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| ![]() I would like to believe it is a very rare James, though they always had 2 stroke Villiers engines. For a second, I also assume it is a BSA, because of the half complete Gearbox, which looks like a Sturmey Archer. I would still go with the James. |
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![]() This is a 1915 model. ![]() 2nd photo from Wikipedia. Last edited by Julian UK : 19th October 2008 at 22:57. | |
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DKG : It should not be difficult to restore this bike in Hyderabad. | |
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Senior - BHPian ![]() | ![]() Dear DKG, It is comendable how well you have narrated a part of history pertaining to the Nizam and his cars, and a good story in pictures. I would like to add here that the 7th Nizam of Hyderabad, Mir Osman Ali Khan was undoubtly the richest man in the world, In todays worth his fortune would make him a 5th richest, (forbes 2008) with over 250 billion dollars, and Bill Gates the 20th in comparassion. The Nizam had 50 Rolls Royce in his collection, apart from many other cars in his personal garage is a historical fact. DKG, when I was in my 10th grade way back in 1978, waiting for bus back home from school, at Abids, (remember Vasanth Vihar hotel? where a car dealer Ashraf used to have his office) there I saw a silver rolls Royce rolling out, I mean the whole body in solid silver (Chandi) with rivets all over, the unmistakeable RR, flying lady, sweeping mudguards converting into footboards. It was a convertible and in runing condition, there was a driver and co-passenger, who went around the Abids X circle. I will never forget that sight! Heard it was sold and shipped off abroad at a cost of Rs. 1.5 lakhs, which was a huge amount then. Likewise many other cars that belonged to the Nizam, Salarjung, Paigah's and other nobles found their way out of Hyderabad and eventually out of the country. What we have left here now is a less than fraction to what was, thanks to guys like you, who make it possible for others to catch a glimpse of the glory of Hyderabad. Your idea to use the truck to ferry the vehicles from Chirian to Pureni Haveli, was the most brilliant. WELLDONE. |
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The write-up is amazing. I was forced to find the history of Nizam after reading your comments. | |
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That "silver" car (would be buffed aluminium as was the style in those days) you speak of most probably is 71DC a 1926 Rolls Royce Phantom 1 Barker Tourer. This belonged to Habib Jung, son of Wali-ud Dowla. Here's a picture of the car, presently in a museum abroad. http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/923961-post579.html The family of Dara Chenoy owned a RR which was also in buffed aluminium, for which I don't have the details, or when it was sold and went out of Hyderabad. Last edited by DKG : 17th November 2008 at 11:48. | |||
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BHPian ![]() | ![]() Hi DKG, It is really a great job, you have done to prepare Nizam's collection of cars for public viewing. I am looking forward to visit Chowmahala Palace once it is has Vintage Cars section open for public. I also suggest to add beautiful framed pictures of cars displayed. This will give great impression to the viewers if exhibited B/W or colour pictures of the cars in their hey days with the royals travelling in it. I am sure each cars had its own stories and history. Also add how the Nizam's car were maintained in those days, I heard stories that Mr. Taqi Ali, whose job is to start all the Rolls daily to keep in good condition. Thanks & best regards, |
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I will try to get pics of vintage cars of Hyderabad and their owners from sources such as family and friends. The following reference to the canary yellow Silver Ghost should be the baby you moved from Chirian to Pureni Haveli. "Automobile historian John M. Faisal states that in all, before 1947, a total of 900 Rolls-Royce cars were sold to Indian princes. The handbook of the grand 40/50 h.p. Silver Ghost, sent to His Highness the Nizam of Hyderabad in March 1913 by Rolls-Royce, stated that it was a "Semi-State Coach". Actually it was a sort of throne car, painted in a rich canary yellow with gold mountings, upholstered in gold silk brocade with matching curtains and brocade. And this was only one of the Nizam’s 50 Rolls-Royces, many of which still have their original paint. They had barely done one thousand miles when he died in 1967. But it appears that despite his dozens of exotic automobiles (numbering more than 200), the Nizam used only one of his old Buicks to do his circuits of Hyderabad city. The Tribune - Windows - Feature Last edited by Rehaan : 18th November 2008 at 20:19. Reason: font tags removed. | |
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Senior - BHPian ![]() | ![]() I'm delighted to announce that the car display is now open to public. We had a press reveal today. India's heritage has been depleting at an alarming pace. Please encourage as many friends and family as you can to visit heritage sites. Your ticket money helps in sustaining these magnificent museums and monuments Enjoy Will do |
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| ![]() Here is one for you DKG (source: Automotor Journal 1906 via Google Books) ![]() |
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