[shaheenazk]

This guy was doing a review and look what was spotted...shoddy underbody work. This is highly unexpected from Kia!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFxr1zvadKk

[reignofchaos]

Looks like damage from scraping something.

[OSH]

Originally Posted by shaheenazk

This guy was doing a review and look what was spotted...shoddy underbody work.

If you are talking about those parallel white lines, that is silicone. It is used to stop water ingress from joints in the sheet metal. It is present in most of the cars and applied in a much more shabby manner. For some cars, it can be seen even on the inside of the spare wheel's tub.

The other scuff marks cannot be from the factory. This media drive vehicle must have been "tested" by some great driver without taking much care, resulting in that damage.

[amrutmhatre90]

Originally Posted by shaheenazk

This guy was doing review and look what was spotted...shoddy underbody work. This is highly unexpected from MG!

Originally Posted by OSH

If you are talking about those parallel white lines, that is silicone. It is used to stop water ingress from joints in the sheet metal. It is present in most of the cars and applied in a much more shabby manner. For some cars it can be seen even on the inside of the spare wheel's tub.

The other scuff marks cannot be from factory. This media drive vehicle must have been "tested" by some great driver without taking much care, resulting in that damage.

I read or heard somewhere the ground clearance is around 170-180mm and it does scrape on some bumps and speed breakers. One thing I couldn't digest is how did KIA miss this feedback while testing the car? One possibility could be the car was tested without passenger weights. But even without weights it does bottom out, quite surprising.

[OSH]

Originally Posted by amrutmhatre90

I read or heard somewhere the ground clearance is around 170-180mm and it does scrape on some bumps and speed breakers.

Yes, even I had read that its just 180 mm (unladen) which will further go down when 7/8/9 people are going to sit in. Just for reference, hatchbacks/sedans have around 165 mm clearance. 15 mm more means its just 1.5 cm more than 5 seater cars.

On top of that, the spare wheel is not located at the rear underside but its towards the middle of the car, close to the RHS sliding door IIRC. That centre region is the most prone to scraping on speed bumps and I dont know how that steel wheel will save itself from getting bent/damaged if it keeps getting hit due to the low ground clearance. The long wheelbase of >3m is going to make matters worse.

I don't think this car is going to be easy to live with on a daily basis. Highway trips will be fun but city driving will be that much painful.

[Vmv]

Visited the KIA showroom to checkout the Carnival.
Indeed the car is very spacious

Smart folding 3rd Row





Side sliding doors can be operated using
1. The Key
2. Switch above the IRVM
3. Inner and outer door handles
4. Switch near to the 2nd row seat


Hand brake or Leg brake ? 2 Leg brakes







Not a drivers car , I think so.
Good quality materials and switches


1. Spare wheels are located below the 2 row seat
2. Sliding door having anti pinch feature
3. Front infotainment touch screen size is small, Seltos scores here.
4. Gear box is CVT and auto only all models, as per the KIA team it is tuned well
5. Only the front doors are manually open, side and boot are fully electrical
6. Foot steps are mandatory for elders
7. Regular 2 pin electric plug is available for Charing laptop and phone in second row, and a switch to on/off is available for the same

We booked the top end model for my brother's friend

[shaheenazk]

Originally Posted by OSH

If you are talking about those parallel white lines, that is silicone. It is used to stop water ingress from joints in the sheet metal. It is present in most of the cars and applied in a much more shabby manner. For some cars it can be seen even on the inside of the spare wheel's tub.

The other scuff marks cannot be from factory. This media drive vehicle must have been "tested" by some great driver without taking much care, resulting in that damage.


Kia*

I am referring to the grey scrap marks in the middle and damage to the white lines at the right hand bottom of the picture.

My bad, I meant KIA but wrote MG!

[Durango Dude]

Punting this behemoth in traffic would be a tiring experience. 5 mtrs long 2 mtrs wide more than 3 mtrs wheelbase. One would have to do a proper research of where to park this car before venturing out. It's slab sides would collect dings and scrapes. It's meant for the highways. Some of the ramps in malls may not accommodate the Carnival's dimensions.

[rrsteer]

I am not too impressed with the seating in the 3rd row. There is space alright, but its not a comfortable seat for adults - as the under thigh support is missing and you sit with your thighs pointing upwards.

[AirbusCapt]

Originally Posted by Durango Dude

Punting this behemoth in traffic would be a tiring experience. 5 mtrs long 2 mtrs wide more than 3 mtrs wheelbase. One would have to do a proper research of where to park this car before venturing out. It's slab sides would collect dings and scrapes. It's meant for the highways. Some of the ramps in malls may not accommodate the Carnival's dimensions.

Not true. I drove a Hexa for two years. Sold it ding and scratch free. Took it everywhere from congested city streets to unpaved plantations. Dimension wise the Hexa is 1900 mm wide versus Kia which is 1985mm, 4.9 meters long versus Kia which is 5.1 m and quite slab sided. Regarding the Kia, where an endeavour can park the Kia can park

[itwasntme]

One disconcerting query is that I read somewhere that this heavy MUV has a anaemic 135/90/R17 space-saver tyre instead of the 235/60/R18 stock rim/tyre. From what I can find on the Net, it also needs to be at a staggering 60 psi. How many people will actually keep it at that pressure I wonder? If they do not, and utilize the spare it will certainly blow out if abused even a bit.

Refer:
http://www.kiacarnivalmanual.com/car...nd_wheels.html
http://www.kiacarnivalmanual.com/car...ing_tires.html

Is this not a serious lacunae in KIA's planning for the Indian Carnival? With a GVW of ~2.5 tons and with 7-9 people on board, I'd say it is dicey on anything but the best of our highways. The maximum speed limit also seems to be 80 km/hr. However, the maximum duration for running on the space-saver is not mentioned. Multiple OZ reviewers have also highlighted the same as they have loads of gravel roads and minor offroading is very common given their general outdoorsy nature.

I am assuming cabbies will end up keeping a full size tyre in the boot on highway runs. I haven't seen any of the video reviews but has any reviewer extracted and seen the spare tyre yet?

Just look at the differences in width:

[nisshith]

Kia configuration details in depth.

https://youtu.be/TMeRr-ZJxwA

[avinash_clt]

Originally Posted by Vmv

4. Gear box is CVT and auto only all models, as per the KIA team it is tuned well

The 8-speed auto on the Carnival is not a CVT, but a conventional automatic (Torque converter + planetary gear-sets). In-fact this transmission is an in-house development, where they were able to package the 8-speed unit even better than their previous 6-speeder.

Note: It is one of the rare in-house development for 6+ ratio automatic transmissions. Most other OEMs have used transmissions from ZF (9-speed: FCA, Honda), Aisin (8-speed: Volvo) and other suppliers for their front transverse applications. Some additional info below in the video and this press-release.

Kia 8-speed Auto: Basic Details

[Vmv]

Originally Posted by avinash_clt

The 8-speed auto on the Carnival is not a CVT, but a conventional automatic (Torque converter + planetary gear-sets). In-fact this transmission is an in-house development, where they were able to package the 8-speed unit even better than their previous 6-speeder.

Ohh. My bad
Probably the SA or me was wrongly listened

Thank you for enlightening the same

[amitjha086]

Kia Carnival as seen in the parking lot of my workplace in Nepal. According to the registration plate, it must be at least two years old.