Flippy Keys

Epic · 6th July 2010, 18:36

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Originally Posted by MrinalSinha

Sorry to hear about the key not fitting for you Epic. I was hoping that it might fit your remote. The sad part is "no reply" from DSP stores now :(.. The autocop guy will confirm the feasibility by tomorrow. So I am waiting for a news from him.

Hi Mrinal. Yeah too bad about the outcome, I was hoping it would fit too. Btw, do let me know if the Autocop guy's review is positive and if he can make a custom one so that I can look at that option too. I am anyway looking for a PCB maker in Mumbai. Its the only option left i guess.

prateekpsingh · 7th July 2010, 02:48

Anyone has a clue if this can be done for the Optra with the factory key. And if yes, who am I to turn to?

MrinalSinha · 7th July 2010, 08:10

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Originally Posted by Epic

Hi Mrinal. Yeah too bad about the outcome, I was hoping it would fit too. Btw, do let me know if the Autocop guy's review is positive and if he can make a custom one so that I can look at that option too. I am anyway looking for a PCB maker in Mumbai. Its the only option left i guess.

Hi Epic,

The news from autocop is that it wont fit :(.. So now the flippy key is almost a waste for me. I dont know how to find a PCB maker here in Hyderabad. Any suggestions?

Epic · 7th July 2010, 15:53

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Originally Posted by MrinalSinha

Hi Epic,

The news from autocop is that it wont fit :(.. So now the flippy key is almost a waste for me. I dont know how to find a PCB maker here in Hyderabad. Any suggestions?

Hi Mrinal,

Don't know about a PCB maker in Hyderabad but located one here in Mumbai who will custom make the PCB to fit in the flip key but the cost for the same is almost 2k so not sure if this is worth it. What do u suggest?

MrinalSinha · 7th July 2010, 18:10

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Originally Posted by Epic

Hi Mrinal,

Don't know about a PCB maker in Hyderabad but located one here in Mumbai who will custom make the PCB to fit in the flip key but the cost for the same is almost 2k so not sure if this is worth it. What do u suggest?

2k is sky high!! I am thinking of sending this FOB back and getting S110 model (hope 30 days money back applies to us also). This is a three button in-line remote. Today, autocop chap is visiting my house to return the keycase. I will check if he has got a remote to fit it. The remote will cost 700 much less than 2k. I am going to give him a call now.

Edit: Ask him to do the custom PCB in 500 each and I will send my remote also

along with the case. Anything more than 500, I wont like to spend. I have already destoyed a remote. I will try to do a custom PCB myself. I am anyway free on the weekends.

Epic · 9th July 2010, 11:44

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Originally Posted by MrinalSinha

2k is sky high!! I am thinking of sending this FOB back and getting S110 model (hope 30 days money back applies to us also). This is a three button in-line remote. Today, autocop chap is visiting my house to return the keycase. I will check if he has got a remote to fit it. The remote will cost 700 much less than 2k. I am going to give him a call now.

Edit: Ask him to do the custom PCB in 500 each and I will send my remote also

along with the case. Anything more than 500, I wont like to spend. I have already destoyed a remote. I will try to do a custom PCB myself. I am anyway free on the weekends.

Hi Mrinal,

Yes, I did mention that I would have friends who would like to also custom make their remote PCBs but provided mine is a success first. The problem is that the brand, shape, functions & components of our remotes are not the same, hence, there is a development cost also involved which is why the cost is so high. If we had the same remote, I am sure we could have got our PCBs made at a much lesser cost. I'm clueless and lost now :-(

MrinalSinha · 9th July 2010, 12:22

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Originally Posted by Epic

Hi Mrinal,

Yes, I did mention that I would have friends who would like to also custom make their remote PCBs but provided mine is a success first. The problem is that the brand, shape, functions & components of our remotes are not the same, hence, there is a development cost also involved which is why the cost is so high. If we had the same remote, I am sure we could have got our PCBs made at a much lesser cost. I'm clueless and lost now :-(

Ok.. but he is just gonna solder the components on a new PCB which costs just 10 rs. per sq feet! I belive 2k is very high. Also, the S205 model will take a PCB which is 3cm X3.3 cm in dimension.

I am putting up the flippy key for sale in the classified section now. Will do that in the evening once I reach home. I have found that there is a remote which might fit S110 model (which knp had). So I will be ordering that.
The DSP guys have been quite helpful and they have agreed to exchange the case, but resending it to china will again cost me some money, so I am preferring to sell it here at no profit/ no loss. If I don't find anyone here, I might then return it back.

Tassem · 9th July 2010, 17:30

@ Mrinal: Sorry about the disappointment. Will the xenos remote module fit in the flippy key you bought? Ignore the blue button cause its a dummy. The key is for a lancer.

MrinalSinha · 10th July 2010, 16:43

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Originally Posted by Tassem

@ Mrinal: Sorry about the disappointment. Will the xenos remote module fit in the flippy key you bought? Ignore the blue button cause its a dummy. The key is for a lancer.

Buddy,

You will have to send me the exact dimesnsions to check wether it fits. Also, I was not able to check the button postioning as the remote did not go in. If you can send me the remote dimensions, I can confirm if it does not fits. But, confirning that it fits will not be possible anyway.

Epic · 10th July 2010, 20:07

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Originally Posted by Tassem

@ Mrinal: Sorry about the disappointment. Will the xenos remote module fit in the flippy key you bought? Ignore the blue button cause its a dummy. The key is for a lancer.

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Originally Posted by MrinalSinha

Buddy,

You will have to send me the exact dimesnsions to check wether it fits. Also, I was not able to check the button postioning as the remote did not go in. If you can send me the remote dimensions, I can confirm if it does not fits. But, confirning that it fits will not be possible anyway.

Guys! Tassem's remote is the same as mine so shape and measurements of the PCB are posted on Pg 6 of this forum. I dont think it will fit though. The shape of these Xenos remotes/PCBs are a big issue!!

Epic · 10th July 2010, 20:11

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Originally Posted by MrinalSinha

Ok.. but he is just gonna solder the components on a new PCB which costs just 10 rs. per sq feet! I belive 2k is very high. Also, the S205 model will take a PCB which is 3cm X3.3 cm in dimension.

Yes you are right, but if you look at my PCB, there are not components only to solder. The only solder that is there is that of the battery terminal connections. The components in my PCB are sort of built in!

Tassem · 12th July 2010, 20:33

Guess I'm out of luck then. I tried speaking with the Xenos guys to see if any of their other remotes can function with the unit in my car. While they were willing to help, they said that the remotes they have are non-programmable across the different units available.

This confuses me. As when I bought a replacement remote, it took them all of 5 minutes to program it. They flip a button on the unit, wait for the signal led and then press the buttons on the remote for each function.

I just read that above statement and it looks confusing to me. But I'm sure anyone who's had a remote replaced knows what I'm talkin about.

Now, the big question I have is whether we can buy programmable remotes online. Like those watches which came with the tv remote. That'd be a good thing now, wont it?

tassem.

MrinalSinha · 21st July 2010, 16:36

Any progress Epic sir? Mine is all stuck. I have got a new remote with 3 3-inline buttons. I have sent the dimensions to the DSP guys and I am awaiting reply.

John · 2nd December 2010, 22:40

One of they keys of my Innova, with the remote buttons, got badly damaged (the plastic case broke). I checked with Toyota dealer who quote Rs.10,000 (yes, that's right!) for a new key.

While browsing the net, came across M/s Krishnaraj Enterprises. After some correspondence with Pulin Ashar, I sent the damaged key to them, they transplanted the transponder module into a new flip key case and cut and fitted a new key. Voila, I now have this great looking flip key with the Toyota logo etc.
Damages, including courier charges - Rs.1500!!

John

sagarpadaki · 2nd December 2010, 22:51

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Originally Posted by John

One of they keys of my Innova, with the remote buttons, got badly damaged (the plastic case broke). I checked with Toyota dealer who quote Rs.10,000 (yes, that's right!) for a new key.

While browsing the net, came across M/s Krishnaraj Enterprises. After some correspondence with Pulin Ashar, I sent the damaged key to them, they transplanted the transponder module into a new flip key case and cut and fitted a new key. Voila, I now have this great looking flip key with the Toyota logo etc.
Damages, including courier charges - Rs.1500!!

John

Cool! Can you post the pics of the key? Also give the contact details of the keymaker!

7th July 2010, 02:48	#152
prateekpsingh BHPian Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: New Delhi Posts: 47 Thanked: 24 Times	Chevy Optra Anyone has a clue if this can be done for the Optra with the factory key. And if yes, who am I to turn to? Last edited by GTO : 10th July 2010 at 18:47. Reason: Removing FONT tags. Please avoid copying text from other word softwares
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Tassem BHPian Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Bangalore Posts: 614 Thanked: 1,449 Times View My Garage	@ Mrinal: Sorry about the disappointment. Will the xenos remote module fit in the flippy key you bought? Ignore the blue button cause its a dummy. The key is for a lancer. Attached Thumbnails
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12th July 2010, 20:33	#162
Tassem BHPian Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Bangalore Posts: 614 Thanked: 1,449 Times View My Garage	Guess I'm out of luck then. I tried speaking with the Xenos guys to see if any of their other remotes can function with the unit in my car. While they were willing to help, they said that the remotes they have are non-programmable across the different units available. This confuses me. As when I bought a replacement remote, it took them all of 5 minutes to program it. They flip a button on the unit, wait for the signal led and then press the buttons on the remote for each function. I just read that above statement and it looks confusing to me. But I'm sure anyone who's had a remote replaced knows what I'm talkin about. Now, the big question I have is whether we can buy programmable remotes online. Like those watches which came with the tv remote. That'd be a good thing now, wont it? tassem.
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21st July 2010, 16:36	#163
MrinalSinha BHPian Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 202 Thanked: 23 Times	Any progress Epic sir? Mine is all stuck. I have got a new remote with 3 3-inline buttons. I have sent the dimensions to the DSP guys and I am awaiting reply.
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2nd December 2010, 22:40	#164
John BHPian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Secunderabad Posts: 388 Thanked: 527 Times	One of they keys of my Innova, with the remote buttons, got badly damaged (the plastic case broke). I checked with Toyota dealer who quote Rs.10,000 (yes, that's right!) for a new key. While browsing the net, came across M/s Krishnaraj Enterprises. After some correspondence with Pulin Ashar, I sent the damaged key to them, they transplanted the transponder module into a new flip key case and cut and fitted a new key. Voila, I now have this great looking flip key with the Toyota logo etc. Damages, including courier charges - Rs.1500!! John Last edited by John : 2nd December 2010 at 22:43.
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