re: The 2017 Force Gurkha Quote:
Originally Posted by himanshugoswami Would it really kill Force India to give half decent interiors to match the stunning exterior looks? This vehicle has the potential to be the Indian equivalent of a Defender if not the G wagen. If only the company has the inclination to do something about it. |
In all fairness to Force Motors, they have made good changes to the Chasis/suspension/steering. However, as you pointed out the dash is horrendous. But even that one can eventually live it, but the engine output is not worthy of a vehicle that costs over Rs. 12 Lakhs on the road. Quote:
Originally Posted by cool_dube Looks stunning indeed, from the outside but hold on... the engine?! Would I pay 12+ lac on-road (in KA) for something that develops a meager 85 bhp and 230 NM? Anybody's guess...
Edit - just saw the complete list of specs. Imagine this engine pulling a 2.5 ton vehicle What an abysmally low power:weight ratio. What were the chaps at FM smoking when they approved this "re-launch" Really sad to see such potent vehicle being wasted... |
Force has the license to manufacture the older Merc CRDe 2.2 engine which is now coming in some versions of the Tempo Traveller. Given that this vehicle is pushing 10 lakhs ex showroom, they should have just plonked the 2.2 and added the extra cost the price. Quote:
Originally Posted by BeantownThinker But the Xplorer has higher ground clearance than the Xpedition (by about 1.5cm) and is lesser than 4m in length (at about 3992mm) thus getting the excise benefit. Did not see any other difference apart from these.
So then why is the 3-door Xplorer more expensive than the 5-door Xpedition? |
To get excise benefit, it has to be under 4 meters and also have a engine capacity less than 1500 cc( for diesels) . The Gurkha has a 2.6 and hence cannot get the excise benefits even for the 3-Door Version.
The reason why explorer is more is because it has the 4WD hardware and diff locks, which the expedition dosn't have. the expedition is purely 2WD. Quote:
Originally Posted by VKumar Now the explorer version is available in both 3 door and 5 door trims, so probably they have decided not to put the specs of expedition version on the website. | Quote:
Originally Posted by BeantownThinker Damn, this getting ever more confusing. They have given the specs of the 3-door AND 5-door Xplorer as well as the specs of the 5-door Xpedition. |
The Explorer has 4WD and diff locks and can be had in 3-Door or 5-Door configuration. The Expedition comes with 2WD and is available only in 5-Door version. The website has been updated and is pretty clear on this aspect. Quote:
Originally Posted by Frankenstein This develops 23kgm at 1400rpm, what about the thar? |
Thar CRDe is about 26kgm from about 1650 rpm. The engine capacity is the same. Given that the FM2.6 is a Mercedes derived unit, they should have given atleast the same power specs as the Thar CRDe engine, i.e 105bhp/26kgm Torque. 85/23 is not something one can live with after spending 12 lakhs on the road. Quote:
Originally Posted by Frankenstein Suspension looks comfortable but pricing gone wrong . |
Oh yeah, this thing should be way more comfortable than the Thar. If they put a decent engine and better interiors, I think the price is okay. Quote:
Originally Posted by Frankenstein Isuzu pickup is just a lakh more. |
BTW you are comparing ex-show room with on-road price. If you look at Onroad price there is a 4 lakh difference. Gurkha is about 12 lakhs on the road and V-Cross about 16 Lakhs. Quote:
Originally Posted by 1100D To give credit where its due, the styling department got it spot on!! |
Absolutely love the styling. Glad they are going back to the original design, after the disastrous 4x4x4x4x4 version. |