[Kelly66]

Originally Posted by Dr.AD

My 320d's EGR cooler was also replaced today under this recall campaign.

Hi Dr.AD, I gave my car for some body shop work at Deutsche Motoren and was supposed to get it back today. The SA called up and said my car (based on VIN number) is showing up for EGR replacement and that they will do it FOC and return it tomorrow evening or Friday morning since part is available.

While I am happy they are doing it, it's the second replacement for me. Just before your message above I got my first one done at Navnit Motors in Aug 2019.

Will BMW do a recall twice? Are DM guys trying to cover up some other issue?

Since I won't get the part back (as they will have to send it to BMW) any idea how to check whether they really replaced it and not just bought time. They can always show someone else's EGR part, right?

Has anyone's car been called twice?

[Dr.AD]

Originally Posted by Kelly66

Hi Dr.AD, I gave my car for some body shop work at Deutsche Motoren and was supposed to get it back today. The SA called up and said my car (based on VIN number) is showing up for EGR replacement and that they will do it FOC and return it tomorrow evening or Friday morning since part is available.

Will BMW do a recall twice? Are DM guys trying to cover up some other issue?

Has anyone's car been called twice?

Wow! Amazing coincidence that you asked this today when I had the exact same experience just today! I was about to post this in next couple of days.

My car went for some routine work (HSRP installation, actually) at KUN BMW (former Navnit Motors, where my car has been serviced since Day 1), and they said the exact same thing. My VIN check showed EGR Cooler recall again. And they had the part in stock and they replaced it the same day.

Even I am surprised that the same recall is happening twice (or in fact it is thrice for me, since first time was way back in 2019, and then there was another recall again in August 2023, and this is the third time now). It does look like BMW is not getting that EGR cooler design right, and there is still some problem that they are trying to solve.

While I am also a bit perplexed that a part needs multiple recalls, I think it is genuine and you should rest your fears or doubts. I am happy that they did this proactively, on time, and free of cost to me.

Since I won't get the part back (as they will have to send it to BMW) any idea how to check whether they really replaced it and not just bought time. They can always show someone else's EGR part, right?

Kun BMW (and earlier Navnit too) have a system where they take a video of work done (with clearly showing the old part out and new part installed in the car) and they send me that video (they have some link sharing system) through official message. I got that video today too.

Overall, I found BMW dealers and their systems to be fairly trustworthy, and unless you have a strong evidence or reason otherwise, I would believe they changed the part. Think of it like this, if they did not want to change it, they need not have told you anything at all. They proactively told you about this recall, and BMW closely tracks part numbers of parts replaced and new parts under this recall campaign. So they can not just buy time. Unless they change the parts and recorded the part numbers and closed this recall, this recall will keep showing in the system if they just buy time, and there is nothing that they gain from this. So unless you have some strong reason, trust it is all fine and enjoy your car!

[Kelly66]

Originally Posted by Dr.AD

It does look like BMW is not getting that EGR cooler design right, and there is still some problem that they are trying to solve.

Thanks for your quick reply. It is reassuring indeed.

The SA told me that this EGR issue would be coming up because of contaminated fuel and he was trying to sell his additive worth Rs.1000/- for every tank full. I know some BHPians are mixing these additives but seems very expensive for every top up.

Originally Posted by Dr.AD

Kun BMW (and earlier Navnit too) have a system where they take a video of work done (with clearly showing the old part out and new part installed in the car) and they send me that video (they have some link sharing system) through official message. I got that video today too.

DM did share a video while making the job card. Will ask them share a video of the work done too

[el lobo 6061]

Originally Posted by Kelly66

Hi Dr.AD, I gave my car for some body shop work at Deutsche Motoren and was supposed to get it back today. The SA called up and said my car (based on VIN number) is showing up for EGR replacement and that they will do it FOC and return it tomorrow evening or Friday morning since part is available.

Will BMW do a recall twice? Are DM guys trying to cover up some other issue?

Originally Posted by Dr.AD

Even I am surprised that the same recall is happening twice (or in fact it is thrice for me, since first time was way back in 2019, and then there was another recall again in August 2023, and this is the third time now). It does look like BMW is not getting that EGR cooler design right, and there is still some problem that they are trying to solve.

BMW is running this EGR campaign for a while. They inspect the EGR for any blockage. If yes, then only replace the EGR. Otherwise not.

BMW India has set a frequency of 3 Months or 3000 Kms; whichever is earler.

On my X1 20d, this campaign has been performed 4 times already. Every time they find EGR on my X1 20d okay and DO NOT REPLACE it.

Your car would be doing it same.

Part cost Rs 60,000.

[Kelly66]

Originally Posted by el lobo 6061

BMW is running this EGR campaign for a while.

Part cost Rs 60,000.

Yes, including labour it is 75K. I was told this campaign may not last long. Is this EGR blockage because of contaminated fuel? After the campaign we will have to spend money from our pocket, unless BMW fixes the issue with these replacements.

[Dr.AD]

Originally Posted by el lobo 6061

BMW is running this EGR campaign for a while. They inspect the EGR for any blockage. If yes, then only replace the EGR. Otherwise not.

True. That specific component is "EGR Cooler", which is part of the EGR system. This is a faulty component and is under a global recall .

On my X1 20d, this campaign has been performed 4 times already. Every time they find EGR on my X1 20d okay and DO NOT REPLACE it.

OK, I see. Not replaced even once in four checks is a bit surprising. Mine was checked three times by now, and replaced two times out of the three.

Originally Posted by Kelly66

Yes, including labour it is 75K. I was told this campaign may not last long. Is this EGR blockage because of contaminated fuel?

Nope, I do not think this has anything to do with fuel quality. This is a global issue, and a global recall. This component ("EGR Cooler" to be specific) is faulty and BMW has replaced it globally under a global recall.

Here is another thread on this topic: https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/india...ible-fire.html (BMW may recall over 1 million diesel cars globally due to EGR defect & possible fire!)

Here is one more old news but related to the same topic: https://www.team-bhp.com/news/bmw-re...hem-catch-fire

After the campaign we will have to spend money from our pocket, unless BMW fixes the issue with these replacements.

I do not think you have to worry about having to pay for this. This will be covered under the recalls, at least for a foreseeable amount of time. This is a not a use related defect. As mentioned in above threads, BMW has admitted that this is a faulty component and they will keep replacing it under their recall campaign, free of cost to the customers.

[Kelly66]

Originally Posted by graaja

Yes. The wear indicator will be closer to 5mm or so. You will still have some life with the pads after the wear indicators are exposed.

As you mention that you don't brake hard, that could be the reason for the 60K life that iDrive is predicting for the pads. It calculates the wear based on how hard you brake and at what speeds you brake etc.

Hi graaja, I was getting some slight squealing noise occassionally while apply brakes. I have driven around 39600 kms and my front stock brake pad is still showing 60K km to go and rear stock is showing 45K km to go

Couple of days ago I got my EGR cooler replaced FOC and asked them to check the pads. Front pads are 4.5mm thick and Rear pads are 5 mm thick. Although the body shop guy was saying there is some uneven wear in the brake disc, the technician said it was fine.

They cleaned and lubricated the brake pads and they went for a test drive without me and said there is no noise, but after about an hour of driving I can still hear a slight squeal albeit less frequently. Is it possible for the disc to wear out before the pads do?

Anyway, I will be going for my annual service in July and will check my rear shock absorber (since I replaced the front shocks in Nov 23) as well since someone mentioned this noise could be from the shocks. Will also check the brake disc thickness.

Any thoughts from you and other friends will be helpful.

PS: Just finished reading every post of your amazing "Fat to Fit journey". Will reply there soon.

[graaja]

Originally Posted by Kelly66

Is it possible for the disc to wear out before the pads do?
...
PS: Just finished reading every post of your amazing "Fat to Fit journey". Will reply there soon.

Mostly the discs last for two sets of pads. In my car, just once the front discs wore out with one set of pads. So, I think there is a possibility of the disc wearing out in your case too. The best would be to get the thickness checked.

The brake pad life indicator on the iDrive is useless. The displayed life can go from 20K kilometers to 2K kilometers in a day when the wear indicator on the pads is exposed. I usually do a visual inspection of the pads to gauge the thickness.

Saw your post in the Fat to Fit thread. Thank you for the kind words Will respond in detail there.

[raghavrayudu]

Originally Posted by Kelly66

Hi graaja, I was getting some slight squealing noise occassionally while apply brakes. I have driven around 39600 kms and my front stock brake pad is still showing 60K km to go and rear stock is showing 45K km to go

Just got my all 4 rotors and break pads changed from Infinity Lalbaugh. the iDrive status is worthless as previously mentioned. mine was showing 32000 left on rear pads, however I told the SA to have a look on all of them. and all of them required replacement. this is the second replacement of pads, so the wear of rotors is expected obviously. 'It's just the sensors aren't reading the break pads either properly.

SA also told that sensor is displaced, which I expect that should come as warning or some sort, but northing on that lines.

Also, got the EGR replaced along with.



This is the EGR valve by the way, which was cleaned and replaced during the process.


did anyone notice the throttle response change with EGR replacement ?? just curious to know

[Kelly66]

Originally Posted by raghavrayudu

SA also told that sensor is displaced, which I expect that should come as warning or some sort, but northing on that lines.


did anyone notice the throttle response change with EGR replacement ?? just curious to know

Will get the brake disc thickness checked in July. THe pads are still fine based on the thickness measured.

After EGR replacement, vehicle felt lot smoother while accelerating.

[Kelly66]

Seven year itch - Trade in of BMW 320d Prestige F30 LCI (2016) with a BMW 330i GT M Sport (2020) - Yes or No?

Hi friends,

I am going through a seven year itch. I came across a BMW 330i GT M Sport (2020) model (Red colour with black alloys and black kidney grill) which is driven only 7200 kms by single owner. Price quoted by the dealer is 43.75L. Last Recorded Price as per Carwale is 64.5L OR. It doesn't have a HUD though. I haven't seen it in person but via photos/video it looks in great condition.

Since its a discontinued model is it worth a switch from my 320d Prestige (March 2017 Regn), which has done 41000 kms and running perfectly fine.

What should be the realistic ask price for the 330i and the 320d for a trade in?

Thanks!

[lamborghini]

Originally Posted by Kelly66

[h3]

Since its a discontinued model is it worth a switch from my 320d Prestige (March 2017 Regn), which has done 41000 kms and running perfectly fine.


Thanks!

Honestly there is nothing to really gain - the interiors and general feeling will be very similar to your existing F30 except the added power. Towards the end, these cars were sold at a massive discount keeping in mind the model change + covid.

Instead it would make more sense to look for a G20 330i - newer and nicer interiors, nicer to drive, etc. which should be had for a similar price as this GT; or the bigger and more mature G30 530i.

[itwasntme]

Originally Posted by lamborghini

Instead it would make more sense to look for a G20 330i - newer and nicer interiors, nicer to drive, etc. which should be had for a similar price as this GT; or the bigger and more mature G30 530i.

Agree with the G20 recommendation. The price quoted is pretty high I feel.

Also do note that the F34 GT had a softish suspension, as faced by various owners including graaja who went for a M Sport suspension upgrade.

[ex-innova-guy]

Originally Posted by suhaas307

I have recently acquired a super-clean 328i.

It was nice to see your car featured in a video that also mentioned of TBHP and you being a mod.

https://youtu.be/3YtS9hwh6c8?si=bT-wHLVSksYh2u7v

[rmrkochi]

Hi everyone,

Last September, I upgraded from a pre-owned Vento 1.6 to a 2014 F30, which has been a significant improvement for me. When I purchased it, the odometer was around 62,000 kilometers. I've thoroughly enjoyed every aspect of my new car!

In October 2023, I had the rear brake pads replaced and the oil and filter changed at the nearest FNG. When the reset was done, the next scheduled oil change was due on 12K/October 2024. I know the oil change needs to happen based on the CBS in BMs. However, I ended up changing the oil in January 2024 and again in April 2024 as per the OCI displayed. In short, my oil changes occurred at approximately 62K, 67K, and 73K kilometers.

I use the car daily for my 7-kilometer commute to the office, which takes about 20 minutes each way. On weekends, I typically drive about 50 kilometers and occasionally take longer trips.

I'm unsure whether this frequency of oil changes aligns with the CBS recommendations and is quite normal or if there might be another issue that needs to be diagnosed.