[puntolover]

And another video of Ax5 L variant

https://youtu.be/_bqiSX8cFrU?si=OHAXdOaOsTzLHYMV

[White bird]

Originally Posted by jimmyjagga

Of my limited experience in automotive I have seen two broad groups one who have the resources and can afford, and then those who criticise. The proof however is in the pudding and those who can manage to eat it.
I would love to meet a gentleman who can afford fortuner and still buys a Thar/ Jimny / Scorpio/ Safari, as their solo daily ride.

Like I mentioned my expertise is limited to what I own and drive.

Regards

I had an old CRDE Thar, an agriculture vehicle, sold it a few months back. Now have a Jimny. The Fortuner, I keep for family journeys and the Jimny for solo journeys and to places where parking is a problem. No way a Mahindra can be compared to a Toyota. Never.

[darkpython9]

Originally Posted by White bird

No way a mahindra can be compared to a toyota.Never.

You saying never doesn't mean it will never happen buddy, our homegrown manufacturers have upped the game quite a bit and also keep in mind that more than half the models in Toyota's line up are now Suzukis.

But even if you ignore the Suzukis, the 5 Door Thar holds up pretty well while being compared to the Fortuner (which is more than double the price in top spec).

Another reminder that the Scorpio pick-up in other countries is being pit up against the Land Cruiser 70 series .

So, please keep an open mind don't jump to conclusions before you've seen our home grown vehicles, i.e The Thar Roxx.

[manjubp]

Originally Posted by White bird

No way a mahindra can be compared to a toyota.Never.

The Fortuner costs more than twice as much as the Thar, so expecting the Thar to match or surpass the Fortuner isn't realistic. Given that the Thar is about 50% less expensive, if it delivers 70% to 80% of what the Fortuner offers, it still represents good value for money. The segments are different, so comparing them directly isn't ideal.

Comparing Thar with Fortuner would be similar to comparing the Fortuner with the Prado, would anybody who can afford a Prado buy a Fortuner?

[a023624a]

Originally Posted by White bird

No way a mahindra can be compared to a toyota.Never.

Actually, we don’t want it to be so. We’re content getting a modern yet value for money product from our very own Mahindra and don’t want to get robbed by Toyota selling a 1.5 decades old product for 2x the price of our Mahindra product (ref: overpriced fortuner)

[kgt.v8]

Originally Posted by puntolover

For anyone who is considering Mx5 variant. Here is the video of it

Originally Posted by puntolover

And another video of Ax5 L variant

Thanks for posting links to MX5 and AX5L actual videos and thanks to the reviewers also. Looking at both AX5L and MX5 videos, I went back on YouTube to search for AX7L as lack of door storage area was highlighted in most reviews.

AX7L review from 91wheels is where Bunny Punia shows lack of storage area in both front and rear doors.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3-WwZ_1Nd8

MX5 front door storage


MX5 rear door storage





AX5L front door storage



AX5L rear door storage



AX7L front door storage


AX7L rear door storage



My observations:
- AX7L rear door get almost no storage. The speakers are occupying the storage area in both front and rear doors leading to less storage area in both the doors.
- AX7L front door can store 500ml water bottle at the max and storage area is less. The area in front of the door bottle holder has speakers and hence lesser storage area.
- MX5 and AX5L front and rear doors have similar storage area. Looks deep enough and might be able to accomodate 1 liter water bottle.

My conclusion
- If you want storage area then you have to pick MX5 or AX5L
- If you want good speaker system, then pick AX7L but you loose on door storage areas

[Kosfactor]

Originally Posted by manjubp

The Fortuner costs more than twice as much as the Thar, so expecting the Thar to match or surpass the Fortuner isn't realistic. Given that the Thar is about 50% less expensive, if it delivers 70% to 80% of what the Fortuner offers, it still represents good value for money. The segments are different, so comparing them directly isn't ideal.

Comparing Thar with Fortuner would be similar to comparing the Fortuner with the Prado, would anybody who can offer Prado will buy a Fortuner?

Will a Prado be as dependable as a Fortuner in Indian context? What if you break a windshield, a mirror , how about an animal running across the road and now you have to rebuild your front end ? You think we get Prado parts as easily?

Those who use utility vehicles are a bit more sensible when it comes to making such decisions. It's not about how much money one can afford to spend at once.

You're going to be so surprised if you compare a Fortuner and Thar ROXX in real world driving conditions. Underestimating Mahindra was one big mistake that Toyota made.

[vij]

Originally Posted by manjubp

The Fortuner costs more than twice as much as the Thar, so expecting the Thar to match or surpass the Fortuner isn't realistic. Given that the Thar is about 50% less expensive, if it delivers 70% to 80% of what the Fortuner offers,

Apart from Space and perceived reliability(?), Fortuner doesnt offer much more imo (not power, as it is used up to lug the much heavier vehicle)

[starlord]

Originally Posted by manishk83

Probably, an equivalent car to the Roxx in 2034 will be upwards of 35L . I suppose in NCR, there is no one right decision. For everywhere else, Diesel it is - unless your running is only 500-600 kms a month.

And diesels are a headache in NCR. They don’t let us drive 6 year old diesels in winter. NGT will arbitrarily change rules and make your vehicle useless for the better part of 4 months in a year. Just look at the way big 3 Germans are pivoting back to petrol.

I think running costs would be the last thing on a Thar owners mind. It’s been bought for fun. In my experience petrols are simpler and less of a headache to operate. Wishing for Mahindra to launch the 4x4 petrol manual soon.

[manishk83]

Originally Posted by starlord

And diesels are a headache in NCR. They don’t let us drive 6 year old diesels in winter. NGT will arbitrarily change rules and make your vehicle useless for the better part of 4 months in a year. Just look at the way big 3 Germans are pivoting back to petrol.

I think running costs would be the last thing on a Thar owners mind. It’s been bought for fun. In my experience petrols are simpler and less of a headache to operate. Wishing for Mahindra to launch the 4x4 petrol manual soon.

Well, I ended up buying the Diesel Scorpio-N. why?
- The way I drive, I achieved a mileage of 8.2 kmpl on the Diesel AT on 200 kms of Delhi-Mumbai Expressway, with minimal traffic. I reached unmentionable speeds. I have no idea what mileage I’d have gotten on the Petrol AT - what I do know is that I would have changed my driving style for the petrol. And then, it defeats the whole purpose of buying a big engine.

I wanted freedom from that ‘mileage’ thought every time I pushed the pedal.

Rather me be be sorry after 6 years than worry every time I have a decision to make- have crazy fun driving, or worry about mileage. I chose the former.

But it’s possibly not the right decision for everyone. One maybe happy setting the cruise control at 95 kmph and drive for a 100 kms - Petrol AT will give a very decent 9-10 kmpl. Another may not worry about fun drives on the Petrol AT with a 5 Kmpl.

For me: I tried setting the cruise at 126 kmph and quickly realised that it’s too boring. (Please note that given a margin of error, one can drive upto 130 kmph on a 120 rated highway). On a Petrol AT, I would have possibly set the cruise at 100 kmph.

EDIT: Ownership thread coming up soon!

[starlord]

Originally Posted by manishk83

But it’s possibly not the decision for everyone. One maybe happy setting the cruise control at 95 kmph and drive for a 100 kms. I set the cruise at 126 and quickly realised that it’s too boring. (Please note that given a margin of error, one can drive upto 130 kmph on a 120 rated highway)

To each his own. I rarely derive joy out driving above 100 kmph on a highway, on the contrary it makes me nervous. I’m more focused on eeking out every last kmpl from my cars whether driving the petrol honda or the diesel compass. Lots of low braking/ no braking - conserving momentum driving style. Gives me much more satisfaction - however haven’t beaten my cruise control yet, but one day.

Nonetheless, 95% of my driving is within the city. I prefer strong straight line acceleration for it and the turbo petrol will deliver. Fuel economy be damned. I’d have preferred if Mahindra would have put in a nice sounding v8 petrol in it.

[febin8055]

Hello fellow enthusiasts,

I'm curious to understand the technical aspects of the Intelli Turn feature in the Mahindra Thar RoXX. Can anyone explain how it works? Does it utilize a brake actuator to slow down the inside wheel or does it lock the differentials to enable tighter turn?

[johy]

Originally Posted by White bird

I had an old CRDE Thar, an agriculture vehicle, sold it a few months back. Now have a Jimny. The Fortuner, I keep for family journeys and the Jimny for solo journeys and to places where parking is a problem. No way a Mahindra can be compared to a Toyota. Never.

Nowadays, an apples-to-orange comparison has become more common that you can think!

The Roxx, I think, is positioned more of a lifestyle (than an off-roader), and what is it going to cost for the variants people are drooling for - I think it is just not value for money any more.

Suddenly the Jimny with the current pricing seems like a good buy.

I would put my money, for example, on a Creta Nline before I put it on on the top version of Roxx. And yes, for context, I have been driving a cRDE Thar since 2015 and I like every bit of it.

[1968chensaro]

Friends,

Is it possible to fix after market seat covers for AX7L front seats which has ventilated white seats. Please also indicate whether the ventilation will be affected or not?

[Kashi053]

Homegrown manufacture on the roll. Kudos to Mahindra for focus on high performance engines in lineup like 3X0, 700, ScorpioN or Thar/Roxx.

My next wishlist from Mahindra.

Please develop 6Cyl engine in both Petrol and Diesel avatar. Imagine Mahindra SUV with below spec. This is more aspirational for me than their plans on EV lineup.
Diesel AT with 250bhp & 600NM
Petrol AT with 300bhp & 500NM

Lets say they keep 5-7L more for bigger engine and I believe there will be plenty of enthusiasts who would jump on this.