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The reason you don't see many dragsters do so is because they RELY on wheelspin to get off the line. If you look at any pro-dragster video, their wheels have hit 100mph at the start line, before they even start moving. They only gain traction after the initial layer of rubber has been shredded. Also, dragsters normally run centrifugal clutches and Mickey Thompson type drag slicks, which take traction to a whole new level. Quote:
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Team-BHP Support ![]() | ![]() well, it seems this has turned into a discussion of a different sort. So why not add my 2 bits! In drag races, the theoretical advantage gained from AWD at the launch is soon lost due to frictional losses and the weight penalty that AWD comes with. Quote:
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Rtech, given 2 equal cars with equal power and weight -- say a WRX STi with and without AWD -- who do you think would win, given average drivers? EDIT: That vid has such incredible slo-mo that the green start light is actually strobing! Last edited by mclaren1885 : 22nd March 2007 at 17:36. | |
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However, for anyone who sets out to build a pure, strip only dragster, I do not see them going in for AWD. A RWD setup with the correct tyres and suspension and a good driver will be quicker and lighter. | |
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Speaking about why dragsters dont have AWD, well, transmission losses, front wheel drag coefficient and loads of additional weight!!! Morover, when there are tyre manufacturers who give you tyres which stick to the tarmac like glue why take all the pain thats involved with an AWD?? The negligible wheelspin and tyre flex is still a viable option in comparison to the AWD disadvantages(but remember this is only when you have a dragstar and not a street car)!!! Last edited by The Wolf : 22nd March 2007 at 19:57. | |
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BHPian | ![]() I guess the discussion is already off topic, so here's my 2 cents. The classic Porsche C2 (Carrera 2 RWD) vs C4 (Carrera 4, AWD) comparison is all over the Internet and most motoring video magazines. So in effect I would agree with someone who says that an RWD is what you would choose for track, drag or any kind of serious competition over an AWD version of the same vehicle. sAP |
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| ![]() well i did a search but coudnt find any videos of a ssc being tested at Nurburgring but did find this info: veyron:7.40(1001 bhp) carrera gt:7.28(605bhp)rwd c6 z06:7.43(512 bhp)rwd 3 sec off ford gt:7.42(550 ps) rwd 2sec off they are pretty good compared to the veyon also found this at this point i wish i had awd- Z06 gets huge air in Nurburgring*MUST SEE* - Z06Vette.com at this point about a day over did they really hope they beat it the site say from 21st they are going to try and beat it.so have to wait and see. |
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The next obvious question would be- then why aren't F1 cars AWD? It's not like they have money or weight issues? The answer- F1 cars have been restricted over the years, to a great extent. So much so, that F1 regs. are demanding lesser power nowadays. An AWD F1 car would be, theoretically, faster over ANY circuit. But the gains would be marginal, since the modern viscous LSD's at the rear coupled with TC, LC etc. make the RWD's pretty close. As for the Veyron. Just a pointer. The quad-turbo W16 makes 3000 shaft horsepower. 1000 bhp is lost in cooling. Another 1000 in transmission and exhaust. And the engine is restricted. Drastically. | |
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Senior - BHPian | ![]() I would only say driving a 600-700bhp car at full throttle is easier then driving a 1000bhp car at full pelt and hence the Veyron's time is slower then a few other cars. |
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Thats definitely interesting. 67% loss due to transmission & cooling? Did you mean that the indicated power is 3000 hp? Something doesnt sound right about this. | |
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Senior - BHPian | ![]() pawan, you're most definitely biased towards american cars (everyone's entitled to their own opinion), and nothing that anyone says or does is gonna change that. Which means that you're gonna keep thinking that the SSC is better than the Veyron and therefore all of this discussion is moot anyway. I'd prefer not to get into this. |
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Team-BHP Support ![]() | ![]() I dont think it means that the engine makes 3000bhp at the crank. It means that the engine is capable of that but has been restricted since the transmission couldnt handle the power and the cooling wouldnt have been sufficient. Something like for india you detune the engine to account for poor fuel. The engine in the Civic makes 140bhp internationally but in india only 130bhp. |
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