posted by Nithesh_M

These are 6 to 16A converters? I have two of those but from what I gathered reading on this thread and the internet, at 1900W its better to avoid plugging the vacuum cleaner into 6A plugs with a 16A converter as it will not withstand the loads and temperatures since the 6A socket and the wiring inside is only rated to draw upto 1400W maximum.

The 16A plug point will have a small plug pin option as well. You can plug into the 16A point and use this adapter.

[Kiyon]

I have the same Vacuum cleaner and i just walked to the nearby Electric shop and got this Extendor done. The cost is based on the length of wire and guage. Select the one which can handle 16A 20A and also a good socket brand. (I choose ANCHRO ROMA).
I have never faced any heating issues and using it from one year plus.
It also helps me to use the vacuum in rooms with no 16AMP points at accessible heights and gives me more range of another 10 mtrs in my parking lot.



Something similar https://amzn.in/d/fIWbo8o

[itwasntme]

Originally Posted by Vid6639

You can use this:

Yup, buy a good one and ensure the vacuum cleaner plug fits snugly into it AND the adapter pins fit equally snugly into the wall socket.

We have used one for a 2200 watt iron for 2+ years now with zero issues.

Originally Posted by Kiyon

I have the same Vacuum cleaner and i just walked to the nearby Electric shop and got this Extendor done.

I have an identical one which I use for my corded leaf blower and Karcher pressure washer + vacuum cleaner in the garage. Very useful for many sudden requirements.

[Thad E Ginathom]

Electrical Safety Note!

Do not use a coiled extension cable for high loads. It gets hot, and is a fire risk. Not just theoretical: I have seen one start to smoke.

[Nithesh_M]

Originally Posted by Kiyon

I have the same Vacuum cleaner and i just walked to the nearby Electric shop and got this Extendor done. The cost is based on the length of wire and guage. Select the one which can handle 16A 20A and also a good socket brand. (I choose ANCHRO ROMA).
I have never faced any heating issues and using it from one year plus.

How do you insert the 2 pin plugs in that thing? Push the safety thing up with screwdriver?

Also what size wire did you pick(1.5mm, 2.5mm etc) and what's the total length of extension cable?
I also have 2 20A sockets in kitchen only and the one in bedroom is mounted high with the ac so unplugging that every time to clean is not worth it.

Originally Posted by Thad E Ginathom

Electrical Safety Note!

Do not use a coiled extension cable for high loads. It gets hot, and is a fire risk. Not just theoretical: I have seen one start to smoke.

Coiled meaning the one that has cable coiled around extension box? Or you mean don't let thee long custom wires get coiled around? Or both?

[Kiyon]

Originally Posted by Nithesh_M

How do you insert the 2 pin plugs in that thing? Push the safety thing up with screwdriver?

Try a plastic pen or wood piece to just push ofcourse with switch off . The socket I choose has a convenient flap to easily do so.

Originally Posted by Nithesh_M

Also what size wire did you pick(1.5mm, 2.5mm etc) and what's the total length of extension cable?
I also have 2 20A sockets in kitchen only and the one in bedroom is mounted high with the ac so unplugging that every time to clean is not worth it.

Yes 2.5 Sq mm * 3 core .
Length as per your need. I had only limited 16AMP sockets around at accessible height and i wanted to use this as car wash extension too hence got around 10 mtrs.
Once plugged in I can run around the entire house vacumming.
But of late I am lazy to do this too and looking at easy cordless vacuums for quick short runs to be honest.
But again you would never get the suction that you get with this and the duration you can run. So this is good for that once in a while deep cleaning.

Originally Posted by Nithesh_M

Coiled meaning the one that has cable coiled around extension box? Or you mean don't let thee long custom wires get coiled around? Or both?

Yes the one which is coiled to save space and flexible. And also dont let the wires coil around and touch when in use. More the surface area exposed more is the heat dissipation. In coiled it puts a hot wire against another hot wire so the heat cannot easily dissipate.

[Aviator_guy]

Originally Posted by Nithesh_M

Now I have two 20A switches in my kitchen to spare but this 2 pin 16A/250V plug isn't fitting into it because of the stupid safety lock inside the socket. And I think even otherwise, the 2 pins in the plug is too wide for the socket.

Did you try to open/lift the safety lock on third pin using a wooden pencil or screwdriver (when switch is off) and then push the plug in?

[Nithesh_M]

Originally Posted by Aviator_guy

Did you try to open/lift the safety lock on third pin using a wooden pencil or screwdriver (when switch is off) and then push the plug in?

Yes. The lock is a bit too tight to move with any object and it only seems to move if I insert a 3 piece plug. Which is weird because the switches were all installed about 2 years ago.

[Aviator_guy]

Originally Posted by Nithesh_M

Yes. The lock is a bit too tight to move with any object and it only seems to move if I insert a 3 piece plug. Which is weird because the switches were all installed about 2 years ago.

Oh that's weird. Usually this trick should work, may be to do with the lock design or this particular brand.

[Nithesh_M]

Originally Posted by Kiyon

I have the same Vacuum cleaner and i just walked to the nearby Electric shop and got this Extendor done.
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Went to local electrician. Showed him this. Told him to make one for 5m as the vacuum already has a long enough cable to reach every room from a common point almost.

Question: would adding a fuse to the extender make it any more safer than without one? I got a quote of 720 for 5m extender with your sized wires and a fuse and I'm not sure if it includes labour charges.

Is a fuse not needed here or am I being too cautious?

Is there a good brand for these wires and switches one would recommend? I know Anchor makes good switches today.

[srini1785]

Originally Posted by Nithesh_M

Question: would adding a fuse to the extender make it any more safer than without one? I got a quote of 720 for 5m extender with your sized wires and a fuse and I'm not sure if it includes labour charges.

How do you decide the fuse rating? maybe the cleaner itself has an inbuilt fuse. Check the manual.

1900W wow! we sometimes use vacuum conveyors for transporting powder and they don't use that much power even at peak load.

[Kiyon]

Well anything extra safe wont hurt.

The device in discussion here is rated 220-230V 50/60HZ with Max 1900W so in theory it should draw no more than 8.64 Amps..

So your fuse should be rated atleast for handling 10 AMP plus. Anythng less then your fuse keeps blowing out and you wont be able to use the device. Tell the electrician that you intend to use this with 2000 Or 2500W(15 Amp fuse) device.

Again you are using this device to draw power from 16AMP heating circuit and in most houses you should already be having a MCB to trip if the device shorts or draws more than that power rating of 16 AMP ( Some times 20 AMP).

I remember paying 1K plus for 10 M with the cable i have posted with Anchor Switch box. I am using from an year with no issues so far.


This is all not worth the hassle if you are happy with the cable length and it reaches all corners of the house from a common switch. All that you need is change the existing point which is stuck with a new one , something like below (quick and easy )
This one is from Havells and you can easily push the earthing hole with plastic.