[purohitanuj]

Originally Posted by shankar.balan

Not true.
Jimny booking stands at 25K.
Please see screenshot attached.
And the cancellation is Rs 500.
I checked all this just now.

Im very Tempted to book but am holding off.

The screenshot clearly says that 500 deduction will only apply if you cancel after price reveal. This is what was told from the beginning.

[shortbread]

Originally Posted by ZenMaster

Unlike Mahindra who can't sell the THAR in most countries.

The Jimny isn't sold in the biggest car markets in the world not, in North America, Europe etc... and while this is novel for us, this Jimny is already more than 5 years old.

M&M on the other hand have production constraints and currently cannot make enough cars to meet demand. Remember the Scorpion is based on the Thar platform and exports for the former have already started.

[Samurai]

Originally Posted by shortbread

M&M on the other hand have production constraints and currently cannot make enough cars to meet demand.

That's because Jeep/FCA will sue them anywhere outside of India for cloning Wrangler.

[purohitanuj]

Originally Posted by Caesar

I think we are all slowly warming up to the idea that Suzuki will milk us to the best of their abilities.
A price once quoted is seldom rolled back, even for duds or DOAs; in the interest of maintaining the manufacturer's credibility.
It is a sellers market, with me experiencing subpar interactions at Suzuki, Hyundai, Mahindra showrooms that I recently visited. I do not think others would be too different.
In fact, at Hyundai, instead of responding to my greeting, the sales person pointed to the white board with the waiting periods listed.
So let us wait for 7th June and take a call after that. I don't think Suzuki is looking at this discussion board to modulate their prices two weeks ahead of announcement. It seems that these speculations are doing nothing more than giving us panic attacks twice a day.

Yes you are right. For the Jimny, with the export orders in hand, Suzuki wont mind it being dead in Indian market anyways. India was not the primary market to start with ( for the 3 door one) , nor will be for the 5 door one. We all can cry that 5 door was made for India, but let get realistic that Australians are a better market for 5 door as well.

[DicKy]

Originally Posted by purohitanuj

We all can cry that 5 door was made for India, but let get realistic that Australians are a better market for 5 door as well.

Not quite so I guess. Even if the Jimny 5 door gets into the top selling five car list in Australia, it would be still lower than the lowest selling Maruti numbers.

[purohitanuj]

Originally Posted by DicKy

Not quite so I guess. Even if the Jimny 5 door gets into the top selling five car list in Australia, it would be still lower than the lowest selling Maruti numbers.

Yes that I get, but in many interviews, Shashank already admits it to not be a mass seller but a niche product. MS is not after volume, but after fat margins. Take Toyota for an example.

Key pointed noted by me for Jimny Buyer:
1. City Person
2. Wants to reflect as a "status" symbol
3. Wants a lifestyle vehicle (like a second or third car)
4. May be does not want 4x4 hardware but is happy to have one for that 1 time use
5. Looking for a Premium product

[Caesar]

Originally Posted by purohitanuj

Yes that I get, but in many interviews, Shashank already admits it to not be a mass seller but a niche product. MS is not after volume, but after fat margins. Take Toyota for an example.

Key pointed noted by me for Jimny Buyer:
1. City Person
2. Wants to reflect as a "status" symbol
3. Wants a lifestyle vehicle (like a second or third car)
4. May be does not want 4x4 hardware but is happy to have one for that 1 time use
5. Looking for a Premium product

Precisely. In fact Shashank alluded to the target audience also comprising of folks who want to look sporty, and not necessarily into the sport. He was quick to add this category on when that Autocar guy mentioned this catering to a specific set of folks.
So I want to look like a sports person, while I am not, and now Suzuki has called it out that I might be one of those just wanting to look the part. Oh what a predicament. I'd have to kick up some dust to qualify as truly sporty.

[DicKy]

Originally Posted by purohitanuj

Yes that I get, but in many interviews, Shashank already admits it to not be a mass seller but a niche product. MS is not after volume, but after fat margins...

Looking at the Fronx pricing, I really don't have any hopes for the Jimny pricing. Even then hope that Thar prices should be some sort of deterrent for them.

Should have guessed the prices would rocket when they gave it the full 4x4 gear, 6 airbags and headlight washers

[Jaggu]

Originally Posted by purohitanuj

5. Looking for a Premium product

But is it a Premium product? That is the question! Just because the manufacturer says it OR terms it as a Premium product, it does not automatically becomes one. Does it?

It is a bare bone entry level SUV, really tiny and can take fair bit of abuse but that is just about it. Putting an LED headlight or adding a smartphone compatible headunit does not hide the fact that it is a ladder on frame vehicle with a mediocre engine and tranny. Even the interiors are bare minimum and nowhere close to a Premium that say even a Endeavour offers, forget land rovers of the world. So fact is.. it is ENTRY LEVEL and NOT PREMIUM

As a market, and as users... it is high time consumers also question back and push back. Perils of a boomers market who really don't care about few lakhs lying here there

Edit: Applying same logic, all the cars under Maruti portfolio north of Wagon R should be henceforth termed as Premium. lol

[sammysossa]

Originally Posted by Jaggu

But is it a Premium product? That is the question! Just because the manufacturer says it OR terms it as a Premium product, it does not automatically becomes one. Does it?

Couldn't agree more. It definitely is not a "Premium" product. No international reviewer/user ever termed the 2D Jimny as "premium". To the contrary and as you've mentioned, its bare boned. MS is just trying to create a fog of "prestige" around Jimny.
BUT
The moment the millennial buyer would actually go and check out the product and see whats on offer as compared to the competition, they will realise that the Jimny certainly does not command a 16L + price tag. (Actually I am secretly hoping that many do buy it and realise their mistake later . Since for me if the Zeta AT crosses anything more than 13.5L-14L on road in Himachal, I will cancel my booking and keenly await one on the second hand market).

[BoneCollector]

Originally Posted by BoneCollector

My prediction would be starting price of 9.89-9.99 for Zeta Manual to 12.49-12.99L for Alpha AT.

Quoting my own post with respect to the price. The Jimny will not be getting many electronic gizmos that Fronx has so that may help in balancing out the prices. To me, all the PREMIUM talk looks solely aimed at making the customers perceive it as a costly product and then they launch it at an introductory price of something like that quoted above and everyone goes Gaga over it. Something similar had happened when the XUV5OO was launched in 2011. People were not happy with the design elements of the car but the moment price was released, all rant went for a toss.

[volkman10]

Maruti Suzuki Jimny will not get entry-level 2WD variant.



Suzuki doesn’t want to veer away from the Jimny’s off-road DNA, thereby ruling out a two-wheel drive variant.

Maruti Suzuki's CTO:

We could have gone longer also, but we had to ensure the off-road capability is not compromised. The 4x4 character of the Jimny could not be lost

Link

[Senotrius]

The Jimny should get niche buyers till the 5 door Thar gets released. Maybe a year or two i guess. After that it will just get tough to justify the 'premium'. 4×4 is a functional option and not a luxury/premium aspect imho. I still dont understand what feels premium inside the Jimny either, looks like any other standard mill maruti interior.

[Ramsagar]

Not sure about the credibility of the prices revealed from link below:-

The ex-showroom price of Maruti Suzuki Jimny

Zeta MT variant is 9 lakh 99 thousand rupees
Zeta AT variant is 11 lakh 59 thousand rupees
Alpha MT variant is 12 lakh 29 thousand rupees
Alpha AT variant is 13 lakh 99 thousand rupees.

https://news24online.com/auto/maruti...e-here/127702/

[HappyWheels]

Originally Posted by Senotrius

... I still dont understand what feels premium inside the Jimny either, looks like any other standard mill maruti interior.

A case of wanting same position and respect because ones grandfather was one of a kind, at his time, eons back.