[Rodie09]

Quick question to the Safari facelift owner and pre facelift owners:

Is there a safeguard against locking the car with key fob inside? I am talking of the keyless entry versions where one locks unlocks with a request sensor on door.

I am asking this because I recently had an incident of getting locked out on my pre face lift XZA+ version. I was really not expecting this and had heard that such cars don't allow you to lock from outside if key is inside. What followed is another story but first I would want to know what is expected behaviour.

[hAwX]

Cautionary Note: MRF Tire Vulnerability on Safari

Just a heads-up on a recent snag with my Safari's MRF tires. I'm not sure what I hit for it to tear like that, but apparently, it's 100% my fault. So I contacted the dealership, and the CRM told me it's impossible to make a claim as there is no damage to the vehicle, something got stabbed in the tire, which means it's the driver's fault in this case— it's me. They tried getting an extra one from MRF, but apparently, these tires are so new that there's no free stock anywhere in Kerala yet. It will take two weeks on order, so I just made one as the spare wheel is a disgrace.

Please be careful with your 19-inchers, as this proves the sidewall is as soft as a cake. I'm not going to lie, given its name Safari, I used it a bit roughly to test its capabilities, and I was initially impressed. Still, this one issue will forever be remembered, and therefore, the car will be a mall crawler from now on.





I am forced to run with this for the next two weeks, which I'm not sure how to feel about, but it's quite unfortunate. I was getting way too much attention on the road that people keep saying it's just the evil eye. Well, whatever, it's a car, and these kinds of things happen to the best of us. I'm very much disappointed in MRF's sidewall strength though.

Originally Posted by Rodie09

Quick question to the Safari facelift owner and pre facelift owners:

Is there a safeguard against locking the car with key fob inside? I am talking of the keyless entry versions where one locks unlocks with a request sensor on door.

I am asking this because I recently had an incident of getting locked out on my pre face lift XZA+ version. I was really not expecting this and had heard that such cars don't allow you to lock from outside if key is inside. What followed is another story but first I would want to know what is expected behaviour.

The dealers always recommend keeping the physical key in a separate place. That means taking it out of the keyfob and keeping it somewhere accessible. In cases where you accidentally lock yourself out (as the car won't do it by itself), it will be easy to unlock the car.

[Mad100]

Originally Posted by Naveen88

Thanks for sharing your observations about the new safari. I test drove the pre-facelift safari last month and the car felt superb in all aspects especially the Harmon JBL sound system, except for the infamous car pulling towards left when the steering wheel is not hold tightly.
Did you experience any similar issues in the facelift model?

I enquired 2 dealers(Lakshmi tata Ambattur and gokulam motors katupakkam) in Chennai, they didn't have any pure(o) or pure+ variants in display. They were keen on selling the accomplished models which is not of my interest. The sales manager keeps calling me on daily basis to book the vehicle, but my thoughts are you check the vehicle first before booking it.

Did you happen to see pure variants of safari anywhere?

Cheers

No. I test drove in both city and Highway. The car doesn't pull left. The dealers are always pushing me to the top variant. I am looking for this for my brother. I am only see the top variant (Accomplished Plus) in both the dealership.

[Rodie09]

Originally Posted by hAwX

The dealers always recommend keeping the physical key in a separate place. That means taking it out of the keyfob and keeping it somewhere accessible. In cases where you accidentally lock yourself out (as the car won't do it by itself), it will be easy to unlock the car.

Sorry to hear your ordeal with the tyre episode. Hope it's sorted soon.

On the key fob question, I think you have misunderstood my question. Am not looking for tips to avoid situation but wanting to know what is it by design.
Can the car be locked with keyfob inside? One would expect that not to be the case and I am sure I have read about cars refusing to lock if key is left inside.

[hAwX]

Originally Posted by Rodie09

Can the car be locked with keyfob inside? One would expect that not to be the case and I am sure I have read about cars refusing to lock if key is left inside.

Yes, the car can be locked with the keyfob inside, and here's how it happened to me previously with my Nexon. One random fine day, I was in a rush, so I locked all my home doors, got inside the car, started the engine, and placed all the keys and my mobile - including my main door keys, in the storage area near the gear shifter. Unfortunately, this is where 6 out of 10 times, the car keyfob's lock button gets pressed in my case. In my hurry, I failed to notice this, got out of the car, closed the car door to open my main gate, and returned to the car only to realise that I was FULLY locked out. I couldn't even get inside my home nor call for help, as all my essentials were inside the car with the engine running. After 7 minutes of contemplating life, I went to my neighbour, looked up my insurance RSA online, and thankfully, they arrived in 40 minutes to unlock it.

Here, the key fob lock got pressed accidentally and the car got locked with me inside with the driver door open. I got out and closed the locked door. Today, a few hours ago while cleaning the Safari, I tested with the key inside (all over the car including boot and dashboard storage spaces) to see if it gets locked on its own, and it didn't.

[Amrit@wheels]

Originally Posted by hAwX

Cautionary Note: MRF Tire Vulnerability on Safari

This is not surprising at all. 55mm sidewall for such a heavy SUV was never going to work well on our roads. Manufacturers are going for looks over practicality. Tata had already faced this issue when they had launched the Hexa with 19" wheels but had to downsize due to such issues. I wonder why they repeated the same mistake here. The only solution, in my opinion, is to either downsize the wheels and get higher sidewall tires, or drive your 'SUV' like a low-slung hatch.

[MadhavBitra]

Originally Posted by MadhavBitra

Yesterday, I came to know that, during the first incident on 30th Oct, they haven't replaced the battery whereas they did a verification test from Exide and found all good. There was a communication Gap between me and the service executive on the time of delivery (who is different from the one who did the service), my bad, i was missed to review the documents handed over to me at the time of delivery ( there was a test report attached), it is mainly due to the trust with Tata Service and also a little negligence from my side, apologies, they have also did the first service same time.

Finally the issue seems solved (better to say not yet re occurred).
Battery got replaced and fixed on 17th November around 6 PM, vehicle kept ideal at service center until Monday 20th November 10 AM and attempted to start and it worked. I took the delivery around 11:30 AM and parked at office until 7 PM, then taken back to home and parked by 8:30 PM. I attempted start again on 24th Nov Friday 6 PM (a real-time scenario as i usually take this beast once a week) and worked.
So shall we conclude that the issue is with the faulty battery that got fixed during the manufacturing in the month of August 2023?

[spaceunicorn]

Originally Posted by Rodie09

Quick question to the Safari facelift owner and pre facelift owners:

Is there a safeguard against locking the car with key fob inside? I am talking of the keyless entry versions where one locks unlocks with a request sensor on door.

I am asking this because I recently had an incident of getting locked out on my pre face lift XZA+ version. I was really not expecting this and had heard that such cars don't allow you to lock from outside if key is inside. What followed is another story but first I would want to know what is expected behaviour.

That is correct - The car won't let you lock using the door key button if the key is inside. It will also sound that annoying alarm (horn honking for 10 times) which makes you realise you have not taken your key out. Happened to me twice with Safari and n number of times with Tigor EV. Not sure how your car got locked with key inside - after all technology is scary.

[abhinav007_007]

55mm sidewall for such a heavy SUV was never going to work well on our roads.

Not sure from where you got that number; the sidewall is about 135mm which is quite good in my opinion.

[hAwX]

Originally Posted by abhinav007_007

the sidewall is about 135mm which is quite good in my opinion.

Even with 135mm, it's vulnerable to tearing apart easily with hardly any effort. The incident happened to me while I was going 25-30 km/hr on a crushed concrete road. The cost of a new one from MRF is Rs 14,515/-. Maybe I'm just one of a few hundred who are unlucky with their close-to-being low-profile tires.

[damodar]

Originally Posted by hAwX

The incident happened to me while I was going 25-30 km/hr on a crushed concrete road. The cost of a new one from MRF is Rs 14,515/-. Maybe I'm just one of a few hundred who are unlucky with their close-to-being low-profile tires.

Did you check the air pressure in tyres before the tyre cut happened? In my Hexa which is a 2017 model with 235/55 r19 tyres i always make it a point to maintain air pressure as per manufacturers recommendation at cold temperature. Low profile tyres are susceptible to damage with low pressure.

[abhinav007_007]

Folks, I tend to disagree on Safari's tyre being low profile.

Low profile typically means aspect ratio of 25, 35, 45 or likewise.
Anything above 50 is a normal tyre. Safari has 55 aspect ratio.

Also, 15K is quite a normal price for 19 inch 245 tyre. A good low profile 245+ for 19 inch rims cost upwards of 30k+

Ofcourse, any tyre can get damaged depending on what you hit, how sharp it is, angle of impact, speed etc.. The case on this thread is just bad luck I wud say. Consider it so and move on. Things happen while you are on the move!

[Amrit@wheels]

Originally Posted by abhinav007_007

Not sure from where you got that number; the sidewall is about 135mm which is quite good in my opinion.

I meant the aspect ratio is just 55, by mistake typed 55mm. Point still stands, 55 sidewall is too thin for a vehicle of this size, as evident here.

[hAwX]

Originally Posted by damodar

Did you check the air pressure in tyres before the tyre cut happened?.

The TPMS works perfectly in the new Safari. I received the notification the moment it occurred. It has only been a few days since I took delivery, and all four tires have consistently been at 36 psi. However, currently, possibly due to running on the spare tire on front right, my front left tire dropped to 35 psi yesterday afternoon.

Originally Posted by abhinav007_007

15K is quite a normal price for 19 inch 245 tyre.

I don't think 15k is normal; it's cheap for a 19-inch tire. I would rather spend 30k and have peace of mind with much superior tires. I never stepped down from Michelin or Pirelli with my previous cars. I have been running on 275/35/R18 Pilot Sport Cup 2 for my E55 AMG, so I'm used to the imported brands and their prices.

Anyway here's the car after getting some Garware treatment for all the windows Planning to delete all the chrome next.

[josh_27007]

Got my Safari delivered yesterday (Accomplished plus AT). Getting used to this beast now... Along with all the positives, as expected i faced few hiccups and some niggles.

1. Half of the rear connected lights is not working. Facepalm. Had to take the car to service centre just after a day. They said they will have to order that part to be replaced. It will take 2-3 days. I was expecting some issues, but still its a bit disappointing for a brand new Safari. Unfortunately i didn't check it while leaving the showroom after delivery. And i didn't do the PDI as I was out of town.(might be a big mistake on my side, unfortunately). But let's see. Will attach couple of pics.

2. I also feel the brakes are not that powerful and miss that instant braking power. I had to push peddle hard to brake properly. The service executive told me that's like normal braking in Safari. May be I will have to get used to it.

3. Also, Odometer was at 70km on delivery which was a bit higher than I expected for Viman Nagar, Pune showroom but its ok.

4. Also, I am not able to test ADAS as such. Not getting all those lane assist warnings or forward collision warnings. I guess the garland near front bumper might be interfering with ADAS. I will try it again in a day or two. And read through the manual to see if I am missing anything.

5. Got the wiper sprinkler set appropriately to cover complete windshield.

Its a pleasure to drive it. I am just a bit anxious as this is my first big car, and expensive one.

just hoping that it will be a great buy and won't give me continuous issues. Just want to have a solid car which will last long... Keeping my fingers crossed.

Otherwise no issues w.r.t. performance or drive etc. the steering does feel a tad bit heavier than my liking but its nice. Feels great in hand. Overtaking is so easy and rough roads are not even felt inside. Great suspension. Feels so powerful. It had always been my dream car since college days and feels awesome to achieve one of your dreams after so many years of wait...