Shameful Incidents in Mumbai on New Year's eve - Gateway of India NOW JW Marriott

khaadu75 · 5th January 2007, 13:25

Hey, Definitely a shocking incident but why on earth wud someone wanna go to a public place like that for NYs knowing that the cops on duty probably arnt the safest + there are going to be hundreds of perverts there ...

At times we guys should realise what is safe and what is not safe .... We guys may be a very open minded lot but that doesnt mean we take everything at face value . For eg -- I wudnt venture out with a woman all alone into such a crowded place . They dont deserve what happened but maybe they should have anticpated such a scenario and chosen to go someplace else .

UNFORTUNATE NEVER THE LESS .. and todays papers state that the guys arrested confessed that they didnt attempt to molest her but instead were trying to steal her mobile phone -- now is that a lame one or not ??? Public FLOGGING shud be promoted in India , thats the only way to deter such perverts .

Cheers

sreenivass · 5th January 2007, 14:20

Its clear from the statements of Mulayam's spokes person terming NOIDA incident to be a minor one (where 20+ children have been molested and killed) that we are being ruled by a bunch of insensitive people.
Now the COPs may say its the couple entirely to blame, they should not have been there in that place. God, where is the country going ?

amit · 5th January 2007, 19:52

Shamefull and Disgusting this definately was. Why expect cops to help women being molested? A cop was arrested in Marine Drive, Mumbai on thursday for molesting a woman! The gateway incident, then the australian couple, then an American girl was molested in the prince of wales muesuem and the cop molesting case. And it's not just molestation but in every way we, Indians are rude and insensitive.

After every such incident everyone asks if Mumbai is safe for women anymore. IMO, Mumbai stopped being safe when a young girl was raped on August 15 in a moving local train by a totaly sozzled out drunkard while a number of people including women sat and looked on. By the way, what happened to that case? Does anyone even remember that incident? And remember Jaybala Ashar? She was thrown out of a moving train for resisting a thief while other women looked on. If I remember correctly, those other women calmly got down at Churchgate and didn't even bother informing the authorities about a girl being thrown off the train. Another incident was the Marine Drive incident where a cop took a couple to the police station and raped the girl inside. If society can't ensure protection to the other gender then we are failed state. All this 9-10% growth and economy booming means BS! We are a barbaric society, that is the TRUTH! Thank God I was not born a woman

kkr2k2 · 5th January 2007, 20:05

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Originally Posted by amit

Thank God I was not born a woman

sorry amit.
mods please edit the above post, it could be interpreted as gender discrimation.

iraghava · 5th January 2007, 20:17

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Originally Posted by sreenivass

Its clear from the statements of Mulayam's spokes person terming NOIDA incident to be a minor one (where 20+ children have been molested and killed) that we are being ruled by a bunch of insensitive people.

Actually he's Mulayam's brother Shivpal Yadav. He's also the PWD minister of UP.

Samurai · 5th January 2007, 20:23

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Originally Posted by navdeep

well I was not banned but my thread was deleted after few responses.

Your thread was deleted because you tried to blame Mumbai in general for the act of few sex starved maniacs. It could have happened in any of our cities.

navdeep · 5th January 2007, 20:44

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Originally Posted by Samurai

Your thread was deleted because you tried to blame Mumbai in general for the act of few sex starved maniacs. It could have happened in any of our cities.

At last you have responded . I never said "sex starved maniacs" or blamed mumbai. Its just that moderator took it otherwise. Well surf through news channels and we will have an idea about statements being made about mumbai. We should accept the facts if something pathetic and shameless has happened.

Samurai · 5th January 2007, 20:53

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Originally Posted by navdeep

At last you have responded . I never said "sex starved maniacs" or blamed mumbai. Its just that moderator took it otherwise.

Let me jog your memory. You titled the thread as Shameless Mumbai, that was not right.

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Originally Posted by navdeep

Well surf through news channels and we will have an idea about statements being made about mumbai.

News papers and websites makes sensational statements to sell paper and get eye*****. We don't need that here.

navdeep · 5th January 2007, 21:17

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Originally Posted by Samurai

News papers and websites makes sensational statements to sell paper and get eye*****. We don't need that here.

yes few newspapers,websites and news channels do that but not all. There are still few responsible media left. This is incident has been highlighted in international media specially after a foriegner woman went through similiar situation on the same night.

typeOnegative · 7th January 2007, 20:35

All said and done Mumbai is still safe. I just hope those no good idiots are molested by cops in jail.

P.S. Even eyeb-alls is censored? LOL

rjstyles69 · 7th January 2007, 21:22

Sad that such an incident took place. Wish those chaps are treated with absolutely no remorse in the police station

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iamkapilb · 9th January 2007, 01:27

Its not just Mumbai or India, this happens everywhere. I faintly recall that maximum rape cases are in America. The country with population less than India! So, crime is everywhere. Its just that media in India has grown tremendously in past few years and everyone is better informed now!

naveendhyani · 9th January 2007, 10:08

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Originally Posted by iamkapilb

Its not just Mumbai or India, this happens everywhere. I faintly recall that maximum rape cases are in America. The country with population less than India! So, crime is everywhere. Its just that media in India has grown tremendously in past few years and everyone is better informed now!

completely agree with u that crime is everywhere but on the contrary the conviction rate also is much higher there not the 5% mark that we boast off.

coming back to the thread i guess its time everybody starts behaving in a la "gangajal" movie. that was the best example to treat the dirt we have in our society.

prince_pervez · 9th January 2007, 11:23

See, we all here are responsible citizens.
We drive safely and are concerened about others' Safety too.
But just ranting about such incidences ain't enough.
Therez something i read somewhere.
'Incident without action is worse than Ignorance.'
Let us all try to stop an incident by Hand.
If not possible than by word (mouth).
The rest,Cursing, Ranting and raving in our hearts..
we are best at!!
Atleast we can reduce incidences if not eliminate them.
What Says?

Equus · 9th January 2007, 13:34

Lets leave aside the stupidity of that couple aside and ponder a bit on the responsible citizen aspect a bit.

If one of us were nearby, what would you have done???
Remember most folks are drunk and/or on drugs.

5th January 2007, 13:25	#16
khaadu75 BANNED Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: same as the proposed venue for F1 ;-) Posts: 1,146 Thanked: 20 Times View My Garage	Hey, Definitely a shocking incident but why on earth wud someone wanna go to a public place like that for NYs knowing that the cops on duty probably arnt the safest + there are going to be hundreds of perverts there ... At times we guys should realise what is safe and what is not safe .... We guys may be a very open minded lot but that doesnt mean we take everything at face value . For eg -- I wudnt venture out with a woman all alone into such a crowded place . They dont deserve what happened but maybe they should have anticpated such a scenario and chosen to go someplace else . UNFORTUNATE NEVER THE LESS .. and todays papers state that the guys arrested confessed that they didnt attempt to molest her but instead were trying to steal her mobile phone -- now is that a lame one or not ??? Public FLOGGING shud be promoted in India , thats the only way to deter such perverts . Cheers
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5th January 2007, 14:20	#17
sreenivass BHPian Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Bangalore India Posts: 931 Thanked: 44 Times View My Garage	Its clear from the statements of Mulayam's spokes person terming NOIDA incident to be a minor one (where 20+ children have been molested and killed) that we are being ruled by a bunch of insensitive people. Now the COPs may say its the couple entirely to blame, they should not have been there in that place. God, where is the country going ?
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5th January 2007, 19:52	#18
amit Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 3,712 Thanked: 451 Times	Shamefull and Disgusting this definately was. Why expect cops to help women being molested? A cop was arrested in Marine Drive, Mumbai on thursday for molesting a woman! The gateway incident, then the australian couple, then an American girl was molested in the prince of wales muesuem and the cop molesting case. And it's not just molestation but in every way we, Indians are rude and insensitive. After every such incident everyone asks if Mumbai is safe for women anymore. IMO, Mumbai stopped being safe when a young girl was raped on August 15 in a moving local train by a totaly sozzled out drunkard while a number of people including women sat and looked on. By the way, what happened to that case? Does anyone even remember that incident? And remember Jaybala Ashar? She was thrown out of a moving train for resisting a thief while other women looked on. If I remember correctly, those other women calmly got down at Churchgate and didn't even bother informing the authorities about a girl being thrown off the train. Another incident was the Marine Drive incident where a cop took a couple to the police station and raped the girl inside. If society can't ensure protection to the other gender then we are failed state. All this 9-10% growth and economy booming means BS! We are a barbaric society, that is the TRUTH! Thank God I was not born a woman
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7th January 2007, 20:35	#25
typeOnegative Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Vikhroli, Mumbai, India Posts: 1,502 Thanked: 28 Times	All said and done Mumbai is still safe. I just hope those no good idiots are molested by cops in jail. P.S. Even eyeb-alls is censored? LOL
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7th January 2007, 21:22	#26
rjstyles69 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bengalooru.. Posts: 4,343 Thanked: 845 Times View My Garage	Sad that such an incident took place. Wish those chaps are treated with absolutely no remorse in the police station .
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9th January 2007, 01:27	#27
iamkapilb BHPian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Mumbai Posts: 93 Thanked: 9 Times	Its not just Mumbai or India, this happens everywhere. I faintly recall that maximum rape cases are in America. The country with population less than India! So, crime is everywhere. Its just that media in India has grown tremendously in past few years and everyone is better informed now!
	() Thanks

9th January 2007, 11:23	#29
prince_pervez Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Redwood shores, CA, USA Posts: 4,211 Thanked: 53 Times View My Garage	Best Remedy See, we all here are responsible citizens. We drive safely and are concerened about others' Safety too. But just ranting about such incidences ain't enough. Therez something i read somewhere. 'Incident without action is worse than Ignorance.' Let us all try to stop an incident by Hand. If not possible than by word (mouth). The rest,Cursing, Ranting and raving in our hearts.. we are best at!! Atleast we can reduce incidences if not eliminate them. What Says?
	() Thanks

9th January 2007, 13:34	#30
Equus Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,123 Thanked: 424 Times	Lets leave aside the stupidity of that couple aside and ponder a bit on the responsible citizen aspect a bit. If one of us were nearby, what would you have done??? Remember most folks are drunk and/or on drugs.
	() Thanks