Dec 2009 Sales in xls format

ac 427 · 13th January 2010, 19:00

what is the BMW doing in the mid-size segment and why is the Fiat blank ?

cheers,
ac

Aarman_008 · 14th January 2010, 04:18

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Originally Posted by ph03n!x

What is the midsize offering from BMW in India? There are 13 units of these sold in Dec '09 - do we have the 1 Series out? Don't find anything less than the 3 in their website?!!

And that too the sales figure shows numbers for last three months. Wondering which model it is.

Sawyer · 14th January 2010, 06:34

Is Fiat in another slump? And with the Polo round the corner, that is not going to make it easier to recover. While GM and Hyundai seem to be moving from strength to strength.

sabynag · 14th January 2010, 10:44

Even with so much negative words about Skoda in almost every automobile forum (online), their sedans keep sizzling on the sales chart !!

mohandas · 14th January 2010, 11:32

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Originally Posted by sabynag

Even with so much negative words about Skoda in almost every automobile forum (online), their sedans keep sizzling on the sales chart !!

Those hate flames are only in TeamBHP forum, my friend. I read only good things elsewhere.

sameer sultan · 14th January 2010, 12:23

Can anyone pls list out the dec'09 sales for Altis Civic Laura Jetta and Cruze as i am not able to find out from the excel sheet?

abhi413 · 14th January 2010, 13:33

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Originally Posted by Avenger

so is this the "Beat" effect.

Avenger

but how? The Beat was launched just last week! I hope bookings are not being treated as sales here!

Avenger · 14th January 2010, 14:20

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but how? The Beat was launched just last week! I hope bookings are not being treated as sales here!

Not confirmed information but I heard that GM started selling/taking bookings for Beat in the last week on Dec'09 while the car was still not launched. They probably added those numbers as December sales.

Avenger

RP_812 · 14th January 2010, 14:48

Great work bringing us these figures Mr Vasudeva.

Missing GTO Comprehensive writeup though.

Are you listening Mr GTO?.

FlyingSpur · 14th January 2010, 15:04

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Originally Posted by mohandas

Those hate flames are only in TeamBHP forum, my friend. I read only good things elsewhere.

If by elsewhere you mean publications, you couldn't be more misguided, my friend. People who don't even know about Team-BHP or that I'm on Team-BHP come to me for what-next advice after a couple of stressful years with their Czech lemon.

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Originally Posted by Avenger

Not confirmed information but I heard that GM started selling/taking bookings for Beat in the last week on Dec'09 while the car was still not launched. They probably added those numbers as December sales.

True.

diveshsingh · 15th January 2010, 00:07

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Originally Posted by sameer sultan

Can anyone pls list out the dec'09 sales for Altis Civic Laura Jetta and Cruze as i am not able to find out from the excel sheet?

It would be interesting to see cruze sales number as compared to laura and jetta. Has cruze already started showing a downwards trend or has it maintained it sales?

sabynag · 15th January 2010, 10:01

Most car companies recognize a "sale" the moment they ship a car to the dealership. The car may not necessarily be sold to a customer and may end up in the dealer's stockyard. So all these sales figures do not always reflect the true customer activities. The true picture becomes clear only in Feb - March timeframe. Brands with excess inventories in dealers' stockyard will start discounting while the brands that really sold their cars to customers will stay firm with the price.

xingamazon · 15th January 2010, 21:12

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Originally Posted by sabynag

Most car companies recognize a "sale" the moment they ship a car to the dealership. The car may not necessarily be sold to a customer and may end up in the dealer's stockyard. So all these sales figures do not always reflect the true customer activities. The true picture becomes clear only in Feb - March timeframe. Brands with excess inventories in dealers' stockyard will start discounting while the brands that really sold their cars to customers will stay firm with the price.

Dont think this would be the case. Remember if someone recognises the revenue based just on the booking and declares in his official figures, then it would correspondingly mean he has to remit Sales tax for these figures for these numbers. Dont think anyone would do that.

diffsoft · 15th January 2010, 22:06

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Originally Posted by xingamazon

Dont think this would be the case. Remember if someone recognises the revenue based just on the booking and declares in his official figures, then it would correspondingly mean he has to remit Sales tax for these figures for these numbers. Dont think anyone would do that.

@Xingamazon: Sabynag is right, the car is invoiced to the dealer the moment it leaves the factory and the title passes on to the dealer. That's when the car maker recognizes the revenue. This is unlike consignment sales that you are probably referring to where the title stays with the car maker till it's sold.

This is based on what I learnt from a general reading up of financing arrangements between car makers and dealers.

Cheers,

Bluefiat · 15th January 2010, 22:51

I reported on this site the registrations of Fiat in the world, this is the page on India:

Sales of Fiat cars in India

13th January 2010, 19:00	#31
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sameer sultan BHPian Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Chennai Posts: 436 Thanked: 793 Times	Can anyone pls list out the dec'09 sales for Altis Civic Laura Jetta and Cruze as i am not able to find out from the excel sheet?
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RP_812 BHPian Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Bangalore Posts: 128 Thanked: 2 Times	Great work bringing us these figures Mr Vasudeva. Missing GTO Comprehensive writeup though. Are you listening Mr GTO?.
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15th January 2010, 10:01	#42
sabynag BHPian Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Bangalore Posts: 218 Thanked: 2 Times	Most car companies recognize a "sale" the moment they ship a car to the dealership. The car may not necessarily be sold to a customer and may end up in the dealer's stockyard. So all these sales figures do not always reflect the true customer activities. The true picture becomes clear only in Feb - March timeframe. Brands with excess inventories in dealers' stockyard will start discounting while the brands that really sold their cars to customers will stay firm with the price.
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Bluefiat BHPian Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Trento - Italy Posts: 47 Thanked: 9 Times	I reported on this site the registrations of Fiat in the world, this is the page on India: Sales of Fiat cars in India
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