Anti Smoking Laws Are Here

Mayavi · 3rd October 2008, 23:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by muralisk

While the intentions are good, but this is a clear intrusion in individual's personal space. When there are specific smoking zones, I see no reason make the entire campus a non-smoking area and asking the employees to get to the roads for a smoke. This is discrimination.

Hey, there are also rules about not having sex in office, not chewing paan or Gutka's etc. If it is a private company, it is not a discrimination.

abhinav.gupta88 · 3rd October 2008, 23:30

The ban is non effective

Incident : Went to a Pan-Shop to fetch a ciggarette pack.
Took out my lighter, lit one .
Policeman came , says : You can't smoke here ( it was a market)

I offered him a ciggarette, He politely took it and asked for the lighter , i gave it to him.

He's Happy , M happy , Ban : NOT EFFECTIVE

phamilyman · 3rd October 2008, 23:38

Mayavi ji,

surely you jest. given your regular sensible posts, I wouldn't bother breaking it down how smoking is a clearly segregated process which neither disturbs the environment/people/cleanliness. Ofc, I see the smell issue though.

MillionSwords · 4th October 2008, 23:14

Once Coke and Pepsi were in the soup,
now its the turn of ITC Ltd, and some offshore cig. companies to do the needful.

Enforcement? - India? - Politics? - Fair game?

Quote:

Originally Posted by abhinav.gupta88

The ban is non effective

Incident : Went to a Pan-Shop to fetch a ciggarette pack.
Took out my lighter, lit one .
Policeman came , says : You can't smoke here ( it was a market)

I offered him a ciggarette, He politely took it and asked for the lighter , i gave it to him.

He's Happy , M happy , Ban : NOT EFFECTIVE

Enforcement - ???? - is a laughter in India

Spitfire · 6th October 2008, 10:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by MillionSwords

Enforcement - ???? - is a laughter in India

Its all about self - discipline. But then we are asking for too much.

Jaggu · 6th October 2008, 12:05

@abhinav: almost similar incident happened in front of our office, was wondering if it was inside our premises, can we collect the fine from the cop also?

Jokes apart, enforcement is not very stern i guess, a VIP convoy was passing and lot of cops were on the road. People were cool and calm and smoking away without much bother.

Bass&Trouble · 6th October 2008, 12:28

I'm ok with the not bothering other people with second hand smoke funda etc. But the way the rules have been laid out don't make full sense to me.

Smoking room with no services? What sense does that make? In any case, why would a non-smoker go into a smoking room to avail of a service that is otherwise available outside??

phamilyman · 6th October 2008, 14:43

I wonder why the mods have mixed up the MNC tobacco free campus with the draconian new regulations - that the MNCs are going one step further and making smoking almost a exercise/huge effort is separate from sh. ramadoss.
That said, here's some lovely wisdom from VA:
The War on Drugs is B* - Violent Acres

i need to dig up on that ole granpa who died recently aged 112, and smoking it up almost right till the end

bblost · 6th October 2008, 15:11

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Originally Posted by phamilyman

i need to dig up on that ole granpa who died recently aged 112, and smoking it up almost right till the end

Smoking and cancer link is not exactly like that.
You can have two brother. Both chain smokers. One may die at 30 of cancer and nothing happens to the other.

While medicine has learnt a lot it still does not know exactly what causes cancer. That is why all warning sound the same that your risk is x times that of a non smoker. But it does not say you will 100% get cancer.

DCEite · 6th October 2008, 15:16

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Originally Posted by bblost

Smoking and cancer link is not exactly like that.
You can have two brother. Both chain smokers. One may die at 30 of cancer and nothing happens to the other.

While medicine has learnt a lot it still does not know exactly what causes cancer. That is why all warning sound the same that your risk is x times that of a non smoker. But it does not say you will 100% get cancer.

I myself know of a 22 year old who had cancer of the mouth (oral carcinoma), due to using Pan Masala. And a smoker who got cancer at 28.

Some people don't get cancer even till 80.

Exceptions are always there, people with very good immune system and who constantly exercise, eat natural foods, live in a relatively pollution free environments, are less prone to get the complications of smoking.

But i have also seen children in the best of health, having active lifestyle, suffer from childhood blood cancers.

The world is not flat.

koolaruny · 6th October 2008, 21:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by abhinav.gupta88

The ban is non effective

Incident : Went to a Pan-Shop to fetch a ciggarette pack.
Took out my lighter, lit one .
Policeman came , says : You can't smoke here ( it was a market)

I offered him a ciggarette, He politely took it and asked for the lighter , i gave it to him.

He's Happy , M happy , Ban : NOT EFFECTIVE

Can't say the same in South India I guess. Was on the road for the past 3 days at Coimbatore, Kerala and came to Chennai only yesterday night.

Wherever we went, my friends got a real shocker when they came to know that cops have been troubling the smokers. This is evident as they tend to misinterpret the rules. Anyways, I see a HUGE decline in the number of smokers....

moralfibre · 6th October 2009, 15:10

It has been one year since this move, any quitters? Has this move benefited in keeping the air clean?

Most restaurants, pubs, bars, etc do not let you smoke anymore. Some let you smoke illegally.

CBlazer · 30th November 2009, 17:30

I see people smoking in public places as if no rule existed at all. A particular instance I came across about a week ago, shocked me.

I was visiting the airport to see my cousin off. It was about 2 AM or so. I was standing close to this Coffee Day outlet. I find so many people around me smoking away. Then I see this couple who were trying to cross the road to get to the airport. I guess they were leaving Bangalore because they were pushing a trolley with their luggage and little child on it. Suddenly they stop at the edge of the road, take out cigarettes, light it up and start puffing away as their little one watches them. Not only were they setting a lousy example for their child, but they were also seriously harming her by standing so close to her while smoking. Rule or no rule, people who love their children wouldn't do something like this. It was so disgusting for me and my wife who stood watching this from a distance.

Wolfheart · 30th November 2009, 18:00

When are they going make an anti-spitting law? There's not an inch of land in this city that has not been annointed with generous gobs of saliva and phlegm.

Apart from painting the town red (pun intended) spitting also leads to spreading of diseases.

kvish · 30th November 2009, 18:33

I think the ban has worked wonders. Ofcourse there are exceptions in implementation. But by and large there is a difference everywhere. Especially in pubs. Now you can go to a pub for a chill beer and come back without your hair and shirt smelling of cigarette smoke

The other clear difference is in Coffee day and my workplace. In all a great move!

I agree with previous post. Pan masala/Ghutka should be next one to go.

3rd October 2008, 23:30	#152
abhinav.gupta88 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Delhi , India Posts: 4,092 Thanked: 325 Times View My Garage	The ban is non effective Incident : Went to a Pan-Shop to fetch a ciggarette pack. Took out my lighter, lit one . Policeman came , says : You can't smoke here ( it was a market) I offered him a ciggarette, He politely took it and asked for the lighter , i gave it to him. He's Happy , M happy , Ban : NOT EFFECTIVE
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3rd October 2008, 23:38	#153
phamilyman Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Gurgaon Posts: 5,968 Thanked: 4,642 Times	Mayavi ji, surely you jest. given your regular sensible posts, I wouldn't bother breaking it down how smoking is a clearly segregated process which neither disturbs the environment/people/cleanliness. Ofc, I see the smell issue though.
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6th October 2008, 12:05	#156
Jaggu Team-BHP Support Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 20,215 Thanked: 15,908 Times	@abhinav: almost similar incident happened in front of our office, was wondering if it was inside our premises, can we collect the fine from the cop also? Jokes apart, enforcement is not very stern i guess, a VIP convoy was passing and lot of cops were on the road. People were cool and calm and smoking away without much bother.
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6th October 2008, 12:28	#157
Bass&Trouble Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Bombay Posts: 2,754 Thanked: 125 Times	I'm ok with the not bothering other people with second hand smoke funda etc. But the way the rules have been laid out don't make full sense to me. Smoking room with no services? What sense does that make? In any case, why would a non-smoker go into a smoking room to avail of a service that is otherwise available outside??
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6th October 2008, 14:43	#158
phamilyman Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Gurgaon Posts: 5,968 Thanked: 4,642 Times	I wonder why the mods have mixed up the MNC tobacco free campus with the draconian new regulations - that the MNCs are going one step further and making smoking almost a exercise/huge effort is separate from sh. ramadoss. That said, here's some lovely wisdom from VA: The War on Drugs is B* - Violent Acres i need to dig up on that ole granpa who died recently aged 112, and smoking it up almost right till the end Last edited by phamilyman : 6th October 2008 at 14:44.
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6th October 2009, 15:10	#162
moralfibre Team-BHP Support Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: MH-12 Posts: 8,451 Thanked: 13,973 Times	It has been one year since this move, any quitters? Has this move benefited in keeping the air clean? Most restaurants, pubs, bars, etc do not let you smoke anymore. Some let you smoke illegally.
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30th November 2009, 17:30	#163
CBlazer BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 596 Thanked: 17 Times	I see people smoking in public places as if no rule existed at all. A particular instance I came across about a week ago, shocked me. I was visiting the airport to see my cousin off. It was about 2 AM or so. I was standing close to this Coffee Day outlet. I find so many people around me smoking away. Then I see this couple who were trying to cross the road to get to the airport. I guess they were leaving Bangalore because they were pushing a trolley with their luggage and little child on it. Suddenly they stop at the edge of the road, take out cigarettes, light it up and start puffing away as their little one watches them. Not only were they setting a lousy example for their child, but they were also seriously harming her by standing so close to her while smoking. Rule or no rule, people who love their children wouldn't do something like this. It was so disgusting for me and my wife who stood watching this from a distance. Last edited by CBlazer : 30th November 2009 at 17:31.
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30th November 2009, 18:00	#164
Wolfheart BHPian Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Bombay Posts: 160 Thanked: 28 Times	When are they going make an anti-spitting law? There's not an inch of land in this city that has not been annointed with generous gobs of saliva and phlegm. Apart from painting the town red (pun intended) spitting also leads to spreading of diseases.
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30th November 2009, 18:33	#165
kvish BHPian Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 627 Thanked: 195 Times	I think the ban has worked wonders. Ofcourse there are exceptions in implementation. But by and large there is a difference everywhere. Especially in pubs. Now you can go to a pub for a chill beer and come back without your hair and shirt smelling of cigarette smoke The other clear difference is in Coffee day and my workplace. In all a great move! I agree with previous post. Pan masala/Ghutka should be next one to go.
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