[Aroy]

Originally Posted by Nano45

Hi ........................
1. Looks like many people had bought Panasonic and LG ACs recently.
I had one question for those who bought LG and Panasonic a couple of years back
Q. Is it true that companies like LG, Panasonic, Samsung fails to maintain the same cooling performance after 3 years of usage? Also, do they fail miserably when temperature raises to 45-46 degrees C in summers?

2.What's your opinion about Voltas? I haven't seen any suggestions to go for Voltas AC. 1 out of 2 ACs in my Brother-in-law village is Voltas. He also bought two 1.5ton 3-star inverter Acs in 2021 and he keeps insisting me to purchase the same.

So, if first question is just a myth, which brand should I consider between those two? or should I go with Voltas.


Note: My hometown is very rural area and the nearby town is 70kms away. The power quality is absurd, the voltage ranges from 250 volts to ceiling fans stops rotating. So, The company should have good service backup if any problem arises.

1. Any AC will degrade cooling with time as the Heat Exchanger gets clogged with dust. So you have to clean the IDU and ODU heat exchangers (radiator, Fins) regularly. I get my BR LG cleaned every two to three months and you have to see it believe the amount of muck that comes out. The water is black.

Delhi is facing 40+ regularly for nearly a month. If your AC is sized properly these temperatures are nothing for the AC. To give you and example, for nearly 20 years we had 1.5T AC in our BR. Come peak summer and the room would not cool enough in the day time. Last year we changed the AC from 1.5T to 2T. Lo and behold the 44+ temperatures are taken care of.

So if you undersize the AC (for peak heat load), it may be fine below 40 degrees, but would fall short when it is 40+.

2. All AC's require sustained and prompt maintenance. So an AC is as good as the maintenance backup. LG has one of the best maintenance teams (at least in Delhi) and their parts cost (out side warranty period) are the lowest. In contrast my experience with Daikin and Hitachi has be diametrically opposite. The service sucks and parts are at least two to three times that of LG/Samsung.

3. In good old days of reciprocating compressors, Voltas had the best AC and service. Now a days with rotary compressors and inverter (DC) technology Voltas has lagged behing the Korean/Japanese brands. It has plans to start manufacturing compressors in India with foreign colaboration.

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[mukeshgoel]

Hi guys, I need to buy a 2 Ton AC today itself.

The AC will be used approximately 3 hours daily.

These are the models I have shortlisted based on suggestions given on this thread.:

LG 2 Ton 3 Star (Actual 1.8 Ton, 6300w) TS-Q24ENXE - Rs.49000

Mitusbishi Electric 1.9 Ton 4 Star (6600w) MSY-GN22VF - Rs.62000

Mitusbishi Electric 1.9 Ton 4 Star (6600w) MSY-GR22VF - Rs.64000

* Mitsubishi AC are made in Thailand and comes without standard pipes, etc.
* LG AC prices are online price and Mitsubishi AC prices are from a dealer.

Please suggest which one should I go for.

[Aroy]

Originally Posted by mukeshgoel

Hi guys, I need to buy a 2 Ton AC today itself.

The AC will be used approximately 3 hours daily.

These are the models I have shortlisted based on suggestions given on this thread.:

LG 2 Ton 3 Star (Actual 1.8 Ton, 6300w) TS-Q24ENXE - Rs.49000

Mitusbishi Electric 1.9 Ton 4 Star (6600w) MSY-GN22VF - Rs.62000

Mitusbishi Electric 1.9 Ton 4 Star (6600w) MSY-GR22VF - Rs.64000

* Mitsubishi AC are made in Thailand and comes without standard pipes, etc.
* LG AC prices are online price and Mitsubishi AC prices are from a dealer.

Please suggest which one should I go for.

Go to the nearest LG shop and negotiate the price. They have a lot of schemes for discounts using credit cards.

[Sebring]

If price isnt the matter, go for mitsubishi. Its the rolls Royce among ACs. Happy customer for over 7 years now!

Originally Posted by mukeshgoel

Hi guys, I need to buy a 2 Ton AC today itself.

[Shreyans_Jain]

Originally Posted by mukeshgoel

Hi guys, I need to buy a 2 Ton AC today itself.

The AC will be used approximately 3 hours daily.

These are the models I have shortlisted based on suggestions given on this thread.:

LG 2 Ton 3 Star (Actual 1.8 Ton, 6300w) TS-Q24ENXE - Rs.49000

Mitusbishi Electric 1.9 Ton 4 Star (6600w) MSY-GN22VF - Rs.62000

Mitusbishi Electric 1.9 Ton 4 Star (6600w) MSY-GR22VF - Rs.64000

* Mitsubishi AC are made in Thailand and comes without standard pipes, etc.
* LG AC prices are online price and Mitsubishi AC prices are from a dealer.

Please suggest which one should I go for.

Go for Mitsubishi with your eyes closed. Product is far superior and will provide reliable service for years. Mitsubishi and General are class apart, well worth the premium over LG, Voltas and Co.

[Ks2790]

Originally Posted by mukeshgoel

Hi guys, I need to buy a 2 Ton AC today itself.

The AC will be used approximately 3 hours daily.

These are the models I have shortlisted based on suggestions given on this thread.:

LG 2 Ton 3 Star (Actual 1.8 Ton, 6300w) TS-Q24ENXE - Rs.49000

Mitusbishi Electric 1.9 Ton 4 Star (6600w) MSY-GN22VF - Rs.62000

Mitusbishi Electric 1.9 Ton 4 Star (6600w) MSY-GR22VF - Rs.64000

* Mitsubishi AC are made in Thailand and comes without standard pipes, etc.
* LG AC prices are online price and Mitsubishi AC prices are from a dealer.

Please suggest which one should I go for.

Mitsubishi Electric would be my preferred choice, as I have 8 of them at my place in Greater Noida. MSY- GN22VF in particular cools the master bedroom of 200+ sqft with one west facing wall, and the cooling is beyond compare. If you run the AC on higher fan speeds, then go for GN, but if you’re like me who prefers whisper quiet operation- go for GR, as the indoor units are bigger and the lowest fan speed out of 5 serves me well in all other bedrooms.
Having owned Generals and imported Daikins all over the last 2 decades, I can vouch for the quality of Mitsubishi Electric in particular. Recently replaced my last General ASGA18FTTA of 9 years with a GRT 1.5 ton, and I have no complaints whatsoever. Feel free to ask more.

Also, do note- not everyone in India, including dealers know that Mitsubishi acs have EASY CLEAN technology wherein the left right swings can be pulled out to clean the fan blower as a DIY. I do it for all my GRs and GRTs plus the GKs
( remember it’s there only on bigger indoor units). It’s a plus, given how dirty the fan blower gets within just 2 months in the run of 9 months that I use them.

[callvvijay]

Friends, need some advice here. The AC in our bedroom has gone kaputt and I have to replace it now.

Our trusted AC mechanic asked us to go for a non-inverter AC. However, my research in the internet says that inverter ACs are better in terms of energy efficiency & life. What's your take on this?

I'm thinking of getting one by tomorrow itself positively - so, request response at the earliest.

Cheers!

[Maverick Avi]

Originally Posted by callvvijay

Friends, need some advice here. The AC in our bedroom has gone kaputt and I have to replace it now.

Our trusted AC mechanic asked us to go for a non-inverter AC. However, my research in the internet says that inverter ACs are better in terms of energy efficiency & life. What's your take on this?

I'm thinking of getting one by tomorrow itself positively - so, request response at the earliest.

Cheers!

Inverter compressors are the future. They are better in almost all aspects keeping aside PCB failures which has been overhyped these days. Most companies are coming up with minimum 5 yrs PCB warranty which you should definitely consider while making your purchase.

Inverter acs are not only more comfortable as their compressors do not completely shut down when desired temperature is maintained they are also very energy efficient and have the option of running at various energy levels like 30, 40, 60, 80, 100 percent. If I am buying an AC today I would definitely opt for inverter.

[self_driven]

Originally Posted by callvvijay

Friends, need some advice here. The AC in our bedroom has gone kaputt and I have to replace it now.

I'm thinking of getting one by tomorrow itself positively - so, request response at the earliest.

For a bedroom, inverter is the way to go. Variable compressor speed allows your AC to maintain a comfortable temperature easily. Non-inverter ACs are fixed speed, so the compressor cuts on and off in between, which is not something you want when you're trying to have a good sleep.

Non-inverters are more suited for large halls and living areas where too many people and frequent opening/closing of doors etc. makes it difficult to maintain the same temperature for long.

Regarding reliability, I agree PCB failures are more frequent and expensive in inverter ACs. But that's a fair trade-off for the added convenience it offers for 4-5 years in service. Beyond that, most ACs of today's times be it inverter or non-inverter are equally likely to develop problems.

[Aroy]

Originally Posted by callvvijay

Friends, need some advice here. The AC in our bedroom has gone kaputt and I have to replace it now.

Our trusted AC mechanic asked us to go for a non-inverter AC. However, my research in the internet says that inverter ACs are better in terms of energy efficiency & life. What's your take on this?

.......................
Cheers!

Go for Inverter AC. Some manufacturers have stopped making non inverter AC for consumer segment.

We have now 5 LG Inverter AC, and are quite happy with their performance. A properly designed Inverter AC is proof against normal voltage swings (160-290 in most cases).

If you want to get additional peace of mind get 5 years extended warranty. We have one for each AC. It is quite reasonable ~ 10K and includes - 2 annual services, all parts and labour including gas and heat exchangers. Other manufacturers have similar schemes. LG manufactures in India so spares should not be a problem , unlike for imported machines.

[Gansan]

Originally Posted by callvvijay

Friends, need some advice here.

Go for non inverter. It is still available in General, Mitsubishi and a few other brands. At home we are going to run mostly a couple of ACs for may be 7-8 (+/-) hours each day usually, the difference amount spent on power bill as compared to inverter Ac will not be so big. But there will be much less possibility of something going off from time to time. If we are running multiple units for many hours, then inverter ac makes sense.

I have one old non inverter ac and one Whirlpool inverter ac which is in the fifth year now. It needed gas filling/parts replacement almost every year. Amc took care of it for four years but they have refused to renew it for the fifth year, and I spent 5k last week on service and gas filling.

The moment a pcb goes and they demand 15k for replacemant, I will replace the Ac with a non inverter unit by spending an additional 15k.

[Sebring]

Long back I had installed mitsubishi in Bangalore and mentioned it here for the first time. it's a great product indeed. Good to know it is still the preferred choice. In the middle east I buy only General, as it suits the scorching conditions better

Originally Posted by Shreyans_Jain

Go for Mitsubishi with your eyes closed. Product is far superior and will provide reliable service for years. Mitsubishi and General are class apart, well worth the premium over LG, Voltas and Co.

[PPS]

Bought a 1 ton 3 star Voltas (Vectra Elegant) Split AC last week from Vijay Sales for 30k! Booked on Thursday evening, delivered on Friday & installed by Saturday afternoon. Installation charges came to around 2.1k. Got 1.5k for my 7yr old 0.75ton Window AC which was basically scrap.

[vinu_h]

Good morning. The OEM designated technician claims that this drip is normal but I do not think so.

This AC is barely 6 months old and the drip(image) is moderate. The output pipe for water is at a downward angle with no obstructions. I have 2 other AC's at home and they do not behave this way. Haier fortunately has a process which allows for handing over of a code only when the complainant is satisfied with the job.

Is this drip normal ?

[Thad E Ginathom]

Originally Posted by vinu_h

Is this drip normal ?

That's condensation. I am used to seeing it from exposed cold valves and/or piping on the external unit. I'm not used to seeing it forming on the cabinet. This unit must have some cold component near the case on the inside.

If it is normal, I'd say that that is a design fault. Perhaps not a very serious one, but energy is getting wasted and it cannot be good for the paint.

Just my opinion: others may be better informed.