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Originally Posted by Vid6639 Camera is good to have but the sensors are better in telling accurate distance. Many times the camera being wide angle it becomes difficult to judge the distance. And remember in pitch dark roads the camera is not of much use. If the camera is dirty with mud during rains then it's again useless. This is where the sensors come in. Ideal would be combination of both. |
I agree, combination of both would definitely be good. But many a times, I find the sensors beeping even when there is thick a strand of grass (found this in our Dzire - might be different in other cars with a different set of sensors). That is why I came to the conclusion that camera is better than sensors. In dark roads, etc the reversing light will be of great use to provide necessary illumination. The i20 gets only one, since it is not pointed out in the review, I hope the Jazz gets two.
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Originally Posted by Vid6639 You realise how useful it is only after you experience it. Both my cars have it and as I mentioned at 6 feet tall I found the steering too far away for my liking. This gives the perfect position else you need to adjust to this. |
Probably, I never realized the usefulness. But, inn our Dzire, even with the driver seat pushed all the way back, I wish the steering was farther away - I find it too close to me

Since I had the feeling that the telescopic adjustment will be to pull the steering further close, I assumed it will not be of much use, at least for tall guys.
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Originally Posted by Vid6639 Again this works like a charm. HEadlights turn on when entering a tunnel or a basement parking. They go off when you exit the tunnel/basement. Keep the lights on Auto and you don't even need to turn the lights off when getting out.
It's like saying why do you need central locking or power steering. You can put in additional effort and drive without them as well. You lose only convenience. |
You nailed it with the word '
convenience' - Power steering and central locks are convenience features which assist the driver. Opinions might differ, but I feel the Auto-headlights and wipers are over-assisting. Just like how an over-assisting steering is not appreciated, I do not appreciate the over assisted feature especially in cars like i20, where the reviews clearly point out the amount of delay in it switching on and off.
Instead of this feature, I would have absolutely loved to have a feature when the beam automatically changes from high to low and otherwise based on the conditions and vehicle coming in the opposite direction. That is what I will call convenience. Here, it is just a twist of a button to turn on and off the lights at points I clearly know if it is required or not. My opinion this, you are free to disagree
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Originally Posted by Vid6639 So the BMW and Merc that offer self parking are driven by people who don't know how to drive cause they have a parking assist system which turns the steering for them. In the i20 it's basic in which it tells you if the steering is straight or turned. |
No Vidyut, I feel the comparison is not justified. Once again, a convenience feature is compared to a over-assisted indulgent feature. Parking assistance is to aid a driver to park in a tough parallel parking situation. This is convenience, a driving aid. How does telling me that the wheel is not straight so much of a convenience, I know that the moment I see the steering wheel (or even better before I enter the car).
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Originally Posted by Vid6639 YEs auto locking doors should have been there in i20 but how does instantaneous and average FE indicator help you? Is it a feature that you cannot live with it, if the car doesn't show you the FE. Why rely on technology. Calculate average FE when tanking up. |
Not a feature I cannot live without. But again a convenience feature that will help a FE conscious driver to tune his driving and a lazy driver who does not bother to calculate by tank-full method. It isn't a game-changer for me. But this is a nice to have feature for sure along with Distance to Empty (which again is absent in i20).
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Originally Posted by Vid6639 R15 or R14 doesn't matter that much. It's the width that matters. Honda offers 175 across the board which is not bad but Maruti give 185 in the Swift Z variant, Hyundai give 195/55-16 in the 2 top versions and VW gives 185 in the Polo. |
Totally agree. I mentioned this point just because many of our members seem to complain that Honda is offering only R15 and R14 when competition is offering R16. The higher tire radius is more of a cosmetic feature what will make the wheel well look more filled. I totally agree the width of tire is much more important.
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Originally Posted by Vid6639 In the top end Honda is not as well equipped. Lower variants are evenly matched. |
Once again, I totally agree. I never told that Jazz is well equipped. It is decently equipped and just enough so that I do not feel anything essential is missing. However, when we see the pricing, Honda should have equipped the car MUCH BETTER for the price or priced the car MUCH LOWER for what it offers. As simple as that.