Are our opinions about Hyundai changing?

Steeroid · 13th October 2005, 13:06

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Originally Posted by typeOnegative

Better car? Well that is too subjective. LOL

@TON - you dont have to take a tongue-in-cheek repartee so personally!

typeOnegative · 13th October 2005, 13:09

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Originally Posted by Steeroid

@TON - you dont have to take a tongue-in-cheek repartee so personally!

The LOL at the end was meant to convey that it had not been taken personally.

ac 427 · 13th October 2005, 13:16

all things said n done, the problem with hyundai is it does NOT have an identity. except for the getz, every other vehicle faces a identity problem. the accent is just a vehicle. . it doesnt give you the feel . . .the love feel that a maruti is able to give you. the sonata is really facing a major identity problem, the older one was a copy of the jaguar n the current one is a copy of a audi + accord.
interior wise hyundai have been good, infact they have been pretty good on that field but the LOVE factor in that vehicle is missing.

deepakhon · 13th October 2005, 13:19

I had an oppurtunity to test drive the erlx or elrx or whatever it is some time ago (I am very bad in remembering acronyms anyway). There is no doubt that it is very peppy, infact it is peppier than my palio 1.2 easily. But I still felt there are some areas where it can be improved. For example, the placement of throttle pedal. It does not seem to be on the same plane as the other two pedals. Infact I was searching for the pedal at first

. Also, some things like the placement of the indicator stalk should have been better. Atleast I had to move my hands temporarily off the steering to operate the stalk. I still think it is "ergonomically challenged". But it is a big improvement over its previous models.

I have no comments about the Getz as I have not driven it, nor have I sat in it. But I see Hyundai making positive strides and the effects are visible. I have to congrajulate them for having introduced the common rail diesel models when companies like Fiat, who are the pioneers themselves, seem to be shy of doing so quoting some absurd reasons.

But I am not really happy with the marketing stunts of Hyundai.

All in all, I guess they are doing pretty well. Atleast they are committed to Indian market and they send out a very positive signal.

But, will I buy a Hyundai? Not yet.

Rtech · 13th October 2005, 13:34

Would I buy a Hyundai? Yes, but only if it is the Tuscon.

That's the only Hyundai that "appeals" to me at this time. Too bad I hardly see any of them on Mumbai roads, but seen quite a few in Delhi for some reason.

However, as a maker of reliable and efficient cars, they have done a good job and are the only company, joined by Tata ofcourse, to take the fight to Maruti.

GTO · 13th October 2005, 13:36

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But I still felt there are some areas where it can be improved. For example, the placement of throttle pedal. It does not seem to be on the same plane as the other two pedals. Infact I was searching for the pedal at first

This is an old grouse with the Santro, and I thought it had already been rectified. Guess I heard wrong.

GTO

RX135 · 13th October 2005, 14:34

Had a chance to try my hands on my friend's newly bought eRLX (XO?) yesterday. So, initial impression:
1) Finish / paint quality : Quite good and impressive. It looked really good in husky blue (which is far from blue though :-)).
2) Dashboard : Cheap plastics competing with Marutis. Heck, the much maligned Fiat plastics looks better. But then looks are subjective. Anyway, they should have Tacho at least in top end model.
3) Instrument Controls : sliding a/c controls are bit confusing and needed some time to get used to. Rotary dials would have been better. One thing I hated, is the location of rear power window switches. I wonder why does one need them in the middle of 2 seats, which you can't operate unless you bend down forward. Power window switches should be illuminated for easy access at nights.
4) Gear shift : It is good again. Not exactly precise and notchy like Palio, but not rubbery and uncertain like Indica. Clutch pedal is much easier to operate when compared with Palio.
4) I dearly missed that lovely door thunk :-(
5) I'll write more later on the acceleration, ride and handling.

He got it for 4.05L on road in Pune, which looks like a good bargain.

GTO · 13th October 2005, 14:46

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4) I dearly missed that lovely door thunk :-(

Hahaha! Typical European car lover. Me and Robin have had a long talk over drinks on the same inclination toward European machinery. And our depreciating love toward Japanese cars.

GTO

Steeroid · 13th October 2005, 14:56

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Originally Posted by typeOnegative

The LOL at the end was meant to convey that it had not been taken personally.

My mistake, then - smileys are disabled unless I want to use them !

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Originally Posted by typeOnegative

One thing I hated, is the location of rear power window switches.I wonder why does one need them in the middle of 2 seats.

I agree. BTW, doesnt the Petra have them similarly located? I remember it was that way when I tested the Siena, because that was something I couldnt adjust to alongwith the very tiny footwell and pedals set too close for comfort.

RX135 · 13th October 2005, 15:02

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Originally Posted by Steeroid

BTW, doesnt the Petra have them similarly located? I remember it was that way when I tested the Siena, because that was something I couldnt adjust to alongwith the very tiny footwell and pedals set too close for comfort.

Yes, it does, but for the driver's controls. For rear occupants, the controls are on the door trim and not in the middle. I don't know how can it be comfortable for rear passengers, when the controls are in the middle. You literally have to bend down to operate it.

veyron1 · 13th October 2005, 15:53

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Originally Posted by turbo_lover

0-60 in 3.9secs
0-100 in 7.9secs
161bhp and 22.5 kgm torque..

whoopsie... i was quoting overdrive's figures when i quoted 161 bhp and 22.9 kgm torque...

yup, i read BS, and these are the figures quoted by them...i'm currently waiting for an ACI report...i'm going in for a test myself, soon...

0-100 in 7.9...wow..although seemingly optimistic, these are great numbers..maybe we'll see some souped up emberas this year at the drag- hopefully...

and as for the image of hyundai in india- wait for the tuscani (tiburon).... it's gonna be a hottie...a 2.7 litre V6 (sonata's grace) coupe, with a 5-speed manual; and if my sources are right- priced on this side of 15 lacs....

amit · 13th October 2005, 20:20

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4) I dearly missed that lovely door thunk :-(

I know exactly how you feel!

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but the LOVE factor in that vehicle is missing.

Even for a car lover like me, the Santro couldn't manage to evoke the possessiveness or feelings of love towards it. The Matiz did a better job at that then the Santro. Of course, the Palio is in a different league here. The S10 made me extremely passionate and possessive towards it. Among all the cars I had, the strongest feelings I had was for the Palio. But that was expected, after all it's Italian!

Whether i would buy a Hyundai? No, not yet at least.

RX135 · 13th October 2005, 20:37

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Originally Posted by GTO

Hahaha! Typical European car lover.

It was not on my mind, when I was checking out that car. In fact, I was more curious and positive due to good reports on eRLX. Now that you said it, I have to agree. I am just used to that "thunk" , and miss that in most other cars. Before anyone flames me for this, I know, it can't be an evaluation criteria for judging any car.

lamborghini · 13th October 2005, 22:55

Well, i miss the love feeling in the new accord too. I mean, it is going to be tough to part with the old accord and Palio.
Hyundai's opinions have really changed and after reading this, I feel that they need to concentrate on improving their brand image now. The Tucson, Getz and Embera are my fav. Hyundai Vehicles but apart from the Tucson, none of them are for the enthusiast.Maybe for my mother but not for me.
Saw a black colour Embera today and trust me, it looked better then the Accord with it's ugly rear end and now boring front (It's looks have become very common and i have gotten tired of them)

Steeroid · 14th October 2005, 01:49

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Originally Posted by veyron1

and as for the image of hyundai in india- wait for the tuscani (tiburon).... it's gonna be a hottie...a 2.7 litre V6 (sonata's grace) coupe, with a 5-speed manual; and if my sources are right- priced on this side of 15 lacs....

If the Embera is going to come with the 3.3 litre Lambda V6, they should plonk THAT 230 bhp stonker into the Tuscani/Tiburon/Coupe...I test drove the Sonata with that engine, and it felt quite supreme.

@ RX & GTO: dyou know that 'thunk' can be literally created? My former CTO's 5-series had the same reassuring 'thunk' despite being made mostly out of aluminium...that car finally landed up in the scrapyard after his driver drove it into a streetlamp and the car nearly split into two...that was at pretty normal speeds on a rush-hour highway too.

He asked for a car thats made of steel after that...

13th October 2005, 13:16	#33
ac 427 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Mumbai Posts: 1,393 Thanked: 244 Times View My Garage	all things said n done, the problem with hyundai is it does NOT have an identity. except for the getz, every other vehicle faces a identity problem. the accent is just a vehicle. . it doesnt give you the feel . . .the love feel that a maruti is able to give you. the sonata is really facing a major identity problem, the older one was a copy of the jaguar n the current one is a copy of a audi + accord. interior wise hyundai have been good, infact they have been pretty good on that field but the LOVE factor in that vehicle is missing.
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13th October 2005, 13:19	#34
deepakhon Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,441 Thanked: 65 Times	I had an oppurtunity to test drive the erlx or elrx or whatever it is some time ago (I am very bad in remembering acronyms anyway). There is no doubt that it is very peppy, infact it is peppier than my palio 1.2 easily. But I still felt there are some areas where it can be improved. For example, the placement of throttle pedal. It does not seem to be on the same plane as the other two pedals. Infact I was searching for the pedal at first . Also, some things like the placement of the indicator stalk should have been better. Atleast I had to move my hands temporarily off the steering to operate the stalk. I still think it is "ergonomically challenged". But it is a big improvement over its previous models. I have no comments about the Getz as I have not driven it, nor have I sat in it. But I see Hyundai making positive strides and the effects are visible. I have to congrajulate them for having introduced the common rail diesel models when companies like Fiat, who are the pioneers themselves, seem to be shy of doing so quoting some absurd reasons. But I am not really happy with the marketing stunts of Hyundai. All in all, I guess they are doing pretty well. Atleast they are committed to Indian market and they send out a very positive signal. But, will I buy a Hyundai? Not yet. Last edited by deepakhon : 13th October 2005 at 13:21.
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13th October 2005, 13:34	#35
Rtech Team-BHP Support Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 5,770 Thanked: 359 Times View My Garage	Would I buy a Hyundai? Yes, but only if it is the Tuscon. That's the only Hyundai that "appeals" to me at this time. Too bad I hardly see any of them on Mumbai roads, but seen quite a few in Delhi for some reason. However, as a maker of reliable and efficient cars, they have done a good job and are the only company, joined by Tata ofcourse, to take the fight to Maruti.
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13th October 2005, 14:34	#37
RX135 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: pune Posts: 2,106 Thanked: 75 Times	Had a chance to try my hands on my friend's newly bought eRLX (XO?) yesterday. So, initial impression: 1) Finish / paint quality : Quite good and impressive. It looked really good in husky blue (which is far from blue though :-)). 2) Dashboard : Cheap plastics competing with Marutis. Heck, the much maligned Fiat plastics looks better. But then looks are subjective. Anyway, they should have Tacho at least in top end model. 3) Instrument Controls : sliding a/c controls are bit confusing and needed some time to get used to. Rotary dials would have been better. One thing I hated, is the location of rear power window switches. I wonder why does one need them in the middle of 2 seats, which you can't operate unless you bend down forward. Power window switches should be illuminated for easy access at nights. 4) Gear shift : It is good again. Not exactly precise and notchy like Palio, but not rubbery and uncertain like Indica. Clutch pedal is much easier to operate when compared with Palio. 4) I dearly missed that lovely door thunk :-( 5) I'll write more later on the acceleration, ride and handling. He got it for 4.05L on road in Pune, which looks like a good bargain.
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13th October 2005, 22:55	#44
lamborghini Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 6,114 Thanked: 5,763 Times View My Garage	Well, i miss the love feeling in the new accord too. I mean, it is going to be tough to part with the old accord and Palio. Hyundai's opinions have really changed and after reading this, I feel that they need to concentrate on improving their brand image now. The Tucson, Getz and Embera are my fav. Hyundai Vehicles but apart from the Tucson, none of them are for the enthusiast.Maybe for my mother but not for me. Saw a black colour Embera today and trust me, it looked better then the Accord with it's ugly rear end and now boring front (It's looks have become very common and i have gotten tired of them)
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