[anupamtiwari]

Which Udaipur, HP or RJ?
RJ

[ToyotaFan]

Originally Posted by anupamtiwari

What's the best route from Udaipur to Srinagar?

I believe you are talking about Rajasthan. You can take the himmatnagar route if you want to avoid delhi or the normal delhi route onto the grand trunk road.

[fossilalan]

Originally Posted by fossilalan

Hi.
Planning to travel in a Socrpio Automatic, 2WD, one old couple.
Route : Mumbai - Delhi - Amritsar - Srinagar - Kargil - Leh Jispa - Manali - Del - Mumbai.
Starting from 05 Aug 2014.
Any advice/help, for handling the AUTOMATIC Scorpio 2WD, vehicle on this trip, or on any other relavant matter, from you or HVK or Tanveer, or the Team-BHP, would be truly appreciated
<alanrcjee@gmail.com>

Dear Tanveer,

Request.

Please check the plan if ok, for two senior citizens.

Aug 09 Mumbai - Himmatnagar 587 km 8h 44 m @ 67km/h
10 Himmatnagar - Jaipur 596 8 06 73
11 Jaipur - C'Garh 499 7 51 61
REST
13 C'Garh - Amritsar 236 4 09 57
14 Amritsar - Srinagar 452 7 19 62
SIGHTSEEING
18 Srinagar - Kargil 223 4 27 50
19 Kargil - Leh 209 3 58 52
SIGHT SEEING
27 Leh - Jispa 335 9 02 37
28 Jispa - Manali 139 4 38 30
29 REST
30 Manali - C'Garh 292 5 07 57
31 REST
Sep 01 C'Garh - Jaipur 499 7 51 61
02 Jaipur - Ahmedabad 670 9 37 70
03 Ahmedabad - Mumbai 524 8 17 63

Please help us with a feasible sightseeing programme at and around Leh from 21 - 25 Aug.

Thanks in advance.

Fossilalan
alanrcjee@gmail.com

[tsk1979]

Originally Posted by fossilalan

Dear Tanveer,

Request.

Please check the plan if ok, for two senior citizens.

Aug 09 Mumbai - Himmatnagar 587 km 8h 44 m @ 67km/h
10 Himmatnagar - Jaipur 596 8 06 73
11 Jaipur - C'Garh 499 7 51 61
REST
13 C'Garh - Amritsar 236 4 09 57
14 Amritsar - Srinagar 452 7 19 62
SIGHTSEEING
18 Srinagar - Kargil 223 4 27 50
19 Kargil - Leh 209 3 58 52
SIGHT SEEING
27 Leh - Jispa 335 9 02 37
28 Jispa - Manali 139 4 38 30
29 REST
30 Manali - C'Garh 292 5 07 57
31 REST
Sep 01 C'Garh - Jaipur 499 7 51 61
02 Jaipur - Ahmedabad 670 9 37 70
03 Ahmedabad - Mumbai 524 8 17 63

Please help us with a feasible sightseeing programme at and around Leh from 21 - 25 Aug.

Thanks in advance.

Fossilalan
alanrcjee@gmail.com

Your plan is perfect.
As for sight seeing, I will give you a rough idea. You can increase your days or decrease them as per your need.

Leh nubra leh (1 night)
leh pangong leh (1 night or 2 nights)
leh tso moriri tso kar leh (2 nights)

Kargil - Padum - Kargil (2 nights in padum)

[fossilalan]

Originally Posted by tsk1979

Your plan is perfect.
As for sight seeing, I will give you a rough idea. You can increase your days or decrease them as per your need.

Leh nubra leh (1 night)
leh pangong leh (1 night or 2 nights)
leh tso moriri tso kar leh (2 nights)

Kargil - Padum - Kargil (2 nights in padum)

Dear Tanveer....

Thanks. Now I feel good. You are a tremendous support for people like me and a fantastic help.....God Bless you.
One more query. Any problem/precautions for an averagely healthy 75 year old, on this trip......?

fossilalan
alanrcjee@gmail.com

Mod Note : Please avoid typing with excessive dots.........like................this.

Thanks

[parsh]

Originally Posted by fossilalan

Dear Tanveer....

Thanks. Now I feel good. You are a tremendous support for people like me and a fantastic help.....God Bless you.
One more query. Any problem/precautions for an averagely healthy 75 year old, on this trip......?

fossilalan
alanrcjee@gmail.com

If I may put forth from my experience of travelling with an elderly (70 yrs) as a passenger, especially on co-driver seat:
1. Try take less time on normal road drive before entering Ladakh so that you can have more relaxed time for Ladakh drive, if days are short. But take slowly throughout if no worry about days.
2. Take the drive slowly than on normal roads from Sonamarg onwards, more so for body adjustment to the altitude's climate and also due to the continuously twisty roads.
3. Not to panic if at all faced with shortness of breath. Keep training body for long exhale-inhales to accustom to the increasing altitudes as the climb begins later after Srinagar. If possible keep couple of small portable oxygen cylinders handy.
4. Do not stop for long at high passes, especially if weather is too tormenting, like at Penzi La, Darang Durung, Khardung La, Chang La etc. Keep a scarf, monkey-cap ready especially to wrap around the nose to help from chill, blasting winds etc. Snow can be enjoyed at low altitude places en-route instead of the peak points.
5. Avoid dehydration by taking small sips of water every now and then but not excessive water drinking.
6. Care for vertigo, look upto the upper pastures, mountain peaks, rather than ahead on road and down in the valley.

Otherwise, there should be no need to worry, to take any medication etc.

[fossilalan]

Thanks parsh. That's very reassuring. . Will take care to follow your points. Tanks again and God bless.

[Columbus_500]

Hello BHPians!

Tentative plan for Ladakh starting 10th September from Trivandrum. 23 days trip! Car will be my XUV 500 2WD.

Experts, please do suggest if there is any infeasibility in the below plan. Also anyone on these routes during this time frame??

10/09/2014 Day 0 - Trivandrum to Kozhikode
11/09/2014 Day 1 - Kozhikode to Kolhapur (via Mangalore, Ankola, Hubli)
12/09/2014 Day 2 - Kolhapur to Ahmedabad (via Thane, Baroda)
13/09/2014 Day 3 - Ahmedabad to Amritsar (via Kishangarh, Hanumangarh, Abohar)
14/09/2014 Day 4 - Amritsar
15/09/2014 Day 5 - Amritsar to Srinagar (via Pathankot, Jammu)
16/09/2014 Day 6 - Srinagar
17/09/2014 Day 7 - Sringar - Gulmarg - Sonamarg
18/09/2014 Day 8 - Sonamarg to Parkachik
19/09/2014 Day 9 - Parkachik - Rangdum - Pensi La - Kargil
20/09/2014 Day 10 - Kargil - Leh
21/09/2014 Day 11 - Leh
22/09/2014 Day 12 - Leh - Khardung La - Diskit - Hunder - Turtuk
23/09/2014 Day 13 - Turtuk - Agham - Wari La - Pangong Tso
24/09/2014 Day 14 - Pangong Tso - Chushul - Kakasang La - Mahe - Loma - Hanle
25/09/2014 Day 15 - Hanle - Kyun Tso - Nidar - Sumdo - Tso Kiagar - Tso Moriri
26/09/2014 Day 16 - Tso Moriri - Tso Kar - Debring - Jispa
27/09/2014 Day 17 - Jispa - Manali
28/09/2014 Day 18 - Manali - Delhi
29/09/2014 Day 19 - Delhi
30/09/2014 Day 20 - Delhi - Agra - Jhansi
01/10/2014 Day 21 - Jhansi - Nagpur
02/10/2014 Day 22 - Nagpur - Hyderabad - Bangalore
03/10/2014 Day 23 - Bangalore - Kanyakumari - Trivandrum

My main worry is about the Kakasang La & Kyun Tso Routes. Any news on the latest situation with these routes? Does my 2WD XUV have any chance of making it through??

Plan B for these routes is of course going via the Chushul Tsaga La route (Assuming Permits are ok) & Hanle Loma Mahe route.

Plan C if permits don't work out will be to go back to Karu, Upshi, Chumathang and on to Hanle. Hopefully I don't have to go all the way back to Plan C.

[mpksuhas]

Originally Posted by Columbus_500

10/09/2014 Day 0 - Trivandrum to Kozhikode
11/09/2014 Day 1 - Kozhikode to Kolhapur (via Mangalore, Ankola, Hubli)

Any specific reason for taking NH 17 till Mangalore? I guess from Trivandrum to Kolhapur taking Nagarcoil- NH7- Bangalore- NH4 route may be faster.

[Columbus_500]

Originally Posted by mpksuhas

Any specific reason for taking NH 17 till Mangalore? I guess from Trivandrum to Kolhapur taking Nagarcoil- NH7- Bangalore- NH4 route may be faster.

Defintely mpsukhas. The Bangalore route will 100% be faster. However I actually wanted to do this trip in such a way that there is no overlap of routes on my onward & return journey..

[tsk1979]

Originally Posted by Columbus_500

Plan B for these routes is of course going via the Chushul Tsaga La route (Assuming Permits are ok) & Hanle Loma Mahe route.

Plan C if permits don't work out will be to go back to Karu, Upshi, Chumathang and on to Hanle. Hopefully I don't have to go all the way back to Plan C.

Kyun Tso route is very dynamic. It may be passable one day, and be impassable 2 days later. Having a 4WD gives you confidence. A 2WD may or may not do it. You have to take the call when you reach there.

As for kakasang la, the biggest problem is the rocky road. 2WD is fine, but standard HT tires is just asking for trouble.

[Columbus_500]

Originally Posted by tsk1979

Kyun Tso route is very dynamic. It may be passable one day, and be impassable 2 days later. Having a 4WD gives you confidence. A 2WD may or may not do it. You have to take the call when you reach there.

As for kakasang la, the biggest problem is the rocky road. 2WD is fine, but standard HT tires is just asking for trouble.

Thanks a lot for the quick reply. For Kyun Tso, I will take a call once I am in Hanle. As for Kakasang La, has there been no road improvement. Have you heard of any one recently crossing it?

Lastly with regards to the overall plan, any thoughts?

[tsk1979]

Originally Posted by Columbus_500

Thanks a lot for the quick reply. For Kyun Tso, I will take a call once I am in Hanle. As for Kakasang La, has there been no road improvement. Have you heard of any one recently crossing it?

Lastly with regards to the overall plan, any thoughts?

In 2013 also, its the same rocks on road thing. 2WD is okay, but HT tires can get ripped. I doubt they have made the road this year too.

[manasmadaan]

Originally Posted by tsk1979

In 2013 also, its the same rocks on road thing. 2WD is okay, but HT tires can get ripped. I doubt they have made the road this year too.

Dear tanveer,
Following is our tentative itenary. Your comments will be appreciated

Planned date of start is 6th sep. 3 people as of now in XUV

Day1: Amritsar to Srinagar (12-14 hrs)
Day2: Srinagar to Kargil (7-8 hrs)
Day3: Kargil to leh (7-8 hrs)
Day4,5: Leh
Day6: Leh to Nubra valley (10 hrs)
Day7: nubra to Pangong tso (8 hrs)
Day8: Pangong to Tso moriri (10 hrs)
Day9: Tso Moriri to jispa (12 hrs)
Day10: Jispa to Manali (8hrs)
Day11: Manali to Asr (12-14 hrs)

Please comment on the travel time whether it is correct
Also, can the stay at Leh be cut by a day or are 2 days better?

[tsk1979]

Originally Posted by manasmadaan

Dear tanveer,
Following is our tentative itenary. Your comments will be appreciated

Planned date of start is 6th sep. 3 people as of now in XUV

Day1: Amritsar to Srinagar (12-14 hrs)
Day2: Srinagar to Kargil (7-8 hrs)
Day3: Kargil to leh (7-8 hrs)
Day4,5: Leh
Day6: Leh to Nubra valley (10 hrs)
Day7: nubra to Pangong tso (8 hrs)
Day8: Pangong to Tso moriri (10 hrs)
Day9: Tso Moriri to jispa (12 hrs)
Day10: Jispa to Manali (8hrs)
Day11: Manali to Asr (12-14 hrs)

Please comment on the travel time whether it is correct
Also, can the stay at Leh be cut by a day or are 2 days better?

Leh one day is enough.
If you cannot get chushul permits, this buffer day will come in handy.