It is always better to first conduct a situational analysis and then jump to the conclusion, my thoughts and observations can be found in my replies below.
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- The point motorcyclist started turning to right: 19th second
- The point when contact between the vehicles happened: 22nd second
- Difference between the first sign of turning and contact: ~2.5 seconds
- Reaction time available for an alert driver: 2.5 seconds
- No. of people on motorcycle: 2
Other observations:
- The Terrano driver didn't brake at all
- The pillion rider on the motorcycle had given the hand indicator - can be seen in the picture posted below:
Mathematics time!!
Assumptions:
- Camera car speed = 100 kph (I have various videos which prove that dash cam speed looks way higher than actual speed of the vehicle)
- Terrano speed = 120 kph
- Motorcycle speed = 30 kph
- Differential speed between motorcycle and Terrano = 90 kph
Rate of loss of distance between the Terrano and the motorcycle: 25 meter per second
Since the Terrano driver didn't brake at all, so the car has covered a distance of 25*2.5 = 62.5 meters between itself and the motorcycle
Many of the members here may have seen such a situation, IMO if the motorcycle rider is at say 25% fault, then the Terrano driver is at the remaining 75% fault because - the motorcyclist was ignorant; but the Terrano driver too was ignorant but at a way higher speed. While we go fast, we have to be alert; the Terrano driver wasn't in this case.
It is a clear case where two ignorant drivers have banged each other.
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Originally Posted by DRIV3R It was the biker’s fault to barge into the fast lane without checking, but the Terrano did not even stop after the hit. |
Driving is a skill which requires a lot of alertness and anticipation
The Terrano driver has miserably failed at both these important aspects of driving, biker was definitely at fault, but the Terrano guy is at a higher one. If he was alert, then he had enough space and time to try an evasive maneuver - which he didn't at all.
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Originally Posted by shubhodeepdas@g Both are equally at fault of completely ignoring their surroundings and driving. |
100% agree, still I am adamant at my point and repeating it again - the person going faster needs to be more alert - it is a responsibility of responsible people to make sure that idiots don't get killed on the roads - right?
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Originally Posted by venkyhere Mob fury borne out of a need to let out personal frustrations, thrashes the driver of the bigger vehicle, irrespective of whatever happened. |
In 2016 I had this accident where I t-boned a biker - trust me sir, nothing happened; absolutely nothing. In fact the people present at the spot were in my favor after they saw what exactly happened.
Once I was ignorant and got brushed by an SX-4, that time too people came up and warned me about being ignorant and entering the main road directly. Mob fury depends a lot on the way the driver was driving and how exactly the incident has happened.
But the camera car guy could have stopped in this case, he had time, space and a video footage - enough for the situation.
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Originally Posted by Axe77 Terrano for not stopping. |
The motorcyclist made the life threatening decision, at the same time the Terrano driver didn't even try to make his decision wrong. His fault is not that he didn't stop - his fault is that he did not even try to.
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Originally Posted by dark.knight The bikers la-la land is called the lane lines, I hate to repeat this again and again but its true |
Let's talk the case in hand and not go for stereotypes - the biker here was in the left and came to right -
he wasn't riding in the middle of lanes. He made the grievous mistake and paid quite hard for that, what about the driver who could have probably avoided it but decided not to?
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EVERY biker sticks to the lane lines on every road.. and as a result they consider both lanes as their own and assume that their movement should happen freely and without contest either to the left or to the right.
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Please refer the first line of my previous reply!!
[/quote] no matter how many cars they brush against and dent.. nothing happens to the handlebars or the leg-protectors of the bike..[/quote]
There is a simple rule of protecting your car:
Either pull enough to the side that there is no space for the 2 wheeler to pass, or leave enough space that they can pass freely - problem solved! I have been following this since years, especially the second one and it works.
Still, the best part you know about two wheeler riders?
Well, they would have stopped to help these men, unlike the camera carrying car!! Quote:
the two wheeler did NONE of those.
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Please refer the picture posted above.
[quote]two wheeler should've stuck to his lane or should've turned much in advance if he wanted to take a right at that junction.
100% agree.
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Originally Posted by Sheel Something appears wrong with the driver of the Terrano. I didn't spot the brake lamps when the rider was inching close towards the Terrano. |
All he did as an evasive maneuver was steering slightly towards the right, decent chances of something wrong as the video poster himself has stated that the Terrano was being driven rashly and had a few near misses previously too.
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Originally Posted by venkyhere its the car driver's responsibility to not hit them by panic braking |
100% agreeable, I too get a few heart-in-the-mouth moments every month for the same reason.
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Originally Posted by honeybee We car drivers have the same grouse against the truck drivers. They too are just one or two in a truck, but manage to hog all the lanes! |
So you expect trucks to carry passengers? What if the overloaded truck driver expects you to carry some of it in your car? C'mon man, that vehicle isn't meant for this purpose, that's a pure for sure redundant example. Those 18-20 wheelers take so much space but carry only 2 people and a lot of goods - car drivers have no right to have this grouse that a truck carries only one or two people.
Additionally, if I go by what all I have experienced till date - then if I go by the percentage of good drivers of the total (of each kind) on the road, the truckers will probably come on the top; especially the long distance truckers.
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Originally Posted by Divya Sharan If a bad rider takes the steering wheel, he's a bad driver too and vice versa. |
This is indeed a truth - an ignorant and inattentive person will have the personality traits always; no matter what he/she is doing.
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Originally Posted by JediKnight Just imagine every two wheeler replaced by a car. Nothing would move. Your 2200 kg SUV hauling your little ego would not be of much use then. |
Bitter but truth. I have personally developed a habit with time that I let the two wheelers pass from between may car and the car ahead of me; especially when they move from right to left most lane - saves my time later on as well as gives me peace.
I once had this Duster just ahead of me who was trying real hard to block any two wheeler from passing. Since it was a standing jam (for cars), an elderly uncle came to my window, asked me to reverse six inches - which I did and made enough space for people to pass. Then I realized that the duster driver rolled his car back by around 2-3 inches - again same outcome. I went to him and told him that he won't save even a single second of his time by doing such nuisance; but may end up getting scratches on his car and worse, getting beaten like dogs here on the road by a bunch of frustrated bikers and this is for sure that no other car driver will come out to rescue him, he didn't utter a word and silently made the way - around 5 minutes later when the jam opened; only cars were left there to cut into lane of each other and move ahead at snail pace.