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BHPian ![]() | ![]() I agree with a lot of what you have said, but at the end of the day the overall package of the city is way better than the petrol verna. I cannot comment on the diesel as I have not driven either. The petrol volkswagon with its beautiful 1.2 tsi+dsg box is superior in drive and fit and finish. But I just found it very cramped for some reason. The back seat of the honda is a class topper and so are the features. The things I don't like about the honda are: 1. Better quality music system. Even the top end one looks a bit sad. The screen is full and the software is a decade behind. 2. Better fit and finish 3. Use of soft plastics on dash board area 4. The whole dashboard looks like three different people designed it 9 Other then these couple of things, it's a great car and one that you enjoy driving specially in the city. |
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Senior - BHPian ![]() | ![]() Did a combine drive of 87 km today. Took me 4 hours and 45 minutes cos of excessive jams due to Rakhi. Trust me I am not at all tired. That's how comfortable City is when it comes to driving in city areas. Of course it has shortcomings but then which car hasn't? If asked again I will again pick City over Verna. |
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| ![]() Oh..4 hours and 45 minutes is pretty long time for 87kms!! Just tells how much traffic was there on the roads due to rakhi!! Well, the concept of city itself is the car should be comfortable to drive in city conditions. And it's good to know that it is fulfilling the aim. The whole argument of city vs Verna is never ending I guess! ! ☺ |
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As I said earlier we have 2nd gen city in my family (uncle is still using it) and those days Honda was upmarket compared to other brands like Maruti/Hyundai but that is not true any more. Quote:
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| ![]() No offence to the healthy discussion going on here, but I sincerely think we should create a new thread for this segment of cars like Rapid, Vento, Verna, City, Linea,etc. where the differences could be discussed/enjoyed/debated, the reason being, that this is a Honda City thread which consists mainly of people who have already proved that they believe only in the City by already buying it and hence automatically meaning that it's the best, for them. So the debate doesn't hold much substance, in a way. Just my two cents. Again, no offence but this is what I felt. Feels like spoiling their party. ![]() |
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With regards to Rapid and Vento, I was looking for a Petrol car right from the start. Although Rapid and Vento are pretty sturdy as compared to City and Verna, but the FE part, the high maintenance cost, horrible after sales service etc. kept me away from both these cars. The huge floor-hump on the back-seat is a huge turn-off. I had checked out the third gen city when it was still available and it had the same story as that of Verna. To put into perspective if people do not expect such quality lapses from Honda, how do people accept such huge floor hump from a manufactures whose Sister company is of the likes of BMW and others. I do not expect such things from the VW group. So for me Vento & Rapid did not qualify. The Skoda and the VW Sales guys kept on pestering me with calls and offering all sorts of discounts and stuff just to try and get me to book their car. Why? Because they are not selling. Quote:
For the tyres, I look at it this way. Honda has designed the car and they know it more than anyone else does as to what tyres should be good enough. We upgrade the tyres because we want to travel at higher speeds and hence want more stability. Our Highways have a max. speed limit of 80 Kmph and only in a few cases it is upto 100 Kmph and nowhere above that. Considering these legal speed limits, Honda has given the 175s. Is it wrong on Honda's part? Definitely not. There are a lot of BHPians driving with the stock 175s and have not reported any problems on the same and are pretty happy with the performance of the stock tyres too. Again, if you look at the Ownership reports of a lot of BHPians, they haven't gone blindly for City. They have seen and driven the likes of Verna/Rapid/Vento. But at the end the decision is always based on the Overall package that one is getting. | ||
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Regarding floor hump, it definitely creates inconvenience but please check the attached thread (image at the end of first page) http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/techni...ml#post2366223 | |
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BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: Mumbai / Gold Coast
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| ![]() On the topic being discussed in the last few posts - Honda's quality - for me it's not just the bit about comparing it to the competition, the bigger disappointment for me is Honda's own gradual decline in fit and finish. Lets not look at the Brio platform for now, it was meant to be low-cost. The City itself has seen a decline in quality, the NHC was brilliant in terms of fit and finish, the plastics used, the tactile feel - everything. The ANHC's fit ND finish went a little low rent compared to the outgoing model but was still ahead of the competition at launch, plastics were harder but it was well screwed together. The latest one is a downgrade on the ANHC let alone the NHC, hard plastics with poor finish, things not well put together - e.g. My business partner purchased the petrol, within two weeks of delivery, the rubber strip that manufacturers these days refer to as a dead pedal had come unglued and was at the drivers' feet and I mean completely unglued! Honda did fix it back during service but quite frankly this isn't what Honda quality is supposed to be.... Last edited by da_lowrider : 11th August 2014 at 11:20. Reason: typos |
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The 175s are there for a reason - ARAI Mileage. Of course, anything less would be a disaster. | |
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We can keep on debating over the tyres but the fact remains that only Honda knows why they have given 175s and they would have certainly taken the safety factor of thinner tyres into consideration. ![]() The likes of BMWs & Audi must be having their top speeds above 200+ Kmph. I don't think anybody would be able to confirm that the tyres they provide stock would be able to withstand that top speed even if India were to have roads that would help in achieving those speeds. | |
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Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: Pune
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| ![]() Went to Crystal Honda and checked out both the City & the Mobilio. Honda is selling cars on its good will and the now famed engine. Nothing else seems class leading. The wow factor faded for me after the smashing exterior. The interior is hardly beige, its a pale yellow shade and a sea of it. The plastic quality is on-par with the rest but the design of the switch gear such as the steering mounted audio controls seems elementary. Some really interesting misses on the City were the missing touch screen on the ICE when the A.C.C is a touch operated unit on the top end. The boot does not have cladding and the wires are exposed even on the top end. I found the overall experience (except the drive) 2 notches lower than what i expected. The less said about the Mobilio the better. I'm simply dumb founded as to why doesn't Honda sell fully loaded cars with little things taken care of and price them like Hyundai? Hyundai sells at a premium to the rest when it comes to the top 2 trims and still does good numbers. I will not buy a Honda for upwards of 10lacs simply cause it has a brilliant engine. So i'm going to wait a little more and use my Getz until the festive season sees a few more launches. My current frame of reference is the Ecosport I own. Last edited by Nilesh5417 : 11th August 2014 at 11:56. |
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| ![]() I was just going through the pictures of the new Jazz which is due later in this year and found that the dashboard of the two cars is almost identical. I believe Jazz is a far more important car for Honda than City due to its global market hence it is definitely not the case that it was just slapped on to a car like city without any thought. Except for the touch screen ICE whose processor some people have compared to that of a Casio wrist watch calculator ( which my car doesn't have because I own the SV variant so I can not comment about it from personal experience), I don't find any flaw in the design. But may be I prefer function over form. May be to me the A/C vents are just at the perfect height. May be for me the slight tilt in the central console gives me a feel and confidence that all controls are within my reach. But then again, beauty lies in the eyes of the beholder. While some people are hating what Honda is calling "Sophisticated Futuristic Cockpit" but at the same time some are in love with it. |
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| ![]() Inspected Carnelian Red I-DTEC SV before it moved out for registration. All look fine. July 2014 Make. No Scratches any thing of that sort. Planning to take delivery by Wednesday. Attaching 2 pics. Will post a detailed ownership review soon... Thanks to all Team BHP members for all the suggestions.... Last edited by Seran Manian : 11th August 2014 at 15:57. |
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