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BHPian Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Chennai,Bangalo
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This signboard should be for both the pedestrian and the motorist. The human mind is very strange it seeks compassion when in the wrong and justice when wronged. We Indians use it to the best AFAIK | |
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| ![]() It maybe off-topic, but I think manufacturers should come up cars where the speedometers stop working on the highway/high speeds. Early days, I used to look at the meters and try to maintain a speed. But from the last few years, I just drive at a comfortable speed. Bangalore chennai route sees a speed of 100-110. Six laned but the surface is bumpy at speeds like NICE road. The old 4 lane surface was much smoother. Bangalore Hyderabad highway is the only road, so far, when I drive at a safe and comfortable pace and see 120-130 on the speedo. Smooth surface, minimal traffic and mostly a deserted highway. Single laned roads, it's 70-80 max. A Scorpio can do 120 all day. But, it's ridiculous to push it to do the same speed on a curve. Maybe it's an 80 curve in an otherwise 120 road. But if the subconscious didn't know the speed and the eyes were on the road - judging the curve, reducing speed, the Scorpio would come out safe from the curve. Kids will not have a figure to boast of. Not a bulletproof theory, but works for me. My drives are smoother, safer and I must say faster. Somehow the number of breaks I take has reduced, probably due to lesser stress. I find myself looking more often in the rear view mirrors, to give way, in case I'm the slow one out there. There's no slow lane concept here and overtaking is done even from the shoulder lane. |
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Senior - BHPian | ![]() Driving at 70-80kmph is definitely less stressful than driving at 100+kmph. However today the drivers simply do not adhere to the safety norms. There are many reasons for the same, one of them is the capability of today's cars to pick up speeds, abs and airbags which gives a false sense of protection to the driver encouraging speeding. Also there is no driver training to sensitize them about the safety norms. |
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![]() We need a lot of education on safe driving. Most Indians drive like crazy thinking - it (accident) won't happen to us. | ||
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Senior - BHPian ![]() | ![]() I've seen cattle being grazed on highway medians - fairly common practice in India . The Tumkur-Chitradurga 6 lane highway has fencing on the sides - presumably to prevent cattle from entering onto the carriageway, but there are portions that appear to be intentionally cut to let cattle through. In case of an accident with cattle, it's always the motorist that will be blamed. |
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Kangaroo court of the villagers, however, is a different issue altogether. They will always blame the motorist and extract maximum "compensation". | |
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| ![]() This is a must watch (dont know why they always compare with USA, there are many countries that are better, anyways...enjoy the video) |
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| ![]() Not so much an accident, more like dozens of accidents. And deaths. India's highway of death creates village of widows (BBC News) Quote:
(Yes, it is the BBC... and I have come to consider their coverage of India to be often ignorant, condescending, and even insulting. This article appears to be straightforward and honest) | |
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Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Navi Mumbai
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People tend to jump to conclusions without knowing the whole picture. Few points. 1) The place where the Daytona crashed is notorious for crashes. Many seasoned and well known riders have crashed at the exact same spot, Busa, Fireblade and Daytona in the last few weeks and many crash every season. This is the location ( 19 49 13.01 N 72 56 31.40 E ) and people who have ridden on this road say its due to bad engineering. The daytona guy although was wearing full gear had a fall from the bridge from quite a height which seems to be cause of his demise. 2) The S1000RR crash from Hyd, rider was wearing no gear, shorts, tshirt and chappal. ( as seen in the post crash pictures ). | |
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Thad, sadly, it is about poor people. Most of us are already just a statistic - these people aren't even considered that. |
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Possibility 1 - Wrong way driving. In my drives on this stretch, I have encountered many people coming the wrong way on tractors and bikes. During the day they are easy to spot, but early morning and twilight time it is very difficult to spot them as they often do not have lights on. Possibility 2 - Miscalculation in crossing the road. Many times I have seen people suddenly crossing the highway, assuming they can beat the vehicle and cross. If they misjudge the speed of an approaching vehicle then there can be tragic consequences. But then as I said earlier, there is normally sufficient space between vehicles for crossing safely. So why the rush to get across when one can wait for a few seconds more and have a clear road to cross. Possibility 3 - Overspeeding drivers. Given that this is a very good highway, most cars speed. I believe the speed limit is 120 here. Even when they enter a town or village area, they often do not slow down much. So when someone crosses the road in front of the vehicles, it would be very difficult to stop. As I said, I agree that the Govt. needs to provide proper infrastructure and I am sure if the service roads and underpasses were built, many of the death could have been avoided. But I am still surprised by the fact that so many people have fallen prey to this highway stretch, which has a fantastic visibility of the road ahead and surrounding areas. | |
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More than Bad engineering its simply arrogance to race a bike in common road and not sticking to speed limits.I agree if the road caved in and the daytona crashed because of that and thats bad engineering. Agreed to points that including having specific warning signs, boards and enough preventive measures. As riders taking this route frequenty, they can get together to set up these boards and signs if they really want to help each other out. Quote:
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Senior - BHPian | ![]() If there is a well known badly engineered spot, I would be very cautious around it, just like I would if there is a signboard advising of an accident spot. |
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(even this thread needs a light-hearted thought sometimes!) But more seriously: remember how people think about risks and accidents: it's stuff that happens to other people. | |
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Senior - BHPian ![]() Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Bangalore
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So what was the legal speed on that road and what was the biker doing? So a badly engineered road is no place to show off track skills. In a lot of our highways especially where a road curves they would have put up speed limit boards. My personal experience is that that speed limit has a 30% tolerance level at which you can take that curve. Beyond that you will have to brake sharply and do a lot of steering adjustment to go through. 0-100 in 4 secs is phenomenal. Guys need to be aware that these bikes are truly not made for our conditions and traffic. The safe way to ride these bikes is to enjoy the initial power and not aim for top speed performance and set speed records. You can just get a high by going through from say 20-80kmh in 3/4 secs and then slowing down. | |
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