My Predator - Ebony Black Hyundai Verna CRDI SX ABS - 100,000 kms update on pg 15

predatorwheelz · 2nd October 2009, 16:15

And now, after all the hype and pics, here are some hard facts, in cash.

Had some time today, so prepared some scans of all the service bills I've incurred till now. Some funny facts emerge (if you have the time, read through. Or else just scroll to the bottom of the post and see the summary):

The first service fell due in November. There was no expenditure whatsoever except what the owner's manual lays out. consequently, a non interesting, zero value invoice.

My Predator - Ebony Black Hyundai Verna CRDI SX ABS - 100,000 kms update on pg 15-1st-service-invoice.jpg

The second service fell due in March. This one is normally to be done by 9k kms/6 months (whichever is earlier). Since my car was far below the benchmark mileage, the service advisor suggested that I don't replace the diesel filter then and there (its a sturdy item and has a safe life till 10K kms). I took his advice and saved some money there. Instead, I went for a Teflon coating, underbody paint and interior cleaning session. If you scan the bill carefully, you'll see most of the cost is toward these cosmetics. Hyundai customer service week was going on, so I got a 20 pct discount as well.

My Predator - Ebony Black Hyundai Verna CRDI SX ABS - 100,000 kms update on pg 15-2nd-service-invoice.jpg

My Predator - Ebony Black Hyundai Verna CRDI SX ABS - 100,000 kms update on pg 15-2nd-service-joblist.jpg

In April, the accident happened. The bumper needed to be replaced, and it cost me almost INR 5K. Insurance paid most of it, and I was lucky to have the guy at fault (in the accident) own up and pay the rest.

My Predator - Ebony Black Hyundai Verna CRDI SX ABS - 100,000 kms update on pg 15-bumper-repair-invoice.jpg

My Predator - Ebony Black Hyundai Verna CRDI SX ABS - 100,000 kms update on pg 15-bumper-repair-joblist.jpg

In July, having completed 10k kms, I took the car back for the pending diesel filter replacement. Also gave the car a thorough wash and wipe.

This was in fact an unlikely romantic day for me and my wife. It was raining heavily since morning, and very few cars had turned up at the Hyundai service centre. For most of the afternoon the team was working on my car. The 2 of us snuggled comfortably in the AC customer lounge watching a movie on TV, listening to the raindrops outside, while watching the bay below us where the car was being worked upon. Unexpected marital bliss in the most unlikely of places

.

My Predator - Ebony Black Hyundai Verna CRDI SX ABS - 100,000 kms update on pg 15-filter-change-invoice.jpg

My Predator - Ebony Black Hyundai Verna CRDI SX ABS - 100,000 kms update on pg 15-filter-change-joborder.jpg

Finally, on 30th September, the car was taken for the 3rd service. Usual disposables, plus another session of interior cleaning. Also taken care of were a dashboard noise, and a rattling right ORVM.

My Predator - Ebony Black Hyundai Verna CRDI SX ABS - 100,000 kms update on pg 15-3rd-service-invoice.jpg

My Predator - Ebony Black Hyundai Verna CRDI SX ABS - 100,000 kms update on pg 15-3rd-service-joblist.jpg

So here's the summary. In one year, I've paid a total of 11,354 towards service. Rs 5150 (45pct) of it is toward cosmetic enhancements alone, and Rs 1544 is towards taxes, VAT etc (sheesh!

). So my true cost of service is Rs 4660 only.

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Obviously, this being the first year, I'm living in fool's paradise. From next year, the labour costs will come in, increased cost of disposables, as well as chances of mechanical repairs (outside warranty). Lets see.

In the meantime, I'd appreciate it if fellow Verna CRDI owners can do a similar exercise and come up with a comparative analysis of their service costs.

kpzen · 2nd October 2009, 16:30

Nice analysis.
I'm wondering why everytime they have filled in 5.5 litres of engine oil instead of 5.3 litres.

Find the details of my car here.
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/long-t...ml#post1501265

aneeshanand · 2nd October 2009, 17:17

Nice work

this will be the reference book for verna owners like me, to make the preparations before each service and calculations after it.

copied the page to offline Archives.. Thnx Predator.. (this thread adds to your name )

hellstar · 5th October 2009, 13:07

hey i noticed that you r car has the 1400 bucks fuel filter , there are two types in vernas , one is the 1400 bucks one and i have the 930 bucks one.

Could you post a picture of the fuel filter cartridge when you get one next time for a comparo with the other one which i will also put up when i get my next change.

pras.oct25 · 5th October 2009, 13:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by hellstar

hey i noticed that you r car has the 1400 bucks fuel filter , there are two types in vernas , one is the 1400 bucks one and i have the 930 bucks one.

Could you post a picture of the fuel filter cartridge when you get one next time for a comparo with the other one which i will also put up when i get my next change.

What is the difference between these 2 filters in general?

hellstar · 6th October 2009, 11:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by pras.oct25

What is the difference between these 2 filters in general?

I really don't know the difference , i am also given to understand that the dieel pumps are also of two types thats the reason why , if you ask the A.S.S for a fuel filter for any fuel pump related spare part they will ask for the target vehicles vin number for giving you the part.

Thats also the reason why i was asking to post the picture of the fuel filters.

predatorwheelz · 6th October 2009, 11:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by kpzen

Nice analysis.
I'm wondering why everytime they have filled in 5.5 litres of engine oil instead of 5.3 litres.

Hi, quite a rocketship you got there. At a later stage, I too plan to go in for mods like a Pete's tuning box and an alternative filter.

Interesting point about the engine oil. Will ask the dealership when I go in next. But really, how much difference does 0.2 ltrs make to the cost

?

Quote:

Originally Posted by aneeshanand

Nice work this will be the reference book for verna owners like me, to make the preparations before each service and calculations after it. copied the page to offline Archives.. Thnx Predator.. (this thread adds to your name )

Thank you my friend. Glad to know my thread has been of any help.

Quote:

Originally Posted by hellstar

hey i noticed that you r car has the 1400 bucks fuel filter , there are two types in vernas , one is the 1400 bucks one and i have the 930 bucks one.

Could you post a picture of the fuel filter cartridge when you get one next time for a comparo with the other one which i will also put up when i get my next change.

Quote:

Originally Posted by hellstar

I really don't know the difference , i am also given to understand that the dieel pumps are also of two types thats the reason why , if you ask the A.S.S for a fuel filter for any fuel pump related spare part they will ask for the target vehicles vin number for giving you the part.

Thats also the reason why i was asking to post the picture of the fuel filters.

Hellstar, thats an extremely interesting point. I'll make it a point to put up pics of the fuel filler cartrdige next time I go for a service.

Is it possible that earlier model cars came with a different technical aspect, necessitating a different filter?

AltoHoncho · 7th October 2009, 18:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by predatorwheelz

My preferences were Performance, Space and Features (in that order).

Dada I DISAGREEE totally

. Knowing you, the preference HAS to be only SPACE. And, if something on this earth can offer YOU a space, then it can NEVER perform.
------------

On a serious note, congrats for your car and such a great insightful writeup. I am soon to decide upon something for myself, and my budget would be in the same range. Preferably something to accomodate 5-6 people comfortably and safely. I would need your advice on this.

predatorwheelz · 7th October 2009, 19:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by AltoHoncho

Dada I DISAGREEE totally . Knowing you, the preference HAS to be only SPACE. And, if something on this earth can offer YOU a space, then it can NEVER perform.

Why do I feel like performing precision brain surgery on you with a Battleaxe?!!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by AltoHoncho

On a serious note, congrats for your car and such a great insightful writeup. I am soon to decide upon something for myself, and my budget would be in the same range. Preferably something to accomodate 5-6 people comfortably and safely. I would need your advice on this.

Thanks for the compliments. As always, eager to help. But why 5-6 people? I thought you just got married last year

!

AltoHoncho · 8th October 2009, 11:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by predatorwheelz

Why do I feel like performing precision brain surgery on you with a Battleaxe?!!!

Yes you always do, have done it multiple times while thumping downhill from your room for a Coke and Pringles

Quote:

Originally Posted by predatorwheelz

Thanks for the compliments. As always, eager to help. But why 5-6 people? I thought you just got married last year

!

5-6 people includes only the existing ones FAMILY, but also will have to plan and consider the accruals

gajadonga · 30th October 2009, 13:24

I have Verna I have done 76000kms Good vehicle till now.While turning full radius used to get a noise so on the service advisor instructions changed the pulley Rs6000.Still the sound persists.Next service I am going to give my peices of my mind.

pras.oct25 · 30th October 2009, 13:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by gajadonga

I have Verna I have done 76000kms Good vehicle till now.While turning full radius used to get a noise so on the service advisor instructions changed the pulley Rs6000.Still the sound persists.Next service I am going to give my peices of my mind.

Why did you accept the car from them in that case?

And where is this noise coming from?

aneeshanand · 1st November 2009, 12:10

what about the trebling noise trrrrrRRRRR... from the dash, when you pick up slowly from 1000-1200 rpm in 3,4 or 5th gear? is that common?

live2drive · 1st November 2009, 12:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by aneeshanand

what about the trebling noise trrrrrRRRRR... from the dash, when you pick up slowly from 1000-1200 rpm in 3,4 or 5th gear? is that common?

These are vibrations which occur due to lugging the engine. Can be avoided.

aneeshanand · 1st November 2009, 12:38

but it sounds like a plastic rattle...

2nd October 2009, 16:15	#91
predatorwheelz Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Delhi/Kolkata Posts: 1,720 Thanked: 1,978 Times View My Garage	Where have all the Greenbacks gone? And now, after all the hype and pics, here are some hard facts, in cash. Had some time today, so prepared some scans of all the service bills I've incurred till now. Some funny facts emerge (if you have the time, read through. Or else just scroll to the bottom of the post and see the summary): The first service fell due in November. There was no expenditure whatsoever except what the owner's manual lays out. consequently, a non interesting, zero value invoice. The second service fell due in March. This one is normally to be done by 9k kms/6 months (whichever is earlier). Since my car was far below the benchmark mileage, the service advisor suggested that I don't replace the diesel filter then and there (its a sturdy item and has a safe life till 10K kms). I took his advice and saved some money there. Instead, I went for a Teflon coating, underbody paint and interior cleaning session. If you scan the bill carefully, you'll see most of the cost is toward these cosmetics. Hyundai customer service week was going on, so I got a 20 pct discount as well. In April, the accident happened. The bumper needed to be replaced, and it cost me almost INR 5K. Insurance paid most of it, and I was lucky to have the guy at fault (in the accident) own up and pay the rest. In July, having completed 10k kms, I took the car back for the pending diesel filter replacement. Also gave the car a thorough wash and wipe. This was in fact an unlikely romantic day for me and my wife. It was raining heavily since morning, and very few cars had turned up at the Hyundai service centre. For most of the afternoon the team was working on my car. The 2 of us snuggled comfortably in the AC customer lounge watching a movie on TV, listening to the raindrops outside, while watching the bay below us where the car was being worked upon. Unexpected marital bliss in the most unlikely of places. Finally, on 30th September, the car was taken for the 3rd service. Usual disposables, plus another session of interior cleaning. Also taken care of were a dashboard noise, and a rattling right ORVM. So here's the summary. In one year, I've paid a total of 11,354 towards service. Rs 5150 (45pct) of it is toward cosmetic enhancements alone, and Rs 1544 is towards taxes, VAT etc (sheesh!). So my true cost of service is Rs 4660 only. Obviously, this being the first year, I'm living in fool's paradise. From next year, the labour costs will come in, increased cost of disposables, as well as chances of mechanical repairs (outside warranty). Lets see. In the meantime, I'd appreciate it if fellow Verna CRDI owners can do a similar exercise and come up with a comparative analysis of their service costs.
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2nd October 2009, 16:30	#92
kpzen Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Faridabad Posts: 5,610 Thanked: 1,876 Times View My Garage	Nice analysis. I'm wondering why everytime they have filled in 5.5 litres of engine oil instead of 5.3 litres. Find the details of my car here. http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/long-t...ml#post1501265
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2nd October 2009, 17:17	#93
aneeshanand BHPian Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Trivandrum Posts: 123 Thanked: 11 Times	Nice work this will be the reference book for verna owners like me, to make the preparations before each service and calculations after it. copied the page to offline Archives.. Thnx Predator.. (this thread adds to your name )
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5th October 2009, 13:07	#94
hellstar Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,072 Thanked: 44 Times	hey i noticed that you r car has the 1400 bucks fuel filter , there are two types in vernas , one is the 1400 bucks one and i have the 930 bucks one. Could you post a picture of the fuel filter cartridge when you get one next time for a comparo with the other one which i will also put up when i get my next change.
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30th October 2009, 13:24	#101
gajadonga Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 1,045 Thanked: 458 Times	I have Verna I have done 76000kms Good vehicle till now.While turning full radius used to get a noise so on the service advisor instructions changed the pulley Rs6000.Still the sound persists.Next service I am going to give my peices of my mind.
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1st November 2009, 12:10	#103
aneeshanand BHPian Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Trivandrum Posts: 123 Thanked: 11 Times	what about the trebling noise trrrrrRRRRR... from the dash, when you pick up slowly from 1000-1200 rpm in 3,4 or 5th gear? is that common?
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1st November 2009, 12:38	#105
aneeshanand BHPian Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Trivandrum Posts: 123 Thanked: 11 Times	but it sounds like a plastic rattle...
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