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19th November 2014, 14:30 | #226 |
BHPian | Re: My Predator - Ebony Black Hyundai Verna CRDI SX ABS - 100,000 kms update on pg 15 Well well, Predator has finally hit the lakh mark. To be honest I did know it will keep going on, considering your maintenance record and your eyes, ears, bum whatever lets you know if anything is wrong. Having driven this very car a couple of times I know what he means by fast, reliable and comfortable car. Infact before the owner moved to Delhi he asked if I was interested in buying Predator. Thankfully I didn't. As Mr. Sengupta can only take care of it the way it should be. Congrats buddy. I wish you keep this going as long as you can. Maybe do a budgeting and buy some parts and stock them. And please get the repaint done and as Rohin said get some new seat covers and steering wheel covers. |
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19th November 2014, 15:17 | #227 | |
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19th November 2014, 21:18 | #228 |
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| Re: My Predator - Ebony Black Hyundai Verna CRDI SX ABS - 100,000 kms update on pg 15 Congratulations predatorwheelz on this ocassion of hitting 1 lack Mark. Verna has been a very reliable car to our family too. Our verna has crossed 147278 kms since march 2009. Majour repairings required so far:-
Turbo has given up since 5k Kms. Wont be getting it repaired as the car is only being used for city driving and would be up for sale within a couple of months. This car has been to our satisfaction ans has never disappointed us. She never squeaked or rattled as far as interiors are concerned. Recently we bought a Verna Fluidic. This makes it three generations of global Hyundai Accent in a line. Accent Crdi (2005) Sold at 2.75 lack Kms in 2009 Verna Crdi (2009) 1.47 lack kms and revving fine Verna Fluidic(2014) New addition 11k kms till date. |
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20th November 2014, 10:46 | #229 |
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| Re: My Predator - Ebony Black Hyundai Verna CRDI SX ABS - 100,000 kms update on pg 15 The 1.6 CRDI Verna is an absolute cracker of an engine. My father owns the same model and its a pleasure driving it on the highway, the turbo lag in the engine gives you a rocket feeling. Just wanted to know, did you change the original music system in the car? |
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20th November 2014, 11:38 | #230 | |||||||||
Senior - BHPian | Re: My Predator - Ebony Black Hyundai Verna CRDI SX ABS - 100,000 kms update on pg 15 Quote:
You mentioned the Santro. An uncle bought a Santro in 2003 and owns it till date. It has clocked in excess of 150,000 kms, which is why he scoffed when I sent him the 1L km pic! As for the party, why don't you drop in to one of the NCR team bhp meets. Especially the ones we keep having at Vasant Kunj. That way we can get together and chat, err, eat . Quote:
But looks is a subjective matter. As for fitment advice, why don't you give Aman at Motor Concepts a call. They're one of the best for high-end ICE fitment in Delhi. You can find their contact details in the Delhi-NCR directory. Quote:
On a different note, 1,96,000 kms? Thats double of what my car has done! Respect! Quote:
As you rightly said, quality is going south almost everywhere. Not something that will be evident in the first few years of ownership, but for owners like us to who love retaining and maintaining their steeds. Quote:
You and Rohin do recall the dark hour when I had a change of mood and wanted to sell the car. Now that hour has passed. Come down to Delhi and take a drive again. Quote:
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That said, you've had a different ownership pattern. Your set of tyres lasted 80K and 60K kms. Mine barely last 40K. Your brake discs were changed at double of what mine lasted. In fact my brake pads too barely last more than 30K kms. You've said the suspension overhaul was too soon. Trust me, there aren't many cars in India where the stock suspension lasts 1L kms or more! Please start your own long term ownership thread. I'm eager to exchange notes and gain some wisdom from your experience. Quote:
I did change most components except the HU. You can read about it in detail here: http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/sound-...a-install.html | |||||||||
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20th November 2014, 12:00 | #231 |
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| Predatoronwheels the tyre use pattern changed beacuse during the first set of tyres , car was extensively driven on highways . On the second set it was driven mostly in city or sometimes on mud roads. To the loyality list - i20, fludic verna, santa fe and verna share the same garage. |
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20th November 2014, 17:26 | #232 |
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| Re: My Predator - Ebony Black Hyundai Verna CRDI SX ABS - 100,000 kms update on pg 15 Ani, your thread was the one which gave me confidence to go for a Hyundai Diesel mill in my next car congrats on the Elite. Do let us know how the new car feels. And Pics, need lots of pics of the new ride as well. |
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22nd November 2014, 15:42 | #233 |
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| Re: My Predator - Ebony Black Hyundai Verna CRDI SX ABS - 100,000 kms update on pg 15 Congrats on hitting the 1 lakh mark One thing I could not find in the cost of ownership table was the timing belt replacement. Is the car still running on the original timing belt?!! |
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22nd November 2014, 17:34 | #234 | |
Senior - BHPian | Re: My Predator - Ebony Black Hyundai Verna CRDI SX ABS - 100,000 kms update on pg 15 Quote:
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18th January 2015, 08:43 | #235 |
Senior - BHPian | The car's a movie star Did you know Predator also acted in a movie? Yes, sometime last year this outfit called Junkyard Productions (comprising mostly advertising/media professionals and some rank amateurs like a banker and an IIT prof) decided to shoot a few humorous short films with a social message. One of the movies was "Aam aadmi ka Birthday". I'm sharing the link for general entertainment. It doesn't take a very careful eye to figure out the car in the video |
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12th May 2015, 22:27 | #236 |
BHPian | Re: My Predator - Ebony Black Hyundai Verna CRDI SX ABS - 100,000 kms update on pg 15 Hello Predator and other Verna VGT CRDI fans. So awesome to see so many fans of this mean machine. The passion and excitement for this vehicle from all of you is so amazing. I so adore my car thanks to this thread. Allow me to tell my story - I picked up a 2008 SX ABS VGT (with all round discs) from a relative of mine who was no longer using it. The car is immaculately maintained with clean interiors and exteriors. The car is surprisingly rattle free, having munched over 89K Kms. Moving from Wagon R (nice car on its own) to this rocket has been an exhilarating experience. The whine of the turbo and lift off at 1750RPM is mind blowing. Despite the raw power, a great fuel economy has been the icing on the cake. Now despite the age, I love this machine a a lot and don't want to part with her for sometime to come. Now here is where I need your guidance. I wish to do a proper 90K service - covering everything that needs to and nothing more. I am afraid that taking it to a HASS here in Bangalore might turn out to be a expensive ride. But since the car has been taken care of at HASS ever since its birth, I would prefer to give it there since I am not familiar with any neighborhood garage.Also, given that this now a defunct model, not sure how many local garages would know the intricacies of the vehicle to do a thorough job. Could you please provide pointers on do's and dont's for a 90K service job card at HASS (Advaith Hyundai, J P Nagar)? Want to make sure that everything that needs attention is taken care of (Suspension, Timing, Filters, disc brakes etc). I would also like to use Mobil Delvac 1 engine oil as recommended in some other thread on this forum. Your thoughts on this pls. Appreciate your help and guidance here. Many thanks! Last edited by ukamath : 12th May 2015 at 22:28. |
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13th May 2015, 23:18 | #237 | |
Senior - BHPian | Re: My Predator - Ebony Black Hyundai Verna CRDI SX ABS - 100,000 kms update on pg 15 Quote:
You didn't mention the mileage at which you picked it up, how much you've driven it yourself and what all you've changed during this time. Assuming the car has not seen any mechanical changes except regular servicing, here's what I would advise you to check: 1. Condition of front brake pads. Mine tend to wear out every 25 to 30K kms. 2. Rear brake pads. These typically last 40 to 45Ks, so unlikely the first owner has changed them more than once. Also check the condition of the brake oil and discs. 3. Full suspension. This car has very strong suspension components, and unless the car has been abused, will last you long. Plus the suspension components are not very expensive. 4. A full service. The diesel filter lasts 10K easily, but air and oil filters need changing at every service. 5. The engine doesn't give any trouble unless abused. Get the EGR valve checked and cleaned anyway. If the car is giving out copious amounts of black smoke, or losing power, or whistling, these are signs of a blown turbo. If not, you don't require opening up the engine. This car also comes with a timing chain (not belt) and I think at 90K it wouldn't require checking. 6. The body is pretty solid. But do check for any signs of rust, or corrosion in the under-body. Now my 2 recommendations: 1. Don't go to HASS. Their labour charges are becoming outrageous. They do silly cosmetic stuff (ceramic protection for engine!) and charge you for it. They are notorious with out of warranty cars. And they follow a policy of replace over repair. In one service they replaced the entire AC cooling coil, which I later learnt would have sufficed with a simple cleaning. Instead try out an FNG in Bangalore who knows his way around these cars. Follow the Team-BHP directory to find one in Bangalore. 2. Delvac 1 seems to be the in-thing these days. Strictly my opinion, but you don't need to waste money on synthetic oils with this car. Use Mobil Delvac MX or Shell Helix HX6. Both have excellent soot-retention properties and will last you 8-9K without breaking a sweat. Last edited by predatorwheelz : 13th May 2015 at 23:20. | |
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14th May 2015, 14:49 | #238 | |
BHPian | Re: My Predator - Ebony Black Hyundai Verna CRDI SX ABS - 100,000 kms update on pg 15 Quote:
Thanks Predator for the point by point response. Totally agree – the strong build, comfortable and quality interiors, a locomotive DNA derived engine under the hood, great fuel economy all definitely lean towards keeping this for a long time. I am the third owner of the car – The car was originally bought by a MNC bank executive, who took good care of the car, covered parking, servicing at regular intervals at HASS etc. My cousin picked this car when it was around the 78K mark. Due to his ill-health, he could no longer drive the car, so I picked it up from him around the 84K mark. Currently the car is nearing the 89K mark. I am not sure on the parts changed / mechanical changes made with the previous owners – no records exist with me. During my ownership of the car, nothing has been replaced or serviced, except a complete overhaul of the A/C system – This was done at a Bosch service center in early April. Points 1, 2 – The brakes still have a good bite and I am confident of controlling the vehicle when driven hard. Should pads etc..be still changed? Point 3: The front left suspension, makes a “THUD” noise, when going over potholes or speed bumps sometimes. No noise on normal roads. What should I look out for as a source of the noise? Any replacement or overhaul required? Point 4: Agree, All filters to be replaced Point 5: I am assuming that the car has not been abused! This is actually my biggest fear since I have bought the car – Timing chain or expensive turbo failures, or the car giving up on me when on a long drive – Worries associated with a car having clocked close so many miles, and 95% being not done by me. I simply picked her up because of the exhilarating performance she showed when I took her for a TD. Just could not let go of the opportunity to get her home when my cousin wanted to sell. The gear shifts are butter smooth, and slot perfectly, never missing a cog ever. Clutch also seems ok, nothing hard, but after a long drive 300+ on a stretch felt that the clutch felt unengaging, and a little sticky. As regards to smoke, the car does not visibly let excessive smoke when on idle, or when driven with a light foot and low RPM shifts. However it smokes like hell, leaving a hug black trail when I accelerate hard between gears 2-3 / 3-4– between 1500 – 2500 RPM. Again when I settle down to acceptable RPMs it, the smoke comes back to normal. Is this ok and normal behavioral traits of this engine? I have never lost power, or felt loss of power in the time the car has with me. The whistling of the turbo can be heard when the car is in motion at lower RPMs – but disappears when driven back at normal speeds. Is this normal? I have read horror stories of Hyundai turbo failures and expensive repairs associated. Should I be now worried given the above diagnosis of the current health of the engine? Is there any other way to know the health of the turbo – Typically how long would the turbo last before it needs replacement or an overhaul?Thanks for the pointing of the timing chain and that it does not require any attention for now. Point 6: The body is in good condition for its age – so I don’t see any concern here. A wise recommendation on not going to a HASS. I am planning to go to a BOSCH service center, a couple of kms away from my house. I have seen all types of cars serviced here, including a 520D, E280, etc so I am assuming these guys do a good job The car was last serviced at 80K and now nearing 90K. So unsure if the oil is currently synthetic or mineral. Is it ok to downgrade to mineral if the oil inside is found to be synthetic? Thanks again for your guidance. Some pics of my car… | |
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Senior - BHPian | Re: My Predator - Ebony Black Hyundai Verna CRDI SX ABS - 100,000 kms update on pg 15 That's a fantastic, clean example you got there. Till 2008 the beadings on this car were body colored, and even the diesel SX model didn't come with factory fitted alloys. Your car has after-market alloys. So your model year is confirmed. Get a cover for the steering wheel. It'll feel chunky and much better in your hand. Quote:
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Secondly, I don't think you need to check the health of the turbo. A shot turbo will give very noticeable symptoms (the ones I had mentioned in the earlier post). The symptoms you quoted are normal for this car. Thirdly, the Turbo in this car is a simple fan-and-bearing setup. As long as you follow the one minute start-stop routine - one minute idle on cold start, and one minute idle before shutting off after a hard drive - the bearing will not have carbon deposits and your turbo should last forever. Quote:
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/indian...competent.html Yes of course. Just remember that while changing from synthetic to mineral (or vice versa), drain out the old oil, do an engine flush and then fill the new oil. | |||||||
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In any case, I checked the TBHP directory as recommended, and I found another Bosch center, very close to my place and recommended highly by fellow members. I am hoping to go there soon - http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/bangal...bangalore.html. Quote:
Thanks so much for taking time off for the guidance. Appreciate it | |||||||
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