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Originally Posted by dezrskb Going by advise by some of the YouTube channels (Car Care Nut and few others), engine oil change every 8000 Kms is advisable rather than waiting for 10K Kms. But is it advisable if I can afford oil change every 5K Kms? Is it good ? will it do any harm ? could anyone here who has the technical knowledge advise ? |
Not just Car Care Nut, Motor Oil Geek and countless others as well as every competent mechanic I’ve ever asked in my life will tell you 10k is too much and isn’t best practice as far as oil changes go.
You’re not interpreting the user manual correctly. Toyota (and Honda and Merc) and probably every other mfg. will all say 10k/1 year is the
minimum required service interval. This applies to operation under ideal conditions (which are rarely met).
The correct interval is quickly halved if you operate in harsh conditions, as per my 2013 Camry manual (and every other car manual I’ve ever owned). If you operate mainly in city conditions with frequent stop start type traffic + some cold starts (hell on earth for engine oil), dust and high heat along with subpar quality fuel all contribute to excessive wear and degradation of the oil.
If it’s a yes to even one of the above driving environments, the manual is quick to halve the interval to 5k kms/6 months.
Still, as the Motor Oil Geek says the number of variables when it comes to engine oils tend to infinity and it’s difficult to generalise intervals as everyone uses their car differently, drives differently and lives in different regions.
The only concrete solution is get used oil analysis done, its fairly cheap and you can see exactly how many wear metals are present and if any exceed the safe threshold (just like a blood test.) You don’t have to do this every year, only initially to understand the correct oil change interval tailored to your needs and use case.
In my case, I found wear metals really shoot up after 6800-7000 kms so I flip the oil and filter at 6k kms or 6 months whichever earlier. (Note: test each of your cars individually as no two oils and engines are the same, even if used and driven similarly.)
Keep in mind though I take a highway spin at very high sustained speeds once a month (burns off water and contamination built up in my oil) and all my city driving is over 10 kms, so no short trips.
It’s a misconception that you have to go for the 10k service interval when you’ve just had it serviced 2-3k kms back. Every time you get an oil and filter change, the counter resets, time and distance both.
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Originally Posted by shardul_pathak Hi everyone!
I am on the cusp of buying a new car after parting ways with my 2015 Petrol Toyota Camry. I have been a Toyota user for over 20 years. It started with a Qualis, onto the first generation Innova, then to a Corolla Altis and Finally ended up with a 2015 Toyota Camry. |
Don’t even consider Innova, the interior quality, the plastics and leather, the way it drives (excess body roll in corners), the nearly 10 seconds to 100 is leagues behind the Camry (current or used) and will feel like a proper downgrade considering you’re used to the 2015 Camry.
Why do you want to replace your 2015 with the exact same car from 2017-18?
Either get the current gen from 2020 or get new with some 8-9L discount or get an older one from 2013-14. The last option will be well under 10L and provide great value. If hybrid, just factor 2.5-3L in the cost of purchase for the battery.
6 months ago I too picked up 2013 2.5 (non hybrid) for just 6.9L (single owner, 67k kms, full service record at dealer) and couldn’t be happier.
Just do your due diligence before buying and get a full inspection at a trusted Toyota dealer. With any used car, keep 1-1.5L aside for fluid services/brakes and new tyres and around 4L for a hybrid for fluids/tyres/battery and you’ll be set.
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Originally Posted by hummer This is unToyota, I have heard very good customer care from Toyota service, in fact they are well known for it, may be someone is trying to extract maximum out of a customer.
Which dealership is this, so that we know where to be cautious? |
I’ve tried IJM and MGF and both tried to puff up my bill exactly like this. Honda is no different and merc is no different (worse actually). In fact I’ve yet to find a dealer that didn’t inflate my bill. It’s standard practice to maximise dealer revenue. You have to go over each each line item with eagle eyes and strike out anything that your manual doesn’t call for.
Credit where due, IJM Toyota at least has competent mechanics who have the right tools and follow their SOP’s correctly. As long as you’re ready to overpay for peace of mind, I’ll recommend IJM anyday over other dealers.