[Bit]

Originally Posted by kgt.v8

I have seen similar black leatherette covers that dealer fitted on a facelifted Harrier. These are more like seat wraps where side of the seats are open so as not to interfere with airbags operation. Mahindra provides white and black seat cover options on 3XO and 3XO comes with 6 airbags standard. The dealers did not have any picture how black seat cover would look on 3XO AX7 white seats or white seat cover look on AX5 variant with black seats.
If Mahindra can provide good fit and finish black seat cover as official accessory, then may become one of the most sought after accessory after the front grille for Roxx.

Any seat cover (even if dealer provided): How will it work ventilated seats?

Does anyone here has managed to put a seat cover on ventilated seats in any car?

[manishk83]

For NCR Folks (I am one), I did a quick calculation of what it will mean to own the Thar Roxx P-AT vs D-AT. Assumption: At the 10-year mark, you have to replace your Diesel with a new car for which you will spend 30L assuming natural inflation. That 30L car will depreciate 50% in the 5 years where your current Petrol Thar Roxx will still be running - this 15L, I have used 7% to bring to today's value (Net present value concept).

Here's what happens if annual running is 10,000 kms:


Here's what happens if the annual running is 12,000 kms:


Maybe I am doing something wrong. But, diesel makes better sense depite the 10-year ban from a cost perspective. Petrol is no doubt more fun, but that's at the cost of minimum INR 60k/ year in additional fuel costs.

EDIT: And yes, I am a confused soul. In previous comments, I have recommended the Petrol for the additional fun - especially in NCR. But, maths shows what it does.

[vij]

Thar vs Thar Roxx Drag Race

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6PmzXM9XP4

[kgt.v8]

Originally Posted by Bit

Any seat cover (even if dealer provided): How will it work ventilated seats?

Does anyone here has managed to put a seat cover on ventilated seats in any car?

Seat covers are not compatible with ventilated seats. 3XO has no ventilated seats, so seat covers can be fitted on any variant.
MX5 and AX5 variants of Roxx don’t get ventilated seats and have white leatherette seat, so I assume that air bag compatible black seat covers can be fitted on these variants.

[nishsingh]

Originally Posted by manishk83

Maybe I am doing something wrong. But, diesel makes better sense depite the 10-year ban from a cost perspective. Petrol is no doubt more fun, but that's at the cost of minimum INR 60k/ year in additional fuel costs.

Thanks for this.

But, I am guessing you missed out on the small aspect of the Diesel versions being more expensive than their Petrol counterparts?

The Diesel versions would be Rs 60K to Rs 1 Lakh more than their respective Petrol versions. (Apologies if you have already factored this in somewhere in your calculations.)

[manishk83]

Originally Posted by nishsingh

Thanks for this.

But, I am guessing you missed out on the small aspect of the Diesel versions being more expensive than their Petrol counterparts?

The Diesel versions would be Rs 60K to Rs 1 Lakh more than their respective Petrol versions. (Apologies if you have already factored this in somewhere in your calculations.)

You are right. I had missed out on that.

Another pertinent point my wife pointed out: Fortuner used to be 30L in 2014. Now, it’s 45L.

Probably, an equivalent car to the Roxx in 2034 will be upwards of 35L . I suppose in NCR, there is no one right decision. For everywhere else, Diesel it is - unless your running is only 500-600 kms a month.

[Bit]

Originally Posted by manishk83

For everywhere else, Diesel it is - unless your running is only 500-600 kms a month.

What if your running is exactly 500-600 KMS a month?

[kgt.v8]

Originally Posted by manishk83

For NCR Folks (I am one), I did a quick calculation of what it will mean to own the Thar Roxx P-AT vs D-AT.

Here's what happens if annual running is 10,000 kms:
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Sorry for the dumb question as I don't have a lot of financial background.
Is ₹7,62,524 in the calculation indicates sale price of Roxx Diesel-AT after 10 years?
If this is true, then even after replacing old car with new car you still end up saving some money after 15 years as compared to retaining the same petrol car for 15 years. If BS7 does not come into effect by next 10 years, diesel cars may retain some resale value

[manishk83]

Originally Posted by kgt.v8

Is ₹7,62,524 in the calculation indicates sale price of Roxx Diesel-AT after 10 years?

Actually, I have assumed a similarly low resale value of both the Petrol AT (low milesgae hence lesser demand) vs Diesel AT (due to the 10year NGT ban in NCR and hence the need to sell it outside NCR).

The 7.62L is the current net present value of the 15L depreciation that will happen of the new 30L car (that I will have to buy after selling the Diesel at the 10-year mark) between years 10-15. Essentially saying that 15L in 2034 is only worth 7.62L today.

Originally Posted by kgt.v8

If this is true, then even after replacing old car with new car you still end up saving some money after 15 years as compared to retaining the same petrol car for 15 years. If BS7 does not come into effect by next 10 years, diesel cars may retain some resale value

Looks like it. Diesel still seems to make sense in heavy boxy ladder-on-frames in NCR, especially if one drives with a heavy foot.

[volkman10]

Mahindra shares info. on Thar Roxx:

- Thar Roxx production capacity is at 9,500 units/month

- Roxx test rides will open in mid-September & bookings in October 2024


Link:

[sanemate]

Originally Posted by volkman10

Mahindra shares info. on Thar Roxx:

- Thar Roxx production capacity is at 9,500 units/month

- Roxx test rides will open in mid-September & bookings in October 2024


Link:

"Thar 3 & 5 Door are different cater to different customer, do not see any cannibalisation"

Yeah, right. I hope they increase the capacity of Roxx!

[07CR]

I am little confused regarding the low speed ride quality. The official review mentions ride and handling is closer to Scorpio N than the Thar 3D.

If we factor in only the ride quality, how would you rate the low speed ride quality of Thar 5D out of 10? I have extensive experience driving a 17 inch Ecosport S. While the ride was definitely harsh, but still liveable considering the amount of fun the car offered.

So out of 10 how would you rate the low speed ride of Thar 3D, Thar 5D, Ecosport S (17 inch), Scorpio N, Seltos GT Line (18 inch).

Experts/Bhpians who have driven the Thar 5D please chime in.

[Jaggu]

Originally Posted by nishsingh

But why did this advertisement have to be computer generated? .

Just for info, this was one of the product videos used during the launch presentation. Not sure if it was meant as an advertisement.

Originally Posted by 84.monsoon

I would not say this type of use "stresses" the diesel engine. I have a Thar 3D Diesel AT and use it in stop-start traffic every day on my short office commute which is all of 2 km each way. It takes 20 minutes to navigate these 2 kilometers. The diesel is very well suited for this kind of use, as the torque kicks in low in the rev band as compared to most petrols, totally eliminating any turbo lag.

Just to get a better perspective with Roxx I have been daily driving the 3 door Petrol AT in peak BLR traffic and I have similar observation about the Turbo Petrol and AT combo, there is no lag that I have come across and vehicle is just perfect to crawl in traffic. Even the box downshift much better compared to my GV archaic 4 speed which helps me reduce the use of brakes.

Originally Posted by manishk83

For NCR Folks (I am one), I did a quick calculation of what it will mean to own the Thar Roxx P-AT vs D-AT.

For 7 kmpl in Petrol, I would use 10 kmpl on Diesel. Realistically I will use 6 and 9 kmpl for peak traffic, but NCR has much better traffic flow compared to a city like BLR, something I have noticed in the frequent travel to NCR in the last one year.

Originally Posted by sanemate

"Thar 3 & 5 Door are different cater to different customer, do not see any cannibalisation"

I disagree, reality is apart from folks who want to offroad with a shorter wheelbase vehicle, rest of the 3 door potentials now will flock to 5 door 4x2 especially with such a competitive pricing. If you drive both back to back then 3 door would be a No no to almost everyone.

Originally Posted by 07CR

So out of 10 how would you rate the low speed ride of Thar 3D, Thar 5D, Ecosport S (17 inch), Scorpio N, Seltos GT Line (18 inch).

Experts/Bhpians who have driven the Thar 5D please chime in.

Thar 3D 5.5 then Roxx 7
Ecosport 7 then Roxx 6.5
Seltos 8 then Roxx 7

Have I confused you enough? To be honest it is little stiff but it is 100% livable for anyone especially Vs the 3 Door that I currently drive.

[nishsingh]

Originally Posted by Jaggu

I disagree, reality is apart from folks who want to offroad with a shorter wheelbase vehicle, rest of the 3 door potentials now will flock to 5 door 4x2 especially with such a competitive pricing. If you drive both back to back then 3 door would be a No no to almost everyone.

True. For folks who were looking to buy a hard top Thar or any other car, I think the Thar Roxx is a huge temptation. For people like me who want to buy a convertible, the choice is quite tough. But then this is a very tiny portion of potential Thar buyers.

Jaggu, a request - please do test the ADAS (lane keep assist, braking etc) thoroughly under rain conditions whenever you have the Thar Roxx for a long term review.

[iskandariya]

Originally Posted by Bit

Apologies for the noobish question but how are you supposed to get them dark themed? (Considering seat covers being out of question due to seat airbags and ventilated seats).

Leather Tanning colors. Rest roofliner and plastics are easy.