ARTICLE: Synthetic oil vs Mineral oil

BUSA · 19th August 2007, 01:01

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In tvpm CH 1 costs just rs 921

Is that for a can of 4 Liters? Does not Mobil manufacture CF and CH sepcs?

Akshay1234 · 21st August 2007, 11:55

my getz needs only 3.3 liters. will i be able to get the exact amount or 3.5 liters or will i have to buy 4 liters? also sorry for asking so many times but ive still not decided which oil im gonna buy. castrol or mobil 1?

and rtech you had mentioned 650 per liter of oil at city motors, for which oil is that?

deepakvrao · 21st August 2007, 16:06

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Originally Posted by BUSA

Getting 5W-50 aint easy.

I spoke to Mobil1 head office, they had only 5W-40.

Spoke to Shell, they had 5W-40 and 15W-50(Skoda uses it)

Now what to do, stick to 5W-50 and go all the way to Opera house or change grade.

Car - Chevrolet Optra 1.8
Flush GM uses - OWS

Saw a online report which says that 5w-40 is the upgraded version of 15w-50 and I can confirm that Skoda in Bangalore atleast is using the 5W-40

BUSA · 21st August 2007, 16:25

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Originally Posted by akshay1234

my getz needs only 3.3 liters. will i be able to get the exact amount or 3.5 liters or will i have to buy 4 liters? also sorry for asking so many times but ive still not decided which oil im gonna buy. castrol or mobil 1?

and rtech you had mentioned 650 per liter of oil at city motors, for which oil is that?

650 per liter is Mobil1. You wont get 3.5Liters, you will get 4L can.

Go for Mobil1 better then Castrol IMHO.

Akshay1234 · 21st August 2007, 16:37

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Originally Posted by BUSA

650 per liter is Mobil1. You wont get 3.5Liters, you will get 4L can.

Go for Mobil1 better then Castrol IMHO.

but what do i do with the other 700ml?? and is a 4l can cheaper than 4 1l cans?

panky12345 · 21st August 2007, 17:22

Do i need to flush my engine before using semi synthetic?? my engine is app 97K old and I havent flushed even once.

Jaggu · 21st August 2007, 18:17

There are two types of flushing:

1) Using regular flushing oil (approx 100 rs/lit), just put in the recommended quantity (same as engine oil capacity) and run the car at slightly raised idle (1500-2000 rpm) for 10-15 mts, drain and refill.

This is pretty safe and recommended for high milaege engines

2) Using flushing products (OWS, STP etc) for flush.
These are detergents/chemicals which will clean the inards, if done every 20,000 kms will be ok but for older engines it can cause issues at times.

So @panky: get some flushing oil and flush and then put the semi synthetic oil in.

csateesh · 21st August 2007, 22:42

Oil specification as per the manual

Multigrade : 15w40
Standard : API-CF4 or Above

And I use Mobil 1 5w-50

Am I using the right oil?

Cheers

Sateesh

nitrous · 21st August 2007, 22:46

Yes,Satheesh.
Mobil1 5W50 is ok for the Accent CRDI.

razor4077 · 22nd August 2007, 01:36

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Originally Posted by Jaggu

Using engine flush might be a bad idea and do you really wanna put so much of money (read sysnth oil) on 93 k kms engine?? wont make so much of difference and risks are higher.

Could you explain this? I was under the impression (and do correct me if I'm wrong) that the added protection synth oil provides would be beneficial to an old engine. What risks are you referring to? I agree that flushing might lead to removal of some deposits that act as seals, but why is using synth oil a risk in itself?

prince85 · 22nd August 2007, 10:35

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Originally Posted by Jaggu

1) Using regular flushing oil (approx 100 rs/lit), just put in the recommended quantity (same as engine oil capacity) and run the car at slightly raised idle (1500-2000 rpm) for 10-15 mts, drain and refill.

This is pretty safe and recommended for high milaege engines
.

jAGGU, could you name a few brands of flushing oils that are good and available in india

nitrous · 22nd August 2007, 11:40

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Originally Posted by jaggu

1) Using regular flushing oil (approx 100 rs/lit), just put in the recommended quantity (same as engine oil capacity) and run the car at slightly raised idle (1500-2000 rpm) for 10-15 mts, drain and refill.

This is what the OWS flush does.

panky12345 · 22nd August 2007, 12:38

thanks Jaggu.... any particular brands?

vrooooooom · 22nd August 2007, 13:00

My Indica(Petrol) has done 35K Kms...Planning to switch to synthetic...any suggestions??? I want to know about the recommended grade.Where can I get that?

nitrous · 22nd August 2007, 13:44

For the Petrol Indica, U can use 5W50 of a reputed brand like Mobil1,OWS, Shell helix ultra,etc.
Do flush ur engine before changing to synthetic.

21st August 2007, 11:55	#527
Akshay1234 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 10,266 Thanked: 12,317 Times	my getz needs only 3.3 liters. will i be able to get the exact amount or 3.5 liters or will i have to buy 4 liters? also sorry for asking so many times but ive still not decided which oil im gonna buy. castrol or mobil 1? and rtech you had mentioned 650 per liter of oil at city motors, for which oil is that?
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21st August 2007, 17:22	#531
panky12345 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: New Delhi Posts: 2,697 Thanked: 171 Times	Do i need to flush my engine before using semi synthetic?? my engine is app 97K old and I havent flushed even once.
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21st August 2007, 18:17	#532
Jaggu Team-BHP Support Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 20,215 Thanked: 15,907 Times	There are two types of flushing: 1) Using regular flushing oil (approx 100 rs/lit), just put in the recommended quantity (same as engine oil capacity) and run the car at slightly raised idle (1500-2000 rpm) for 10-15 mts, drain and refill. This is pretty safe and recommended for high milaege engines 2) Using flushing products (OWS, STP etc) for flush. These are detergents/chemicals which will clean the inards, if done every 20,000 kms will be ok but for older engines it can cause issues at times. So @panky: get some flushing oil and flush and then put the semi synthetic oil in.
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21st August 2007, 22:42	#533
csateesh BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 551 Thanked: 168 Times View My Garage	Engine Oil for Accent CRDi Oil specification as per the manual Multigrade : 15w40 Standard : API-CF4 or Above And I use Mobil 1 5w-50 Am I using the right oil? Cheers Sateesh
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21st August 2007, 22:46	#534
nitrous Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: UAE/Lon/Madras Posts: 6,965 Thanked: 325 Times View My Garage	Yes,Satheesh. Mobil1 5W50 is ok for the Accent CRDI.
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22nd August 2007, 12:38	#538
panky12345 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: New Delhi Posts: 2,697 Thanked: 171 Times	thanks Jaggu.... any particular brands?
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22nd August 2007, 13:00	#539
vrooooooom BHPian Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Kolkata Posts: 97 Thanked: 3 Times View My Garage	My Indica(Petrol) has done 35K Kms...Planning to switch to synthetic...any suggestions??? I want to know about the recommended grade.Where can I get that?
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22nd August 2007, 13:44	#540
nitrous Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: UAE/Lon/Madras Posts: 6,965 Thanked: 325 Times View My Garage	For the Petrol Indica, U can use 5W50 of a reputed brand like Mobil1,OWS, Shell helix ultra,etc. Do flush ur engine before changing to synthetic.
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