[mayankk]

Originally Posted by PrasadS

I frankly don't understand, why are we being so strong to judge people. I .

While it's understandable what you do usually, and it's something that millions of folks do millions of times around our country every day, it doesn't qualify your experience with someone who actually followed the rules as Road rage.

Yes, by your recount, some behavior of his can be termed aggro, but the outcome of him not moving to accommodate your wrong side driving is not really wrong on his part, no?

[deetee]

Originally Posted by PrasadS

I frankly don't understand, why are we being so strong to judge people. I wanted understanding and reflection,not who's right or wrong, but i am getting extremely strong blaming replies. Like i said, you won't understand my situation..

Dude, forget about what is right or wrong. If there is someone blocking your path and you are able to grab their attention by short honking - then further communication should be initiated in a warm way. If you can roll down window , gesticulate with hands to request a move over. Otherwise even from inside car, smile and wave hands to request space. No point maintaining cold stares or raising tensions with further honking.

There is no harm to lower ego a bit on roads and request when we need something to get done. If we request with a smile, most likely the other person will oblige and it ends there. Everyone goes on with their day and we will not even remember that 2 minutes later.

As for the way you are driving, even I would drive the same direction if I were to live in that society. But I would have responded as I mentioned above, so far it always worked.

[bblost]

Originally Posted by PrasadS

I chose the lesser evil out of 2 available paths to merge, and only people who live near me would understand, but won't elaborate as this is not the thread for that.

Bad road design is so normalised in our country that driving on the wrong side is deemed acceptable.

I have a similar issue in my apartment.

There was an opening on the road where it connects to the main road.
After a fatal accident it was closed.

Now everyone needs to drive a couple of meters to take a U-Turn.
So a lot of people simply drive in the wrong side.

It saves them maybe 5 minutes.

I tried to have a proper civil conversation, the biker could have yielded, but moral stand escalated it, which is not what this thread dictates.

could have

But does not have to.

The bike rider did NOT put your family at risk.

The only person who did that is....you.

From the picture which you have shared, the point immediately after that old man, where you will turn left to get under that flyover, it is an accident waiting to happen.
A speeding vehicle driven by a distracted driver, who has no idea about "these special conditions" will end up crashing into someone from your apartment complex here.

Please do NOT drive on the wrong side of this road. Its not worth the few minutes it saves you.

[PrasadS]

Originally Posted by deetee

Dude, forget about what is right or wrong. If there is someone blocking your path and you are able to grab their attention by short honking - then further communication should be initiated in a warm way. If you can roll down window , gesticulate with hands to request a move over. Otherwise even from inside car, smile and wave hands to request space. No point maintaining cold stares or raising tensions with further honking.

Thank you sir for understanding. What you mentioned is what exactly i did, that's why this time the Mrs was also mad along with me. Usually I'm at the receiving end from her

[Yieldway17]

Originally Posted by PrasadS

Like i said, you won't understand my situation, but still people are pointing and reiterating what others are saying.

I have a very similar situation like you on a similar NH. Only difference is that instead of an underpass, it's a median opening which is blocked for people coming from the side street to take right, and instead have to take left and take a u-turn on the highway 1km down the road.

99% of the riders and drivers take the right here in-spite of the police sign as there is no enforcement. But I still take left and do a 2-km round trip even when my kid is late to school, and regardless if I'm on my scooter or car.

It's up to us to what we want to do, can't justify that others are doing. I want my kid to learn the right way of doing things is the main reason I do it the proper way.

[PrasadS]

Originally Posted by bblost

From the picture which you have shared, the point immediately after that old man, where you will turn left to get under that flyover, it is an accident waiting to happen.
A speeding vehicle driven by a distracted driver, who has no idea about "these special conditions" will end up crashing into someone from your apartment complex here.

Please do NOT drive on the wrong side of this road. Its not worth the few minutes it saves you.

Its exactly like you said, bad design and lot many factors. Despite Chief ministers visit, even the longer route is not repaired or maintained.

People and children are not even able to cross the road.

70% people take it for shortcut and in even more dangerous way merging horribly and climbing on the road.

30% like me take it as longer alternative is horrible, and we patiently wait aside for a gap, which sometimes help pedestrians to cross same time as us.

Two wrongs don't make a right. This thread is for people to sometimes let it go even if you are completely correct and de-escalate. The entire premise is despite politely asking, not swearing and gesturing i didn't let is escalated to that level which is a new for me, hence the initial post.

Hopefully they close this underpass and work on making the main highway proper. Our other work in progress exit, right below the bridge on the crossroads is another disaster

Originally Posted by mayankk

Yes, by your recount, some behavior of his can be termed aggro, but the outcome of him not moving to accommodate your wrong side driving is not really wrong on his part, no?

Thank you soo much for your understanding. I completely agree the move we make is absolutely wrong,I WAS WRONG, but the alternative is all the more dangerous for us to take. Garages, tankers, petrol pumps, people driving wrong way for 500 meters including huge potholes, the crossroads to Goa is very dangerous.

All i wanted to say was, i tried approaching this very politely, he was hampering ingoing as well as outgoing of vehicles from main gate, and his intention of me making a dangerous pass around him is what trigerred this.

I tried to reason, i didn't swear, i moved out without escalating. I wrote the post to understand and portray that not all offenders do it on purpose and we need to see the actual situation and other persons tone before before reacting.

I apologise if my above posts seem offensive, as since my family was involved and i thought people have not exactly grasped that his actions put us at more risk, and hearing that I'm the cause made me a bit emotional.

No hard feelings towards anyone. Discussing on this forum is my method of becoming more mature and tolerant, which i am still yet to imbibe.

A song i try to learn from:

I'm foolish Maybe I'm blind
Thinking I can see through this
And see what's behind
Got no way to prove it
So maybe I'm lying
But I'm only human after all
I'm only human after all
Don't put your blame on me
Don't put your blame on me
Take a look in the mirror
And what do you see?
Do you see it clearer
Or are you deceived
In what you believe?
'Cause I'm only human after all
You're only human after all
Don't put the blame on me

[Nalin1]

he he he! That is called swalpa adjust maadi driving in India .

Suddenly one out of 1000 does not 'adhere' to this rule, he is looked at like an alien .

[binand]

Originally Posted by PrasadS

I frankly don't understand, why are we being so strong to judge people.

Sir, I live and drive in Bangalore - here, a good 75% of my mindshare when driving is devoted to avoiding killing or maiming people who break rules of the road. So no, I do not have any sympathy for these people.

You can rationalise your specific situation any way you want - it is all NHAI's fault, it is only 10 metres, even people in responsible positions do it, the alternative is in complete disrepair, other local drivers in fact expect it - but the fact remains that you were breaking the rule. Once the first part is established trying to blame the other guy who was minding his own business is rank hypocrisy.

[PrasadS]

Dear all, I would just add 2 points and stop the discussion on this matter from my end.
1: This thread is regarding learning to get out/not getting into sticky situations, after things have happened, and not who's right and wrong in such situations. Emotions play a big part in it from both ends. I wrote the first post casually, as you might get it from my humor in it.

2: I think a lot of you have missed the most important point of my post. The biker didn't stop me from going my way. He purposely wanted me to move in harms way by climbing onto the road opposite oncoming traffic.

I would have appreciated it, if he had stopped me from going completely or advised me to go proper way as any civil person would do. Due to my terrible narrative this main point was lost on some people and i am fine with it. My entire post and subsequent replies were to discuss the humane part and not the technical nitty-gritty of the situation, and i really appreciate the people who have discussed with me on the same.
A good day and A good ride to you!

[bblost]

Originally Posted by PrasadS

2: I think a lot of you have missed the most important point of my post. The biker didn't stop me from going my way. He purposely wanted me to move in harms way by climbing onto the road opposite oncoming traffic.

I will be very blunt.

He did not have to comply with you at all.

You and only you put your family at risk by driving on the wrong side. When blocked, you still do not have to go on the wrong side, but "could have" engaged the reverse gear and come back to your main gate.

[PrasadS]

Originally Posted by bblost

I will be very blunt.

He did not have to comply with you at all.

You and only you put your family at risk by driving on the wrong side. When blocked, you still do not have to go on the wrong side, but "could have" engaged the reverse gear and come back to your main gate.

Sir, there were 2 cars behind me, and to go either way, i had to climb onto the road to even reverse. The biker was right on the path of going in and out, which people didn't catch.

He didn't have to comply, and could have stayed silent, but he urged me to take a dangerous turn around him and continue how i was going.

If this attitude of "I am right, and i don't care even if you die but I'll stand here" is the acceptable moral policing, then it's completely lost on me along with compassion on the road.

[bblost]

When you get to the gap under the flyover, you will get on that road.

So, why is it safer at that point and not where the biker has stopped?

[PrasadS]

Originally Posted by bblost

When you get to the gap under the flyover, you will get on that road.

So, why is it safer at that point and not where the biker has stopped?

Because till that point, not a single tire has touched the actual proper road, and we have a wide space in front of that underpass to turn our car sideways and wait to cross safely like any other crossing.

The bikers intented path for me, would make me climb on the actual road and drive like the dangerous opposite lane drivers like we usually see.

With all due respect to members here, you have not seem the horrendous potholes we have on the other route. Even huge containers sway sidways, and my wife has a phobia with trucks and containers, that's why she doesn't even want to learn how to drive, hence i avoid that route.

People have died on this route and it was in papers. I am in constant touch with traffic PSI's identifying and making them fill potholes on high speed JNPT road. You'll find my post and alert to fellow members regarding this in JNPT road thread.

There is another gate coming up right in front of underpass, and that's a bigger cause of concern as people are blindly going to cross out of the gates.

The kaccha path we take gives proper visibility to us and others all around so you are always aware of the situation.

I respect and applaud all fellow members who are absolutely correct in saying i was wrong and I have agreed on the same too. Just too much personal circumstances here and my thought structure and point of discussion was somwhere else, which i have now understood.

[binand]

Originally Posted by PrasadS

With all due respect to members here, you have not seem the horrendous potholes we have on the other route... hence i avoid that route.

For some, the reason they drive against traffic is that the right route has potholes.

For some others, it is that the right route has an additional signal.

For another group, it is that the right route has an enforcement MVI stationed looking at fitness/permit documentation.

For yet another set, the right route involves a U-turn 1 km ahead, wasting precious minutes.

Everyone has their reason. Everyone thinks their reason is justification enough to violate rules.

[bblost]

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